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Anyone done an intervention?

cheeselog8

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My older brother has been struggling off and on with drugs for the past couple years. Same story as many addicts - lost his job(but wasn't his fault according to him), cut ties with every positive influence in his life, phone is always "broke" and never shows up to anything he says he will. He has been convincing my parents that he can get clean on his own but that ship has sailed.

He isn't going to want to go to rehab and I'm expecting any kind of intervention to get pretty ugly but something needs to be done.

Anyone have any experience with doing an intervention for a friend/relative?
 
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My older brother has been struggling off and on with drugs for the past couple years. Same story as many addicts - lost his job(but wasn't his fault according to him), cut ties with every positive influence in his life, phone is always "broke" and never shows up to anything he says he will. He has been convincing my parents that he can get clean on his own but that ship has sailed.

He isn't going to want to go to rehab and I'm expecting any kind of intervention to get pretty ugly but something needs to be done.

Anyone have any experience with doing an intervention for a friend/relative?

How's your brother doing now?
 
@McLovin32 is it true your wife hasn't been wet in 3 years?
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Back to OP @cheeselog8 : interventions are extremely difficult if the person does not want help.

My family has lots of experience in this realm.

My Uncle "Bob" was a lawyer and a severe alcoholic. He drank 1-2 bottles of Smirnoff per day. If he stopped drinking, he would have seizures.

My other Uncle's tried interventions constantly. Bob would always make excuses and deflect. He went to rehab a few times but it didn't take.

In the 1990's, Bob was flying Delta or another commercial flight to Chicago and he had a seizure on the plane and they had to do an emergency landing.

Fast forward a couple years: Bob had another seizure and ended up in a hospital that his brother (my other uncle) was a doctor in.

My Uncle the doctor did some blood tests on Bob and saw that his platelet count was extremely low.

My Uncle told Bob in the exam room: "Bob, if you don't stop drinking...you're going to die."

Bob made some excuses and deflected. A year later, my Mom (no pics) and other Uncle (not the doctor) found Bob dead in his bed with 7 empty Smirnoff bottles in the room. He was 54. At least he went peacefully.

My older brother was an alcoholic and heroin addict for about 20 years. He was homeless for years, got in accidents, robbed a bank and was a menace to society. My family tried interventions and none worked.

In June of 2017, he was walking in the hallway of his apartment building and dropped dead. Another resident that lived nearby found him. He was 41.

Addicts are masters of deception and denial and there's often not much you can do.

You can recommend your brother see his doctor. I'm not an expert. Try to keep your expectations realistic.

Changing people is nearly impossible, at least in my experience.

Good luck and Godspeed!
 
Back to OP @cheeselog8 : interventions are extremely difficult if the person does not want help.

My family has lots of experience in this realm.

My Uncle "Bob" was a lawyer and a severe alcoholic. He drank 1-2 bottles of Smirnoff per day. If he stopped drinking, he would have seizures.

My other Uncle's tried interventions constantly. Bob would always make excuses and deflect. He went to rehab a few times but it didn't take.

In the 1990's, Bob was flying Delta or another commercial flight to Chicago and he had a seizure on the plane and they had to do an emergency landing.

Fast forward a couple years: Bob had another seizure and ended up in a hospital that his brother (my other uncle) was a doctor in.

My Uncle the doctor did some blood tests on Bob and saw that his platelet count was extremely low.

My Uncle told Bob in the exam room: "Bob, if you don't stop drinking...you're going to die."

Bob made some excuses and deflected. A year later, my Mom (no pics) and other Uncle (not the doctor) found Bob dead in his bed with 7 empty Smirnoff bottles in the room. He was 54. At least he went peacefully.

My older brother was an alcoholic and heroin addict for about 20 years. He was homeless for years, got in accidents, robbed a bank and was a menace to society. My family tried interventions and none worked.

In June of 2017, he was walking in the hallway of his apartment building and dropped dead. Another resident that lived nearby found him. He was 41.

Addicts are masters of deception and denial and there's often not much you can do.

You can recommend your brother see his doctor. I'm not an expert. Try to keep your expectations realistic.

Changing people is nearly impossible, at least in my experience.

Good luck and Godspeed!
Maybe you didn’t see it but the original post was from 2016. Not sure if Cheeselog is still around?
 
How's your brother doing now?
Still using last I saw him. Hasn't had a job for 8 plus years. He seems alot more mellowed out now but that could just be the drugs finally wearing on him. I feel for my parents the most. They support him financially and try to convince themselves he'll pull it all back together. Very doubtful at this point.
 
Still using last I saw him. Hasn't had a job for 8 plus years. He seems alot more mellowed out now but that could just be the drugs finally wearing on him. I feel for my parents the most. They support him financially and try to convince themselves he'll pull it all back together. Very doubtful at this point.

Sorry to hear that. How old is he now?

It sounds like your parents are emailing him...that's very common. My parent's enabled my brother as well.
 
My older brother has been struggling off and on with drugs for the past couple years. Same story as many addicts - lost his job(but wasn't his fault according to him), cut ties with every positive influence in his life, phone is always "broke" and never shows up to anything he says he will. He has been convincing my parents that he can get clean on his own but that ship has sailed.

He isn't going to want to go to rehab and I'm expecting any kind of intervention to get pretty ugly but something needs to be done.

Anyone have any experience with doing an intervention for a friend/relative?
I did one on my ex. She said no and served me with divorce papers. Best thing that ever happened to me in hindsight. As far as her, well she is still drinking like a fish. Her life is a complete wreck.

Good luck, I pray he gets the help he needs. Good luck and speak from your heart.
 
You can't change an addict. An intervention is an act of desperate love and you should try it but that will only works if the addict wants it. Which they don't. I do interventions on this board daily with liberals and they just haven't hit rock bottom yet....

Seriously though I have found that this guy explains things in a way that helps those of us that have had addicts in our lives understand the issues they face and what they are dealing with. Rabbi Shaus Taub video below. Hope it helps

 
My MIL in her very early 80s was suffering from frontal lobe dementia from an accident. She looked like Audrey Hepburn. When younger but was still decent looking.

She was befriended by a gang banger who was getting her to give him money. This was in LA. The guy had a criminal history including attempted murder of a judge.

I took a turn of watching her. She was so addicted on black tar heroin and ecstasy it wore me out keeping track of her. She got away and went to the gang bangers house. I had to go in after her

He was high and angry when I showed up. He was threatening me. I didn’t know what to do as I said…. No kidding… Jesus and he collapsed on the floor. I grabbed her and went out the door.

The police did a swat raid a couple days later.

The point is to make sure you know what you are getting into. If I’d known everything I wouldn’t have gone in but I didn’t know the criminal record.
 
Sorry to hear that. How old is he now?

It sounds like your parents are emailing him...that's very common. My parent's enabled my brother as well.
He's 43 now. My parents are definitely enabling it, I'd like to believe I wouldn't do the same but I don't think you can really know until you are in that situation.

Sorry to hear about your brother, Brian.
 
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