That is just not true.
I guess the "fingers" is a matter of opinion. To me, that is a lukewarm insult, at best.
Not true from what I understand.
I don't expect AJ to beat Buchanan, Cardenas, or maybe even Bar this year. The deciding factor for giving him a chance is his growth off the mat. I guess he posted a discussion with his current coach talking about the biggest thing he's working on is self control. I guess they try to trigger him every day in practice to see how he handles it. If not him, we need to get a quality 197 with 1-2 years left to give Ludington and Miller time to develope.
I don’t think Ferrari will finish top 5. His competition so far this year is akin to a RS Freshman’s matches. He skipped the Cliff Keen for some reason, which is puzzling.
I wasn't even considering him, if he lost to the above guys. Now, I guess there is the possibility that those losses humble him and make him a better "team player". But, if he were going to just be a mid AA candidate, he would have to do so much more to prove he deserved another chance, that I am just not sure he could reach that "burden of proof" threshold...
That would negate my argument altogether, and I said as much from the beginning. My argument hinged on him winning again. The guy has already proven he has the tools to win it all. Tough competition or not, the guy is incredibly hard to score on and that doesn't just go away. He also has always been damn near 100% at finishing a fully committed attack. Those are, to me anyway, the 2 most important aspects I look for in a wrestler.
but we aren't talking about the worst things any football player has ever done
Lol, did you google what I said and not like the results, or did you just ignore it and spout off again???
Not sure how that jives. The dude is an ABSOLUTIST about mat returns and coffee grinders and truly loves PSU fans....
i'm not the one making hyperbolic claims, you are
when he's on FRL and they talk about how there is 0 chance "wrestler x" beats "wrestler y" or so and so has 0 chance of AAing. Shane goes OFF. he hates the absolutist argument. Any Given Sunday and such
You are the one disagreeing with me, feel free to bring forth tangible data that proves me wrong. Remind me again, how many of my openly admitted trolling categories do you fit into? Just asking for a friend...
Any given Sunday is a good argument. Although, in wrestling, there are some favorites that are about as close to 100% as it can get. But, no, other than that particular belief, I am pretty sure we are very much not alike!
I get that part. I even get why they don't like him and/or don't want him. I just am arguing against those that go apeshit on those that think at least considering a 2xer with 2 chances left are either, "on drugs", "trolling" or altogether not an Iowa fan...Well it’s not absolutism because he had a 2nd chance and blew it. Fans have a right to say “no mas” without being compared to Siths
i'm supposed to bring tangible data that shows "tons of football players" don't do the equivalent of splits and double birds "after every touchdown they score"?
Yes, you are the one painstakingly trying to point out not only how wrong I am, but how bad I am for doing so. I would think it only fair for you to prove it...
I don’t think he’s a troll. I think he’s just a moran.
Thank you for your stellar contribution. Now, go in peace, my son....
Man, go take a walk, take a drive on some gravel, put some meat on the smoker, do something that takes you away from the computer for awhile. You are speaking Mark Twain's words into existence........
I have yet to ever see a football player whip out the Double Bird to opposing fans, let alone the home crowd, after scoring a touchdown. Are some of their celebrations childish and sometime lewd - yes. Heck, basketball players feel the need to do the primal scream after something as simple as a dunk. But flashing The Finger is not part of it.
I am truly sorry if my involvement in this back and forth bothers you. However, I admittedly enjoy it, and being stuck inside the office for most of the day today, it has helped me pass the time!
Go take a walk looking for that red stapler......
I admit, a huge part of the disconnect is probably what you think of the "double bird". Some here obviously are WAAAAAAAY more offended by the finger than I am...
Binder clips, my man. Too much scanning and emailing, staples almost always get removed!
It’s not that you’re not that offended. The fact is it was the last of many transgressions leading up to that point. For several years he had shown glaring lack of judgment in his decisions. He was basically on double secret probation and needed to be courting the Iowa program not the other way around. The juice didn’t appear to be worth the squeeze.
Was it really the last transgression though? AJ was still at Iowa training for 6 months after the Soldier Salute. It was after rumors came out of a separate alleged altercation with a female Hawkeye wrestler when AJ announced he’d be leaving Iowa. I don’t know what happened, maybe that’s just a coincidence or maybe it isn’t.
Well - since it means **** You/Off I can understand why so many find the offense in it. It's even offensive enough you aren't allowed to say it in writing here.
You’re Probly right. My point being the tires don’t really need anymore kicking regardless. I wish it wasn’t the case but the risk doesn’t seem worth the reward.
You are welcome, dad?
Again, that type of gesture, to a somewhat hostile group of people booing you loudly, doesn't swing the needle much for me. It's funny that so many hold that gesture so negatively and yet the throat slit is ok. I mean it literally means killing someone.
nope... i just think you're lonely and need conversation... saying really stupid things does get the conversation goin!!
Better chance he goes from long island to rikers island, then ending up at iowa.
You are entitled to your opinion. In fact, I welcome it. Someone has to be wrong for the other person to be right!
The throat slit gesture is immediately penalized in football and a technical foul assessed in basketball. It is not accepted. And yes, if someone gave me that gesture directly I would react much in the same way I would if I was flipped off.
