Has the media started asking the right questions to the right people yet or is this officially dead?
Slaying idiots? Do you even realize nothing you said in your response applies to said "idiots". I see NO ONE saying they aren't 100% personally responsible. No one is even hinting at it being any one but the athletes faults.@GoHawks1996 Is slaying idiots in this thread. Nailing it.
Personal responsibility is a thing of the past, sadly. Also, two things can be true: the punishment doesn’t fit the crime yet this is still no fault but the athletes. They knew the rule and didn’t think they’d get caught. But they did.
You don't lose a season of eligibility for getting caught drinking in high school. If you are a multiple time offender you probably will, but not for the first time.This isn't "real life" though. This is college athletics. They are held to a higher standard than your average Joe.
When you have the privilege of being a D1 athlete, you agree to a different set of rules than the average college student/person. One of those rules is not gambling.
Just like drinking in highschool is pretty much a non-issue for non-athletes, but if you get caught as an athlete you're losing a season of eligibility.
Legendary sign offFor those that didn't actually read more than the original tweet from Nelson, it is worth a few seconds to check it out. No matter what my thoughts on the whole situation are, I got a good chuckle from Nelson's sign off.
Has the media started asking the right questions to the right people yet or is this officially dead?
Quite frankly it's absurd that you think the people making these arguments are "idiots".
Bust a deal, spin the wheel.Yet the punishments are still egregious.
Even Barter Town would have almost certainly given them a lighter penalty. Hell, I am pretty sure Cass would choose a "2 men enter, 1 man leaves" against Master Blaster(although Max only had to technically fight Blaster) before what he has to stomach now...Bust a deal, spin the wheel.
Multiple people have now said this. I must be mistaken here.You don't lose a season of eligibility for getting caught drinking in high school. If you are a multiple time offender you probably will, but not for the first time.
That is different. As the Head Coach, you can change the rules and standards quite a bit. Our baseball coach had a no spring break or no baseball. Needless to say, I went on spring break my senior year...Multiple people have now said this. I must be mistaken here.
Maybe I always just considered it a full season suspension because our baseball coach made it clear that if you missed half the season or whatever for a code then you might as well not come back.
Nice rebuttal. You ignore all of the points made and reply to that one sentence with a weak gif.
I expect better from you. I think you're generally a reasonable and respectable poster, but you're behaving like an "idiot" now. 😉
That third sentence is exactly what a lot of kids do these days. I've seen it multiple times, and it's not exactly new. When my oldest son was in HS in the '90s, a State Champion wrestler got busted for drinking and fighting a week before the State tournament and was allowed to take his suspension at the beginning of track season so it didn't interfere with State or with baseball, which was his second main sportThis is roughly what our school follows. I have also seen kids game the system. Get caught for the second time and have a half season suspension, so they go out for a sport they don't normally do and serve the suspension in that sport. Kinda defeats the purpose and the lesson, but what do I know.
does the NCAA ever suspend guys for drinking and driving? usually that's a team punishment, not an NCAA punishment.Slaying idiots? Do you even realize nothing you said in your response applies to said "idiots". I see NO ONE saying they aren't 100% personally responsible. No one is even hinting at it being any one but the athletes faults.
The keyboard warriors that act like a judge with an iron fist on social media are beyond laughable. You knew the rule,so too bad for you, is such a weak minded argument. It isn't nearly that absolute. If we were arguing there should be no punishment, then you would actually be correct. However, I don't think one person has. The simple, inarguable truth is, losing an entire season, or for all of the Iowa guys, the rest of their careers, is a comically ridiculous punishment for what they did.
Take Vodka's example: Which is worse, driving drunk into a Taco Bell or gambling a few dollars on an Women's Basketball Game? One ended several guys' careers, while the other was a several mid-season matches suspension. I would be willing to bet nearly all people asked that don't know anything about either situation and were removed from college athletics ,would guess the opposite in both situations...would that make them idiots as well?
the easiest answer to your question at the end is "because the schools don't want them to"What if the punishment were a life sentence or the death penalty? Take it to the extreme as a thought exercise and then you can understand the outrage. Things aren't as simple as "the penalty was clearly defined, they should have known better".
Yes, the wrestlers ****ed up and broke the rule. Yes, the penalty is still egregious and deserves ridicule despite the fact that it was a clearly defined rule and the athletes were wrong to violate it.
And if the NCAA is going to harshly rule against the athletes in defense of fair competition, then why are they not diligently drug testing for PEDs or diligently checking for other compliance violations beyond relying solely on schools to self report. It's a sham.
I noticed he was an Iowa State alumnus.Working for Penn State??