Agree with this. I am hopeful Mulvey has taken the next step because Josh O has done nothing to show he could be a regular contributor in rotation.I like to know why some on here think Josh O is a viable option to back up Rebraca? He's not quick, he can't elevate, his free throw shooting is suspect, he's not very crafty around the basket. Other then that he's a non-white player that has the beef. Am I missing anything?
If Riley Mulvey hasn't overtaken him on the depth chart, Iowa will struggle when Filip is on the bench....
But I guess that if Kirk Ferentz can play Spencer Patras extended minutes, I guess Fran can play Ogundele extended minutes. S**T Happens.
Fran saw talent or he never would've offered him. Imo, Josh hasn't devoted himself to his own development. I don't know if Fran had to take Josh back after he entered the portal or not but I'm sure Fran layed it down for Josh when he wanted to return and now I would assume Josh must give nothing but 100%.I like to know why some on here think Josh O is a viable option to back up Rebraca? He's not quick, he can't elevate, his free throw shooting is suspect, he's not very crafty around the basket. Other then that he's a non-white player that has the beef. Am I missing anything?
If Riley Mulvey hasn't overtaken him on the depth chart, Iowa will struggle when Filip is on the bench....
But I guess that if Kirk Ferentz can play Spencer Patras extended minutes, I guess Fran can play Ogundele extended minutes. S**T Happens.
If Mulvey provides us the production that Ryan did, I will be more than happy with that.
Fran saw talent or he never would've offered him. Imo, Josh hasn't devoted himself to his own development. I don't know if Fran had to take Josh back after he entered the portal or not but I'm sure Fran layed it down for Josh when he wanted to return and now I would assume Josh must give nothing but 100%.
Kriener was great his senior year. If Riley can approach that I'd call it a win.I think Riley looks like Ryan Kriener with more upside. Just looked like the college game was too fast for him last year. If that changes, I think he could be really good.
Totally agree, and I don't see why he can't. He couldn't get the minutes he needed to make any real improvement last year because he had way more polished players ahead of him. Just my opinion, but it looks to me, if given steady minutes, he should get used to the speed of the college game and be very productive.Kriener was great his senior year. If Riley can approach that I'd call it a win.
If Mulvey could give 6 and 4 off the bench at 15 - 20 minutes per game that would be solid as a back-up to Rebraca.So, Riley only needs to average 3.6 pts and 1.9 rebounds. Hopefully he can do that.
Kriener, for his career, averaged 5.1 pts & 2.8 rebounds.
3.1 pts & 2.2 reb.......Freshman year
3.6 pts & 1.9 reb.......Soph year
5.7 pts & 3.0 reb......Junior year
7.7 pts & 4.1 reb.......Senior year
Don't disagree, but defense and rebounding for 15 min or so is what we need from Mulvey or JoshO. Any points would be a bonus.If Mulvey could give 6 and 4 off the bench at 15 - 20 minutes per game that would be solid as a back-up to Rebraca.
I agree. I know I heard in an interview with McC hat he said that they re-recruited Josh O when he was in the portal. Can't find it in any articles but I am sure I heard it.I could swear I’ve heard that Fran and Josh had an agreement before Josh tested the portal….. if you listen to the T’d up podcast they’ve had several players on and Fran treats his players like family…. they’re really close knit and he wants what’s best for them
I think if more people listened to some of these player and coach interviews on podcasts it might change their views about them….. lot better than swapping rumors on here….. Josh O is a great interview….. so is Tony Perkins….. they had Sherman Dillard last episode….. we’re lucky to have him….one of the nicest men you’ll ever meet
C'mon Fran. You know Ryan gave us a lot more than those raw numbers would indicate. I repeat, if Mulvey could leave Iowa having given us the same productions as Ryan, I would be satisfied. Not every player needs to put up big numbers to be effective.So, Riley only needs to average 3.6 pts and 1.9 rebounds. Hopefully he can do that.
Kriener, for his career, averaged 5.1 pts & 2.8 rebounds.
3.1 pts & 2.2 reb.......Freshman year
3.6 pts & 1.9 reb.......Soph year
5.7 pts & 3.0 reb......Junior year
7.7 pts & 4.1 reb.......Senior year
I checked the stats on Kriener. His SR year his stats for 40 minutes would be 17 pts and 9 rebounds. ON Fredricks best year, he had something like 2 or 3 rebounds and 14 pts. Garza had 30 pts and 11 rebounds. So I would say Ryan was pretty good his sr year.
Kriener was great his senior year. If Riley can approach that I'd call it a win.
Totally agree, and I don't see why he can't. He couldn't get the minutes he needed to make any real improvement last year because he had way more polished players ahead of him. Just my opinion, but it looks to me, if given steady minutes, he should get used to the speed of the college game and be very productive.
I could swear I’ve heard that Fran and Josh had an agreement before Josh tested the portal….. if you listen to the T’d up podcast they’ve had several players on and Fran treats his players like family…. they’re really close knit and he wants what’s best for them
I think if more people listened to some of these player and coach interviews on podcasts it might change their views about them….. lot better than swapping rumors on here….. Josh O is a great interview….. so is Tony Perkins….. they had Sherman Dillard last episode….. we’re lucky to have him….one of the nicest men you’ll ever meet
C'mon Fran. You know Ryan gave us a lot more than those raw numbers would indicate. I repeat, if Mulvey could leave Iowa having given us the same productions as Ryan, I would be satisfied. Not every player needs to put up big numbers to be effective.
That makes no sense.what was the agreement between Fran and Josh O before he entered the portal? That Fran would take him back, if needed?
I wasn’t present obviously…..I assumed something along those lines and I’m just recanting something I heard but can’t remember where sooo it might not be up to the strict standards of this boardwhat was the agreement between Fran and Josh O before he entered the portal? That Fran would take him back, if
That makes no sense.
I wasn’t present obviously…..I assumed something along those lines and I’m just recanting something I heard but can’t remember where sooo it might not be up to the strict standards of this board
Recanting or recounting?I wasn’t present obviously…..I assumed something along those lines and I’m just recanting something I heard but can’t remember where sooo it might not be up to the strict standards of this board
If true, that seems to be doubling down on the original mistake of recruiting him in the first place. Just my opinion, of course, but I just don't see the scenario where Josh is a consistently productive player. Hope I'm wrong.In fairness, Josh O was "rerecruited" by Fran after we struck out on our other options.
Totally agree. I don't even care if he scores really. If he can rebound and play D, the points are just gravy. I don't have any expectations for Josh O. What he gave us a few games filling in as a big body is what I envision him being - I would love to be wrong but nothing he has shown has really given the impression he can be more than that.Don't disagree, but defense and rebounding for 15 min or so is what we need from Mulvey or JoshO. Any points would be a bonus.
Exactly my view. Mulvey probably should have redshirted.Totally agree. I don't even care if he scores really. If he can rebound and play D, the points are just gravy. I don't have any expectations for Josh O. What he gave us a few games filling in as a big body is what I envision him being - I would love to be wrong but nothing he has shown has really given the impression he can be more than that.
Mulvey looked like a kid that was just out of HS (which he was) and trying to deal with the pace of the game and adjusting to a body that put on a lot of weight/muscle in a short time. My expectations for him are considerably higher than Josh O. Hopefully, he can give solid work as a back-up and build upon that.
I am not sure Josh really wanted to leave as much as he wanted to just see what other opportunities might be out there. Once Iowa didn’t get a portal guy he saw Iowa as his best chance to get on the court. I think it is as simple as that.what was the agreement between Fran and Josh O before he entered the portal? That Fran would take him back, if needed?
Family is the key... that has and will be Iowa's recruiting pitch. Let's not forget that Big Jelly comes from a "basketball family" from the Boston area that Iowa has been recruiting (Dasonte Bowen) and many that we missed on this year. Bringing JO back was an easy calculation especially when we didn't pick up anyone in the portal.If true, that seems to be doubling down on the original mistake of recruiting him in the first place. Just my opinion, of course, but I just don't see the scenario where Josh is a consistently productive player. Hope I'm wrong.
The idea that Fran would say to a player on the roster, at a position of need, that he was ok with a player checking out the competition to see if there was a better fit for him but that he would welcome him back if he couldn't find it. Typing it out it sounds like a really nice thing to do for a kid but college basketball is too competitive a business for to actually have happened.Well, the poster wrote this: I could swear I’ve heard that Fran and Josh had an agreement before Josh tested the portal…..
I then asked this: what was the agreement between Fran and Josh O before he entered the portal? That Fran would take him back, if needed?
What doesn't make sense?
The last video I saw of him, which was about 3 weeks ago(?), he looked much further along in his recovery than I anticipated. In addition, the summer workout picture of the team that was posted, seemed to show that he had muscled up a bit from HS already.
Any new info would be appreciated.
Looks like everyone gets their shot off on Payton 😉First day of practice was yesterday, Monday, Sep 26.
The 2 freshmen, Josh and Dasonte, were phenomenal.
Here are some pics that my wife, Margaret, took.
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He’s the only one playing D!Looks like everyone gets their shot off on Payton 😉
That would be nice, wouldn't it?We should be pretty good with Matt Gatens back at shooting guard.
Yes, it does appear that Dix is much further along then I had anticipated, although still pictures can be deceiving. It's great to be young and just maybe he can contribute at sometime this season, but if he does play, I still see him getting minutes like Josh Ogundele and Riley Mulvey did last year in mop up minutes....That would be nice, wouldn't it?
It appears as if (from such very limited knowledge) that Dix is back and practicing full speed. I am assuming that it will take a while for complete conditioning, timing, shooting touch, etc. to return to 100%......but if by early or mid January he can get there I am excited for the help he could provide....he could provide some quality depth at the 2 or maybe 3....
Damn! Seems like he's almost always injured during the fall.I believe JoshO is hurt at this time.
And yes, he has shown to be quite lazy to this point…as well as lied to the staff about his weight before arriving on campus.