Anyone going to PSU?
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Because all in means full ride offer to me. And if we’re offering full rides to top talent and not even making top five of most….
I think that assessment is probably off. I think people write off some instances of them not landing a guy as “they didn’t go all in” forming a sort of tautology.
Other than Spencer Lee, who is a top ranked guy PSU was visibly in on that they didn't get? Especially in the years where they didn't have room for big classes? Straight forward, what impresses me the most about PSU recruiting isn't their big classes, its getting a high end, top 10 guy at a need weight that slots in right when they need them, in the OFF YEARS.
I am sure they don't land every recruit they go after, but it sure seems like they get the guy they want and need right when they want and need them...
Guessing Kyle Snyder wasn’t an afterthought, but the subject certainly isn’t 100% settled with either POV.
Again, show me some big names they actively pursued that they didn't get besides Spencer. You will have a very hard time. I have followed recruiting quite ardently since Cael has been at PSU. Mind you, I have NEVER said anything nefarious in regards to their recruiting. What I AM saying is PSU wrestling is simply the best recruiting institution I have ever seen. There are a lot of reasons why they have been the clear #1 team for a little over a decade, but by FAR the biggest reason is recruiting.
As far as Snyder goes, I remember his being a tOSU lean quite early on. At the time, tOSU's RTC was top notch with JD Bergman, Dlagnev and Rosselli was a really big sell at the time for Kyle. I don't even remember PSU really being brought up in his recruiting process.
If you want seats that are close you're going to have to pony up the money or roll the dice on finding a scalper that just wants to get rid of tickets at the entrance. There isn't a bad seat or view in the BJC, just distance from the mat. Seat Geek had the best prices that I could find.
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I've sat in the tippy top row before. I'd suggest bringing binoculars or you may find yourself watching the JumboTron.
Yeah I agree the distance can be a thing. I've heard of venues having seats with partially blocked views and such and thats what I was referring to as bad seats.
If we can get the ones that have verballed this year and add a guy like Ferrari next year it will mean alot. I see him as a 74 in 2 years and we will need a guy there. Hell, we need one this year.
I don't think the BJC has any of these. It's not like where tOSU football puts the visiting team's travellers.
The mat will be centered under the scoreboard. Having to look through people in the aisles or getting a stiff neck in the corners might be the main concern.
Some seats on the ends might get residual smoke plumes from production devices, but those seem to dissipate fast enough.
Hey, you are the one that chose to quote a small part of entire sentence that was fully complimentary. Let alone a rather lengthy post that was just as complimentary. Keep being you!
Thread is about who might be going to PSU. I just found the "by FAR the biggest" likely to sidetrack the thread to your standard talking point. You don't have to introduce it to every thread.
So I quoted the relevant part to my reply. I read your whole post.
It's ok. I understand it's your opinion. I just think there's really no measure of either the relative magnitude or bigness of what I see as looking something from only one perspective when it is an integral piece of a whole, whose sum is greater than its parts. Recruiting is one way to look at it. Creating an environment that high quality kids seek out is another way.
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Valiant effort. B+ for effort, solid D for execution. Furthering my point, keep being you!
I met some very nice Iowa fans in Detroit last year. It’s nice when you realize that, when you get away from these messageboards, most wrestling fans are just passionate about the sport (and their team, of course) and enjoy being part of a niche community that shares a common interest.
Looking forward to meeting a few more on January 27th!
Looking forward to meeting a few more on January 27th!
I believe Wick not going to PSU had much to do about college credits not transferring in?
If they had, Wick was in.
You don't remember PSU being brought up in his recruiting process. Where you a part of that? Snyder is on record talking about his recuiting process. PSU was a place he wanted to go(along with OHIO ST.), but Cael was trying to convince him that he was a 285.
Maybe. Just answered the question. Didn't think that there were any implied reasons that precluded not getting someone who Cael wanted.
I hope Block can hold 141 otherwise that's a big hole moving forward.
I think Chittum is a real deal recruit that can be in the running for high AA out of the gate. I'm not sure what weight is his best. He is on the short side at 157 though.
Keuter obviously has talent but the whole football thing clouds his impact. I was kind of hoping he would be a lighter 285 this year but maybe he wants to cut down again for a world team opportunity.
Block is growing on me. I see him developing some areas he was weaker at like on the mat. I like he has good length for the weight too. He is pretty athletic as well.
Jesuroga is always going to seem a bit smallish for the weight. Obviously recent concerns about him not wrestling now are troubling.
Gabe is going to have a quickness advantage vs a lot of 184 pounders and strength won't be an issue. Him being able to eat more and get bigger has been good for him.
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Every Iowa wrestling fan I've ever came across I got along with great...Some good times at Nationals last year and a few years back in Ohio...Awesome wrestling fans with great knowledge and fun loving people.
Transfers are an entirely different animal and not something I was even considering. Things like credits transferring are something even the greatest recruiter on the planet has no control over.
With that said, even if I give you Snyder and Bouzakis, both of whom I only really heard tOSU smoke from very early on in their recruiting process, that is STILL a very short list of guys PSU has really gone after(which I still think the level of pursuit is debateable in their cases).
Again, this isn't a negative and I don't understand why anyone would take it as such. The PSU staff identifies who they need and goes out and gets them on the most consistent basis I have ever seen. Mind you, Sanderson was recruiting just as well nationally when he was at ISU. The only difference is they didn't have the resources that PSU has and he was always going to be second in his own back yard(which was rather thin at the time). Moving to PSU to be the clear number one in the best wrestling backyard in the country(PA) simply made an already large blue whale become the biggest blue whale in recorded wrestling history!
Good points, I don't see great recruiting as a negative and it seems you're both saying about the same thing except he's maybe emphasizing the total package a little more than Sanderson?
No question the program has built themselves into the premiere destination in so many ways. But, that wasn't always the case. It has taken a ton of time, effort and money to build the RTC into what it is now.
So, yeah, NOW the total package along with NIL makes them a recruiting tool like no other. Still, the recruiting was basically this good since Cael was at ISU and pretty much right from the beginning when he landed at PSU.
Admittedly, Cael and Co. probably don't have to work nearly as hard now as they did to reach these recruits. Their incredible success and all the assetts they have in their favor basically sell themselves.
Make no mistake, they are the best overall program I have ever seen. Gable's run was beyond impressive, but it wasn't done with today's social media and fully focused elite 1 sport high school athletes. Gable was able to take kids with the "right attitude" and coach them up better than anyone else possibly could. Now, he would actually have to recruit the best kids and cater more to them. Would he have been able to do that? Winner's find ways to win and I have no doubt he would have found the way.
It's just a different time and I just don't think this level of dominance that PSU has shown could have been done by any other school in the recent era. So many things needed to align perfectly between the coaching staff, recruiting, funding, athletic department support, facilities, RTC and location for this type of domination to occur.
If Iowa actually truly and consistently catches PSU, without PSU doing something to hurt themselves, it will take so many moving parts coming together at the same time and they would STILL need to work perfectly together for a significant amount of time before everything pays long lasting dividends...
Sounds good. Different poster's here seem to use the word "recruit" differently. Sometimes I forget to whom I'm replying.
would seem to indicate that
might not be recruiting, since Cael didn't win a National Championship at ISU, Iowa's little brother.
Glad to read recognition of the
Yes, there's
Here's to Iowa, and all other schools, improving their total package.
A lot goes into making the perfect filet, but without the quality meat itself, it IS NOT happening. To me, PSU's recruiting is the chef picking out the freshest USDA Prime pieces of meat for PSU on a very consistent basis. All the other things they do as a team to tenderize, season and cook it are still key components to success, but that piece of meat still is inarguably the biggest factor.
P.S. I know how much you like analogies, so I figured I could use one that is even better than a tungsten sword!
When you guys come to HV stop in at the Deli on college Ave or Champs downtown, I hang at both, awesome food and wear your gear, drinks on me..let's talk wrestling and good times!
Um…… The Deli closed over a year ago.
Doesn't mean you can't hang out there with a bottle of wine and raw hot dog.
