ESPN digs into coaching hot seat ranking for Kirk Ferentz, Iowa football
Is Kirk Ferentz’s coaching seat even slightly warm?
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Article on KF and retiring/hot seat
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Fair article.
But I wonder - is making the HOF and breaking the B1G winning record that important to him? Would he have retired if he already had those tucked away? Most here on the board think so, but I'm not convinced.
But I wonder - is making the HOF and breaking the B1G winning record that important to him? Would he have retired if he already had those tucked away? Most here on the board think so, but I'm not convinced.
Kirk loves Coaching, I really do not think HOF or records are the primary driving forces. He knows at His age You only get to step away once and like most proud Men He wants it on His terms . I do want to see Him loosen the reigns on Lester as He has Phil , it looks to Me like it is trending that way .
Article doesn't say much. He's obviously going to pass Woody, but it would be one of the most improbable seasons in Hawkeye history for him to pull off 9 wins next year, and a 6-win season (which seems to be the consensus among fans) would put him so far behind the .600 mark that it would essentially be unreachable (he'd have to win 10 games in '26 to get back over the top).
I think that eventually he will make the HOF as some exception made due to his coaching days at Maine and rebuilding years in '99-'00 weighing too heavily on the .600 rule.
I certainly wouldn't consider him on the "hot seat." Iowa would have to have a "crash and burn"-type season in order for BG to try pushing him out the door.
I think that eventually he will make the HOF as some exception made due to his coaching days at Maine and rebuilding years in '99-'00 weighing too heavily on the .600 rule.
I certainly wouldn't consider him on the "hot seat." Iowa would have to have a "crash and burn"-type season in order for BG to try pushing him out the door.
They just said hot seat to draw clicks. They know that’s what fans want, but it probably doesn’t matter
There is zero reason Kirk should be here by 2029 unless we've either made it to the CFP or won a B10 title by then.
Of course it is. You can be humble about it but there's no way any coach at that level doesn't want to be the best they can. How do you effectively push your players to be the best if you're not doing it yourself?
Or if you're right and he really doesn't care then thats a huge problem by itself. It means he actually is completely happy to spend half his career sometimes wining the weakest division in major conference football and getting subsequently getting crushed in the ensuing championship and/or bowl game every time.
Content is so dumb these days. Agree this “article” literally says nothing other than facts and figures. Kirk is 70. He’ll have to go 9-4 next season to make 60% winning percentage. End.
If they wave the .600 rule so be it. I could see that. (very unlikely he makes the .600 threshhold) But your numbers are your numbers. You can't simply throw out the years you don't like.
I don't think an 8-4 regular season with a bowl win is all that far fetched.....
Albany - W
@ISU - L
UMass - W
@ Rutgers - W
Indiana - W
@Wisc - W
PSU - L
Minn - W
Oregon - L
@USC - L
MSU - W
@Neb - W
Final - 8-4
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I think he was hoping Brian would succeed at offensive coordinator and then take over for him. He would then move to a supportive role working with the line.
It's a lot easier on paper than on the field. There is little evidence to suggest Iowa will beat Rutgers let alone Indiana and Wisconsin and Minnesota and Michigan State. And it took a miracle to beat Nebraska this season. You could make a case for 4-8 easier than you could for 8-4 next season, IMHO.
BTW: Records are skewed by who you played and how many games you played. Frank Lauterbur was a horrible Iowa football coach, but he wouldn't have gone 0-11 in 1973 if he'd played Albany and UMass instead of four top 20 teams, including a nonconference schedule of #18 UCLA, #6 Penn State, and Arizona. Can you imagine KF facing that kind of schedule every year? Nope, that ain't exactly Albany and UMass or UNI and Arkansas State.
And for much of college football history teams played 8 games. Nile Kinnick's 1939 Hawkeyes went 6-1-1. Eventually the season has expanded to nine, ten, eleven, and now 12 games plus a 13th bowl game for many and up to 16 games for the national finalists--twice as many as Kinnick played in one season. So I would suggest taking your records in context and with the appropriate grain of salt.
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Certainly possible. Then you're looking at at bowl game against a quality opponent (all of which are "Ls" on the above).
As BTOSU points out, it's hard to believe at least one of Rutgers/Indiana/Wisc/Minn/MSU/Neb won't be a "L".
I don't think you can make that case.
From a betting perspective, I know it's early, but I'm going to guess that every game I have as a W, they will be favored in, maybe with the exception of @Neb.
And it didn't take a miracle to beat Nebraska. It merely took Nebraska turning into Nebraska, like they have in pretty much every match up with the exception of '22.
Kirk wears the pants. Those that think Beth has any power are mistaken. Coaching is all he has it seems. He could have retired with the Brian mess and all walked away proud. Instead he let his own kid get humiliated.
Who would throw their own kid under the bus to save their own job in their 60’s when they already have generational wealth? That’s weird, odd, and sad.
The Brian fiasco heat came from the President of the University and possible the BoR
Who would throw their own kid under the bus to save their own job in their 60’s when they already have generational wealth? That’s weird, odd, and sad.
The Brian fiasco heat came from the President of the University and possible the BoR
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I agree that one of them will probably be an "L", but then I'm also going to guess that one of the L's turns into a W. For example, we haven't lost to ISU at Jack Trice since 2011, but I do have it as an L. Could very easily flip to a W given our history there over the last 15 years.
The weird thing to me there is they could win or lose all those games. Just how Iowa plays. Indiana loses a ton . We usually own Minnesota . Wisconsin isn’t any good either. Hard to say which way it’ll go
Short of another debacle like the Brian thing or a couple of losing seasons, Kirk isn't going away until he wants to. So yeah, he could be here until 2029. This is not a McCaffery situation.
ISU has also beat us on our home field 4 out of 6 times in that same time frame. History means zip. The team on the field is all that counts.
Didn’t say I agree with it; I just think that that’s what will happen. Kinda like the veterans committee electing baseball players to the Hall of Fame for sentimental reasons for players who probably haven’t quite met achievement threshold.
I think this is fair, but why the “L” beside ISU? I really don’t pay attention to them so I don’t know who they return besides Brecht. If recent history tells us anything then it’s a “W”!
Gotcha. I agree that he'll probably get a pass. Hayden got in with a .560 win % (.613 @ Iowa) so the .600 thing is clearly a "guideline" more than a rule.
Exactly. So projecting Iowa to have their 1st losing record in 13 years based on this season's results is not a given either.
In today's cfb landscape projecting rosters is tricky let alone wins/losses for a season 9 months in advance.
Who was picking IU last year in Jan?
Every single team on our schedule will be different next year.
Hawks can beat Oregon and PSU in Kinnick at nite.
Or lose to RU in NJ.
That's why they play the games.
Above any position of need, the O-line needs improvement the most. I don't see the offense getting much better if we don't have at least 2 NFL level guys on the line. Do that and 9 wins is doable and a whole lot more realistic than any other senarios.
Being the best you can be and hanging around to break a record are two different things IMO.
If he really would prefer to retire but is staying just to break Woody's record and get into the HOF, then that's a huge problem.
KF's seat is as warm as my lawn furniture in Iowa today
If Kinnick is full and he's making bowl games, there is zero pressure on the old captain
If Kinnick is full and he's making bowl games, there is zero pressure on the old captain
Nah. No amount of 7, 8, 9 and even 10 win seasons strung together doing just enough to tease the fanbase is gonna save Kirk this time.
He's got 2 years at most to prove his ship isn't sunk next to the Titanic, and we already know one of those years (next year) is gonna be a vomit-inducing sh**show. So basically if 2026 isn't significantly better than 2024, then Ferentz can get f***ed.
Beth may not pull the trigger then, but if she just let's Kirk hang around racking up hollow/empty calorie "winning" seasons by the time 2029 rolls around then she will have failed as our athletic director.
ISU could also be a W. I assume Noel and Higgins are both gone to the NFL? Which account for like 2/3 of Rocco’s passing yards and tds.
Since Maine was FCS it may provide the loophole needed to get him over the top.
It doesn't have much further to go.........
Iowa usually overperforms when expectations are low and underperforms when expectations are high. They were high this past year. They're low next year. I'm hoping that the pattern holds next year.
Yes and No. Recent performance and current personnel (most of whom are back) are more relevant than what happened 5 years ago. Nobody picked IU because nobody had a clue what to expect. What we do know is it was a byproduct of a new coach and a huge remake of the roster....neither of which Iowa will have this Fall.
Indeed you never know, that's why they play the games. I think you'll see the Vegas over/under come in a bit lower this Fall.
I'm going to guess the O/U for wins will come in at 6.5. With over probably being around +125 and under being -110.
None, she can prove me wrong by actually doing something with football and Fran.
"Ferentz will receive a monthly supplemental payment of $458,333.33 through the end of his contract".
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