At the end of the day, the B1G had to evaluate where Nebraska was at as a program
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Not to be a putz, but just "getting back to 2002-04" would basically put Iowa at Michigan or Ohio State's level. It's damn-near impossible to just automatically finish in the Top 10 every year if your school is not one of the blue bloods. Nebraska, Notre Dame and Texas, schools with far more history and tradition and recruiting cache, have not been able to do that.
Note that I'm not saying Iowa shouldn't aim for being a perennial Top 10 team, but if it doesn't happen it doesn't mean that the coaches suck or the program is mediocre.
Be careful what you wish for. If it comforts you to believe that the Big 10 is promoting Nebraska over Iowa or Wisconsin or other schools, more power to you.
I think the league would really like for Nebraska to be really good. There's been nothing holding back Nebraska from being really good again, other than Nebraska's own failings.
I don't disagree for the most part. I think 10-3 is pretty attainable each year. Is it going to happen every year? No, but I also think that it can be better than having medicore seasons for 4-5 years and then having 1 banner year. Just looking for a little more consistency. I don't disagree with you that not having a Top 10 team every year is a disappointment as sometimes seasons just go to the bad.
I would be content if Iowa continues on their pace of finishing in the top 10 on average every 3 years over the last 15
I will also be perfectly satisfied if Nebraska continues on their pace of not finishing in the top 10 one single time in a 15 year time period.
I would say both of those are pretty likely to occur
And I agree with you on Nebraska, but think it should be Iowa or Wisconsin that play the Buckeyes. The whole match-up draw appears to be eyeball driven.
Penn State won the Big Ten last year and is strongly favored this year and everyone thinks they are on the rise big time. I think that says a lot about why Iowa was chosen and Nebraska was dumped
With all due respect to Nebraska's rich tradition, they aren't going to be winning any Conference titles in the Big Ten until they get over their own superiority complex. The Big Ten is getting it right when they match up Iowa and Wisconsin with the final game because more likely than not that will be for the West Title. After all Nebraska, you're not in the Big 8 anymore.
I'm sure when it come times for the BIG10 to expand Nebraska will be heavily promoting Kansas so they can have a Black Friday match-up they might be competitive in.
Yeah your right about Kansas, I doubt that Nebby would want Iowa State in the BIG now since that game would now be considered a toss up.
That's a good question and "I'm betting Iowa" is exactly what a homerish Iowa fan might say in this matter. However, I did some intensive research for you, accessed some very secretive and hard to find records and came up with:
Overall record since Nebraska joins B1G:
Iowa 46-35 .57
Nebraska 53-26 .67
So, actually, Nebraska has a substantially better record since joining the B1G.
Looking at bowl games gives us additional perspective:
Iowa 0-5, scoring margin against opponents, 75-172
Nebraska 2-4, scoring margin against opponents, 171-206
So, yes, a couple crappy teams with Iowa having the advantage and the momentum in heads-up even if the record of those is still 50/50. Try leaving your feelings out of this. If one team in the Black Friday matchup significantly lags the other in overall winning metrics, it's Iowa.
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Those metrics changed when UNL hired Mike Riley. It brought not only Iowa but most Big 10 teams back into play.
Nebraska has played 8 bowl games since they joined - mighty impressive. I assume you mean winning 2 of 6 but get consistent with how you display W/L records, my assumption could be wrong those go and you just don't know how to count
Ouch, the last time Kansas beat us was back in 1909. What an embarrassment! Back when Nebraska was playing the Omaha YMCA and Lincoln High. Also, Nile Kinnick was born and raised in Iowa, played 1 year of high school football in Omaha, won every award they have, realized how pathetic it was and moved back to Iowa.
They took a look at Iowa's performance in the premier, big-time bowl matchups they've achieved since both teams joined the league and said "Yes, this is the team to stamp B1G all over. They will raise the flag!"
Seriously, threads like this are pure trolling. What else could possibly be the explanation?
Unfortunately, Yes it will take time. There will be no improvement until the AD and Mediocre Mike are gone. Enjoy your run against the Huskers while it lasts, eventually we will get rid of these clowns.
We were the ones being trolled when Eichorst fired Pelini, and basically said he did it because Nebraska didn't beat lowly Iowa soundly enough. He should have left Iowa out of the discussion completely. What an idiot to place the reason for firing of a coach on ONE GAME, THAT HE WON!
Blah, blah, blah. Same story, different year. No one wants to coach your team because you are all delusional. It's 2017, not 1995.
Nebby B1G record: 31-18, 0-1 B1G Championship game, no titles, 2011-16
Iowa B1G record: 29-20, 0-1 B1G Championship game, no titles, 2011-16
Series record: 3-3
Keep on telling us how great you really were in a soft conference. This is the B1G where teams play defense and win championships because of it.
It's been 20 years since Nebraska was relevant. For some of their fans, I think it will take at least another 20 years of mediocrity for them to realize theyre not relevant.
This is coming from "H8fullgr8". This is his third or fourth handle this loser has used to come here after getting banned. Talk about insane.
jNW beats Nebbt too much. Then again, so do the Gophers. Maybe Purdue, nope they lost to the Boilermakers recently too. Dang, there are no guarantees for Nebby in this conference. This isn't the Big 8/Big 12.
Crappy teams don't have top 10 finishes on average every three years. (That would be Iowa and their 5 top 10 finishes)
Crappy teams do however pretend that they are Blue Bloods despite the fact that they haven't done anything for almost 20 years.
So, i guess Nebraska decided they didnt want to play on Saturdays either.
You mean that #9 in 2015, since this discussion is about since Nebraska moved to the B1G? How proud you must be.
Or do you want to start at 2001 and focus on that year through 2009, a prominent time in Iowa history, while complaining that Nebraska fans live in the past?
Or do you want to go back even further? Pay attention...
I disagree. This has become a decent rivalry and, yes, Nebraska media and University staff are fairly dismissive and disrespectful.
I'll also grant that last year was a total bomb for UNL in the rivalry and I've said, in spite of the record of 50/50, that Iowa has the upper hand in momentum and has delivered the goods in the post B1G arrival series. 40-10 says Iowa made us their bitch last year.
The idea, however, and the original comment I'm opposing that suggests that some random fan feels that Iowa must have won more games since Nebraska joined the B1G is ridiculous. More importantly, the idiotic theme of the thread, that Nebraska is somehow more embarrassing, than Iowa is thoroughly debunked as homer trolling.
The truth is that both teams underperform when it counts. Both teams now have really embarrassing losses to NIU. Both teams are becoming a bit of a joke and this very debate is a tempest in a teapot, nationally speaking.
You have one more win than Iowa since joining the B1G but your team has been absolutely woodshed beat about 10 times since joining the league.
Iowa's worse loss was to PSU last year. Iowa have never given up 60 to 70 points like your team has on multiple occasions. You, your fans, and team are becoming a joke to the B1G with this sense of belonging to an exclusive club when you haven't done squat for close to two decades. Even the announcers yesterday mentioned it but congrats on being on the Iowa board comparing Iowa to your dumpster fire of a team. Best wishes on your 4 to 5 win season.
LOL. Iowa has finished in the top 10 5 times in 15 years. That is on average every 3 years being in the top 10.
UN has ZERO during that time span. Zip. Zero. Nada.
40-10
Pay attention
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I am wondering how long until the Tanner Lee experiment ends? Guy wasn't great at Tulane but got tons of hype sitting out, even by analysts claiming he might leave for the NFL after one year. So far it has been the same thing as at Tulane, low completion percentage and throws interceptions. Tre Bryant is the only RB that has run the ball well but he is dinged up again.
I think they are kind of all in with him at this point. He spent the entire spring and fall as the guy. He does have ability, but the same things that hurt him at Tulane are problems now. And Nebraska doesn't have the surrounding cast allow him to be cautious and not make mistakes. They need him to make plays.
Tanner Lee is still the guy at the moment. He's made some poor decisions, but a lot of his play is also due to his line not protecting him at all. He's not faultless in what has happened, but right now I'm not sure a freshman QB would do much better.
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