Article on KF and retiring/hot seat

[cidhawkeye]

Gotcha. I agree that he'll probably get a pass. Hayden got in with a .560 win % (.613 @ Iowa) so the .600 thing is clearly a "guideline" more than a rule.

The .600 thing is now a rule. There wasn't an established winning % required when JHF got in.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

I don't think an 8-4 regular season with a bowl win is all that far fetched.....

Albany - W
@ISU - L
UMass - W
@ Rutgers - W
Indiana - W
@Wisc - W
PSU - L
Minn - W
Oregon - L
@USC - L
MSU - W
@Neb - W

Final - 8-4

Lower your fent usage.

 

[jonesy5960]

I don't think an 8-4 regular season with a bowl win is all that far fetched.....

Albany - W
@ISU - L
UMass - W
@ Rutgers - W
Indiana - W
@Wisc - W
PSU - L
Minn - W
Oregon - L
@USC - L
MSU - W
@Neb - W

Final - 8-4

I'll bet the over under for next season ends up around 5.5 so this would definitely be a stretch goal.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

I'll bet the over under for next season ends up around 5.5 so this would definitely be a stretch goal.

6 wins at best. Planning on 4

 

[jonesy5960]

6 wins at best. Planning on 4

Maybe. Hard to tell with all of the pieces moving around.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

The win percentage is b.s. for head coaches to get into HOF. It is apples and oranges comparing KF and Mike Leach to Saban and Spurrier.

 

[BonzoFury]

The .600 thing is now a rule. There wasn't an established winning % required when JHF got in.

Did not know that

 

[BonzoFury]

The win percentage is b.s. for head coaches to get into HOF. It is apples and oranges comparing KF and Mike Leach to Saban and Spurrier.

Perhaps but it is the Hall of Fame. Not supposed to be for everybody. That said you’d think KFz would warrant consideration

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Perhaps but it is the Hall of Fame. Not supposed to be for everybody. That said you’d think KFz would warrant consideration

Agreed. But the 60% threshold is an arbitrary number.

 

[coorsoriginal02]

ISU could also be a W. I assume Noel and Higgins are both gone to the NFL? Which account for like 2/3 of Rocco’s passing yards and tds.

Do they seem to struggle replacing departed offensive skill-position players? No, no they do not.

 

[kwik44]

👌🙂

 

[Bow.to.the.Narrative]

Of course it is. You can be humble about it but there's no way any coach at that level doesn't want to be the best they can. How do you effectively push your players to be the best if you're not doing it yourself?

Or if you're right and he really doesn't care then thats a huge problem by itself. It means he actually is completely happy to spend half his career sometimes wining the weakest division in major conference football and getting subsequently getting crushed in the ensuing championship and/or bowl game every time.

Promoting his unqualified boy doesn't exactly indicate "wanting to be the best".

 

[iowamike21]

Since Maine was FCS it may provide the loophole needed to get him over the top.

The loophole is playing two teams like Albany and UMass every year, and playing for years in the weak Big Ten West. Not exactly the schedules Iowa coaches faced historically, including Hayden Fry.

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

"Ferentz will receive a monthly supplemental payment of $458,333.33 through the end of his contract".
Would you retire?

I love my job and career, but I am retiring the day that I can afford it. For KF to still be working at his age tells me a lot more about how much he loves his job and hates everything else about life than it does about the money.

 

[MilleGinja]

Do they seem to struggle replacing departed offensive skill-position players? No, no they do not.

I doubt they’ve ever had to replace two top 10 receivers in the same year? Past success does not guarantee future success. But it’s a fair point, and with experienced QB and proven success at putting skill positions in the NFL, it’s likely they get some solid transfers.

Regardless, it’s still probably a toss-up.

 

[swihawk]

9-4 ain’t happening. Will Kirks career end with a sad downhill chase for the 60%?

Maybe 10 wins with an actual QB. NFL talent.

 

[BonzoFury]

Maybe 10 wins with an actual QB. NFL talent.

2025 just got better. How much...we'll see.

 

[BonzoFury]

The loophole is playing two teams like Albany and UMass every year, and playing for years in the weak Big Ten West. Not exactly the schedules Iowa coaches faced historically, including Hayden Fry.

You're half right. The non-cons are weak. Can't control how good the other B1G teams are.

 

[coorsoriginal02]

I doubt they’ve ever had to replace two top 10 receivers in the same year? Past success does not guarantee future success. But it’s a fair point, and with experienced QB and proven success at putting skill positions in the NFL, it’s likely they get some solid transfers.

Regardless, it’s still probably a toss-up.

There are no guarantees, obviously. But if ISU having very good receivers in 2024 was an outlier, your original post would make more sense.

Chances are they'll have more-than-capable WRs again in '25. That's all I'm sayin'

 

[HawkAlum2002]

Gotcha. I agree that he'll probably get a pass. Hayden got in with a .560 win % (.613 @ Iowa) so the .600 thing is clearly a "guideline" more than a rule.

They changed the rule around 2004, Hayden got in in 2003. Think how ridiculous that standard really is that Hayden Fry wouldn't be in considering how great of a coach he was over thirty year span. Hopefully when Mike Leach comes up in another year just short they will actually re-evaluate it instead of just blanket saying "no" that they indicated last year. He's a Hall of Famer by pretty much every standard except that .600 percentage. You are basically punishing coaches that didn't go to blueblood programs from the get go.

 

[HWKEYZ23]

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I think he was hoping Brian would succeed at offensive coordinator and then take over for him. He would then move to a supportive role working with the line.

Zero doubt that was the plan…..it failed miserably

 

[BonzoFury]

They changed the rule around 2004, Hayden got in in 2003. Think how ridiculous that standard really is that Hayden Fry wouldn't be in considering how great of a coach he was over thirty year span. Hopefully when Mike Leach comes up in another year just short they will actually re-evaluate it instead of just blanket saying "no" that they indicated last year. He's a Hall of Famer by pretty much every standard except that .600 percentage. You are basically punishing coaches that didn't go to blueblood programs from the get go.

Fry and Leach are both Hall of Fame football coaches. It would be a crime if Leach doesn't get in.

 

[redghost1974]

They changed the rule around 2004, Hayden got in in 2003. Think how ridiculous that standard really is that Hayden Fry wouldn't be in considering how great of a coach he was over thirty year span. Hopefully when Mike Leach comes up in another year just short they will actually re-evaluate it instead of just blanket saying "no" that they indicated last year. He's a Hall of Famer by pretty much every standard except that .600 percentage. You are basically punishing coaches that didn't go to blueblood programs from the get go.

The Pirate is a HOF coach and sound bite.

 

[swihawk]

I'll bet the over under for next season ends up around 5.5 so this would definitely be a stretch goal.

Ten wins.