As far as I am concerned, Fran should have never been let go…

[RagnarLothbrok]

…if the university isn’t willing to pony up the dough to build a successful basketball program.

Yes, I know, I know. I am on record for wanting Fran gone. That really hasn’t changed. But the whole premise behind wanting Fran gone is with the expectation the university is going to invest more financial resources in basketball. That includes finding more creative ways to generate better NIL funding. Since that doesn’t seem to be the case, what was the point of letting Fran go? No one is going to do more with less the way Fran has. It’s just not going to happen.

Beth has egg on her face over this one. Presumably, she had at least an inkling to start the year that she might fire Fran. That should have given her ample time to figure out the financial side of things and how much NIL the university could commit to in order to attract a coach capable of doing better. That clearly doesn’t seem to be the case. In short, Beth should have known better before firing Fran.

Thus, my expectation is for the next coach to do a little worse than Fran. That’s what Iowa is signing up for by not committing to more financial support of the basketball program. So, get ready for the next coach to continue the tradition of pounding the pavement outside of Panera Bread and the Pottery Barn for the next crop of Hawkeyes. And while the defense and rebounding might improve, the offense is going to look Todd Lickliter-esque on steroids.

Iowa just parted ways with the best coach they’re going to get under these circumstances. Just stupid.

Might as well shut the program down.

 

[Hawktheworld]

You are entitled to all the inside information and you certainly have it... react and bitch

 

[Randall Stanhope]

You are welcome to your opinion.

I strongly disagree with it.

 

[TampaHawkfan]

I think maybe we should wait to see who the next coach is and how he does before declaring the entire thing a disaster.

 

[fivecardstud14]

OP just here to make us laugh?

 

[Birky]

We might be hiring a guy who just laid waste to the Valley with a bunch of DII players, and nobody can do more with less than Fran?

I think we should at least find out who the replacement is. I’m guessing if the next coach starts winning, the NIL will probably be there.

We don’t even know who the next coach is, and we’re ready to bulldoze the program.

 

[BrewHawk]

…if the university isn’t willing to pony up the dough to build a successful basketball program.

Yes, I know, I know. I am on record for wanting Fran gone. That really hasn’t changed. But the whole premise behind wanting Fran gone is with the expectation the university is going to invest more financial resources in basketball. That includes finding more creative ways to generate better NIL funding. Since that doesn’t seem to be the case, what was the point of letting Fran go? No one is going to do more with less the way Fran has. It’s just not going to happen.

Beth has egg on her face over this one. Presumably, she had at least an inkling to start the year that she might fire Fran. That should have given her ample time to figure out the financial side of things and how much NIL the university could commit to in order to attract a coach capable of doing better. That clearly doesn’t seem to be the case. In short, Beth should have known better before firing Fran.

Thus, my expectation is for the next coach to do a little worse than Fran. That’s what Iowa is signing up for by not committing to more financial support of the basketball program. So, get ready for the next coach to continue the tradition of pounding the pavement outside of Panera Bread and the Pottery Barn for the next crop of Hawkeyes. And while the defense and rebounding might improve, the offense is going to look Todd Lickliter-esque on steroids.

Iowa just parted ways with the best coach they’re going to get under these circumstances. Just stupid.

Might as well shut the program down.

Fran wouldn't have done much better with better talent.

 

[LarryMullenJr.]

and I thought I could jump to conclusions too fast at times….

 

[Slim45]

…if the university isn’t willing to pony up the dough to build a successful basketball program.

Yes, I know, I know. I am on record for wanting Fran gone. That really hasn’t changed. But the whole premise behind wanting Fran gone is with the expectation the university is going to invest more financial resources in basketball. That includes finding more creative ways to generate better NIL funding. Since that doesn’t seem to be the case, what was the point of letting Fran go? No one is going to do more with less the way Fran has. It’s just not going to happen.

Beth has egg on her face over this one. Presumably, she had at least an inkling to start the year that she might fire Fran. That should have given her ample time to figure out the financial side of things and how much NIL the university could commit to in order to attract a coach capable of doing better. That clearly doesn’t seem to be the case. In short, Beth should have known better before firing Fran.

Thus, my expectation is for the next coach to do a little worse than Fran. That’s what Iowa is signing up for by not committing to more financial support of the basketball program. So, get ready for the next coach to continue the tradition of pounding the pavement outside of Panera Bread and the Pottery Barn for the next crop of Hawkeyes. And while the defense and rebounding might improve, the offense is going to look Todd Lickliter-esque on steroids.

Iowa just parted ways with the best coach they’re going to get under these circumstances. Just stupid.

Might as well shut the program down.

So because we didn’t outbid indiana, who apparently has some serious resources, we’re mailing it in and not ponying up the necessary resources? That’s just a seriously stupid take.

 

[Tunadog]

…if the university isn’t willing to pony up the dough to build a successful basketball program.

Yes, I know, I know. I am on record for wanting Fran gone. That really hasn’t changed. But the whole premise behind wanting Fran gone is with the expectation the university is going to invest more financial resources in basketball. That includes finding more creative ways to generate better NIL funding. Since that doesn’t seem to be the case, what was the point of letting Fran go? No one is going to do more with less the way Fran has. It’s just not going to happen.

Beth has egg on her face over this one. Presumably, she had at least an inkling to start the year that she might fire Fran. That should have given her ample time to figure out the financial side of things and how much NIL the university could commit to in order to attract a coach capable of doing better. That clearly doesn’t seem to be the case. In short, Beth should have known better before firing Fran.

Thus, my expectation is for the next coach to do a little worse than Fran. That’s what Iowa is signing up for by not committing to more financial support of the basketball program. So, get ready for the next coach to continue the tradition of pounding the pavement outside of Panera Bread and the Pottery Barn for the next crop of Hawkeyes. And while the defense and rebounding might improve, the offense is going to look Todd Lickliter-esque on steroids.

Iowa just parted ways with the best coach they’re going to get under these circumstances. Just stupid.

Might as well shut the program down.

 

[SI_NYC]

…if the university isn’t willing to pony up the dough to build a successful basketball program.

Yes, I know, I know. I am on record for wanting Fran gone. That really hasn’t changed. But the whole premise behind wanting Fran gone is with the expectation the university is going to invest more financial resources in basketball. That includes finding more creative ways to generate better NIL funding. Since that doesn’t seem to be the case, what was the point of letting Fran go? No one is going to do more with less the way Fran has. It’s just not going to happen.

Beth has egg on her face over this one. Presumably, she had at least an inkling to start the year that she might fire Fran. That should have given her ample time to figure out the financial side of things and how much NIL the university could commit to in order to attract a coach capable of doing better. That clearly doesn’t seem to be the case. In short, Beth should have known better before firing Fran.

Thus, my expectation is for the next coach to do a little worse than Fran. That’s what Iowa is signing up for by not committing to more financial support of the basketball program. So, get ready for the next coach to continue the tradition of pounding the pavement outside of Panera Bread and the Pottery Barn for the next crop of Hawkeyes. And while the defense and rebounding might improve, the offense is going to look Todd Lickliter-esque on steroids.

Iowa just parted ways with the best coach they’re going to get under these circumstances. Just stupid.

Might as well shut the program down.

BM very well could be the coach but won't be announced until after Drake is out of the Tourney.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I knew this thread would fire some people up. 🫣😝😂

I am halfway serious, though. The basketball program needs more financial support.

 

[the24fan]

…if the university isn’t willing to pony up the dough to build a successful basketball program.

Yes, I know, I know. I am on record for wanting Fran gone. That really hasn’t changed. But the whole premise behind wanting Fran gone is with the expectation the university is going to invest more financial resources in basketball. That includes finding more creative ways to generate better NIL funding. Since that doesn’t seem to be the case, what was the point of letting Fran go? No one is going to do more with less the way Fran has. It’s just not going to happen.

Beth has egg on her face over this one. Presumably, she had at least an inkling to start the year that she might fire Fran. That should have given her ample time to figure out the financial side of things and how much NIL the university could commit to in order to attract a coach capable of doing better. That clearly doesn’t seem to be the case. In short, Beth should have known better before firing Fran.

Thus, my expectation is for the next coach to do a little worse than Fran. That’s what Iowa is signing up for by not committing to more financial support of the basketball program. So, get ready for the next coach to continue the tradition of pounding the pavement outside of Panera Bread and the Pottery Barn for the next crop of Hawkeyes. And while the defense and rebounding might improve, the offense is going to look Todd Lickliter-esque on steroids.

Iowa just parted ways with the best coach they’re going to get under these circumstances. Just stupid.

Might as well shut the program down.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

OP just here to make us laugh?

 

[ICWestfan]

I knew this thread would fire some people up. 🫣😝😂

I am halfway serious, though. The basketball program needs more financial support.

Of course the program needs more money. That doesn't make BG wrong for firing Fran. Maybe DD was the next coach but IU swept in got him instead. Fran dug his own grave, no fans in the seats, no $$, no interaction, and suspect coaching approach that didn't work.

I'll wait to see what happens with the hire. She may hit a homerun.

 

[HawkLogic]

Freeman ;was gone either way. The team was 7-13 in B1G. Each of the last 4 years have been worse in B1G than the prior year. The trend wasn't our friend,. Attendance was awful with Fran. NIL donations apparently awful. Raising money is part of the modern job description for a Coach. He also is older guy with a lame duck contract. Are you suggesting Beth should have renewed his contract?

I will wait for everything to shake this spring, and see how next year goes before I come to conclusion the AD made a mistake. I suspect NIL will improve with a new coach vs what it would have been with Fran. Whether next year is worse than 7-13 in B1G, that is quite possible. Everybody gets a mulligan than 1st year---even Fran got that mulligan.

 

[intrepodor]

We might be hiring a guy who just laid waste to the Valley with a bunch of DII players, and nobody can do more with less than Fran?

I think we should at least find out who the replacement is. I’m guessing if the next coach starts winning, the NIL will probably be there.

We don’t even know who the next coach is, and we’re ready to bulldoze the program.

Sad

 

[Underscore2]

If she doesn’t get McCollum it will feel like poor planning at the very least. DD I’m willing to give a pass because Indiana is a bloated pathetic sack, and won’t be surprised if that blows up in their faces like usual. It would take an imaginative sneaky good hire and hope she knows the candidates better then we do.

 

[Ladell-hawk]

So because we didn’t outbid indiana, who apparently has some serious resources, we’re mailing it in and not ponying up the necessary resources? That’s just a seriously stupid take.

You don’t fire a coach unless you are ready to make a real commitment to upgrade the program and that includes nil. It doesn’t seem like the Hawks are ready to make a commitment to elevate the program.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I am hoping for the best.

If Ben McCollum is hired, I will be a little more optimistic. But I don’t think it’s a slam dunk. I’m sure he’ll get other offers.

 

[onionman1]

…if the university isn’t willing to pony up the dough to build a successful basketball program.

Yes, I know, I know. I am on record for wanting Fran gone. That really hasn’t changed. But the whole premise behind wanting Fran gone is with the expectation the university is going to invest more financial resources in basketball. That includes finding more creative ways to generate better NIL funding. Since that doesn’t seem to be the case, what was the point of letting Fran go? No one is going to do more with less the way Fran has. It’s just not going to happen.

Beth has egg on her face over this one. Presumably, she had at least an inkling to start the year that she might fire Fran. That should have given her ample time to figure out the financial side of things and how much NIL the university could commit to in order to attract a coach capable of doing better. That clearly doesn’t seem to be the case. In short, Beth should have known better before firing Fran.

Thus, my expectation is for the next coach to do a little worse than Fran. That’s what Iowa is signing up for by not committing to more financial support of the basketball program. So, get ready for the next coach to continue the tradition of pounding the pavement outside of Panera Bread and the Pottery Barn for the next crop of Hawkeyes. And while the defense and rebounding might improve, the offense is going to look Todd Lickliter-esque on steroids.

Iowa just parted ways with the best coach they’re going to get under these circumstances. Just stupid.

Might as well shut the program down.

Agreed, and I also was on board with the firing. Tom Izzo's words regarding Iowa and Fran may end up ringing true: "They don't have the resources here. Be careful what you wish for."

 

[BrewHawk]

Agreed, and I also was on board with the firing. Tom Izzo's words regarding Iowa and Fran may end up ringing true: "They don't have the resources here. Be careful what you wish for."

Well, it sucked with Fran anyway, so no harm in trying.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Agreed, and I also was on board with the firing. Tom Izzo's words regarding Iowa and Fran may end up ringing true: "They don't have the resources here. Be careful what you wish for."

It’s a tough situation.

Before NIL, firing Fran would have been a no-brainer.

 

[cm8124]

…if the university isn’t willing to pony up the dough to build a successful basketball program.

Yes, I know, I know. I am on record for wanting Fran gone. That really hasn’t changed. But the whole premise behind wanting Fran gone is with the expectation the university is going to invest more financial resources in basketball. That includes finding more creative ways to generate better NIL funding. Since that doesn’t seem to be the case, what was the point of letting Fran go? No one is going to do more with less the way Fran has. It’s just not going to happen.

Beth has egg on her face over this one. Presumably, she had at least an inkling to start the year that she might fire Fran. That should have given her ample time to figure out the financial side of things and how much NIL the university could commit to in order to attract a coach capable of doing better. That clearly doesn’t seem to be the case. In short, Beth should have known better before firing Fran.

Thus, my expectation is for the next coach to do a little worse than Fran. That’s what Iowa is signing up for by not committing to more financial support of the basketball program. So, get ready for the next coach to continue the tradition of pounding the pavement outside of Panera Bread and the Pottery Barn for the next crop of Hawkeyes. And while the defense and rebounding might improve, the offense is going to look Todd Lickliter-esque on steroids.

Iowa just parted ways with the best coach they’re going to get under these circumstances. Just stupid.

Might as well shut the program down.

 

[Win5002]

…if the university isn’t willing to pony up the dough to build a successful basketball program.

Yes, I know, I know. I am on record for wanting Fran gone. That really hasn’t changed. But the whole premise behind wanting Fran gone is with the expectation the university is going to invest more financial resources in basketball. That includes finding more creative ways to generate better NIL funding. Since that doesn’t seem to be the case, what was the point of letting Fran go? No one is going to do more with less the way Fran has. It’s just not going to happen.

Beth has egg on her face over this one. Presumably, she had at least an inkling to start the year that she might fire Fran. That should have given her ample time to figure out the financial side of things and how much NIL the university could commit to in order to attract a coach capable of doing better. That clearly doesn’t seem to be the case. In short, Beth should have known better before firing Fran.

Thus, my expectation is for the next coach to do a little worse than Fran. That’s what Iowa is signing up for by not committing to more financial support of the basketball program. So, get ready for the next coach to continue the tradition of pounding the pavement outside of Panera Bread and the Pottery Barn for the next crop of Hawkeyes. And while the defense and rebounding might improve, the offense is going to look Todd Lickliter-esque on steroids.

Iowa just parted ways with the best coach they’re going to get under these circumstances. Just stupid.

Might as well shut the program down.

The reason there might not be $$$ is Fran's piss poor performance and the fact they let this go on so long. He should have been let go around year 4 of his tenure.

 

[SDHawkDoc]

The idea that the new hire had to be DeVries or now has to be McCollum is ridiculous and laughable.
Money is important to roster construction. But it's not the only part of building a winning team. Maybe not even the most important part. The hoosiers had a relatively expensive roster this past year as far as individual parts. They were a bad team. I'll bet kansas laid out quite a bit of dough for their mediocre team.
Hopefully the new coach hire generates interest to the extent that significantly more dollars for payroll follow.

 

[the24fan]

navigating NIL crap is quickly going to become a nightmare. Imagine the locker room discord with players rolling in the bucks and those working their a$$ off for very little.
It's going to cause massive chemistry issues.
Whole thing has become a joke.

 

[fecal particulate]

You don’t fire a coach unless you are ready to make a real commitment to upgrade the program and that includes nil. It doesn’t seem like the Hawks are ready to make a commitment to elevate the program.

You can't spark interest in the program or generate more NIL with Fran still coaching. Firing Fran had to be done for MBB to improve.

 

[Slim45]

You don’t fire a coach unless you are ready to make a real commitment to upgrade the program and that includes nil. It doesn’t seem like the Hawks are ready to make a commitment to elevate the program.

And you know this is the case just because Devries went to Indiana? Again, this thread is stupid.

 

[TampaHawkfan]

I knew this thread would fire some people up. 🫣😝😂

I am halfway serious, though. The basketball program needs more financial support.

Oh I agree totally, it just didn't look like that support was ever going to be there as long as Fran stayed.

Will it improve with the next coach? Maybe, maybe not. If it does, good call on making the change. If not, nothing much lost, I guess, but that might be a bad omen that support for the men's hoops program will never be there. I just don't think bringing back Fran was going to solve anything.

 

[herkhatescy2]

BM very well could be the coach but won't be announced until after Drake is out of the Tourney.

So, do we root for Missouri?

 

[paednoch23]

I knew this thread would fire some people up. 🫣😝😂

I am halfway serious, though. The basketball program needs more financial support.

What is the current financial situation compared to our peers.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

What is the current financial situation compared to our peers.

I thought I read somewhere Iowa is 15/18 in the Big Ten, but not 💯 on that.

 

[icwesthawk]

That includes finding more creative ways to generate better NIL funding.

Please enlighten us on more creative ways that have not been discussed by the Iowa AD. You would have screamed bloody murder if Fran was retained and you and CurtisBlowFish clearly have never been in a Panera Bread before.

 

[cmhawks99]

…if the university isn’t willing to pony up the dough to build a successful basketball program.

Yes, I know, I know. I am on record for wanting Fran gone. That really hasn’t changed. But the whole premise behind wanting Fran gone is with the expectation the university is going to invest more financial resources in basketball. That includes finding more creative ways to generate better NIL funding. Since that doesn’t seem to be the case, what was the point of letting Fran go? No one is going to do more with less the way Fran has. It’s just not going to happen.

Beth has egg on her face over this one. Presumably, she had at least an inkling to start the year that she might fire Fran. That should have given her ample time to figure out the financial side of things and how much NIL the university could commit to in order to attract a coach capable of doing better. That clearly doesn’t seem to be the case. In short, Beth should have known better before firing Fran.

Thus, my expectation is for the next coach to do a little worse than Fran. That’s what Iowa is signing up for by not committing to more financial support of the basketball program. So, get ready for the next coach to continue the tradition of pounding the pavement outside of Panera Bread and the Pottery Barn for the next crop of Hawkeyes. And while the defense and rebounding might improve, the offense is going to look Todd Lickliter-esque on steroids.

Iowa just parted ways with the best coach they’re going to get under these circumstances. Just stupid.

Might as well shut the program down.

This IS AWESOME!!!!!! as I have predicted over and over and over and over again on multiple message boards, including others, not related to Iowa…. It’s only a matter of time before certain fans aren’t happy.

I would imagine everybody’s hero Beth G is slowly sliding down into the abyss right this second….Hell I wouldn’t be ant to coach Iowa and I’ve been a fan since I was 10 years old

 

[cmhawks99]

Please enlighten us on more creative ways that have not been discussed by the Iowa AD. You would have screamed bloody murder if Fran was retained and you and CurtisBlowFish clearly have never been in a Panera Bread before.

He’s the king of the douche canoes, and one of the primary reasons I stay off of this and the football board. Along with about 25 others

 

[cmhawks99]

So, do we root for Missouri?

I’m pulling for Drake regardless

 

[WaterTower]

I think maybe we should wait to see who the next coach is and how he does before declaring the entire thing a disaster.

That's no fun though

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

…if the university isn’t willing to pony up the dough to build a successful basketball program.

Yes, I know, I know. I am on record for wanting Fran gone. That really hasn’t changed. But the whole premise behind wanting Fran gone is with the expectation the university is going to invest more financial resources in basketball. That includes finding more creative ways to generate better NIL funding. Since that doesn’t seem to be the case, what was the point of letting Fran go? No one is going to do more with less the way Fran has. It’s just not going to happen.

Beth has egg on her face over this one. Presumably, she had at least an inkling to start the year that she might fire Fran. That should have given her ample time to figure out the financial side of things and how much NIL the university could commit to in order to attract a coach capable of doing better. That clearly doesn’t seem to be the case. In short, Beth should have known better before firing Fran.

Thus, my expectation is for the next coach to do a little worse than Fran. That’s what Iowa is signing up for by not committing to more financial support of the basketball program. So, get ready for the next coach to continue the tradition of pounding the pavement outside of Panera Bread and the Pottery Barn for the next crop of Hawkeyes. And while the defense and rebounding might improve, the offense is going to look Todd Lickliter-esque on steroids.

Iowa just parted ways with the best coach they’re going to get under these circumstances. Just stupid.

Might as well shut the program down.

I appreciate your sarcasm......

 

[ozzie8]

Yes he should’ve been let go