Of course I expect to see Iowa as a 9 seed Sunday win the #1 overall seed in the next round, but it’d be nice to drop to a 10/11.
At This Point I Want To Drop Below 8/9
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Yeah w/Michigan and MSU being on the 2 line means Iowa will most likely be a 8/9 line.
Our fans never cease to amaze with their common sense approach to sports
Remember our last two trips we’ve been in the 7/10’game and had to face #2 seeds. What did we get beat by (zags were up 20+ and Nova was up 30). So no matter what we’re gonna get boat races in the second round (if we make it that far).
I would honestly love to see what Duke could do to this defense, assuming we might decide to win a basketball game again this year to get to the 2nd round. Zion and Barrett would likely break 50 by halftime.
It makes sense to want to play a 1 seed in the 2nd round?
Basically being 7-10 is a 2nd round death sentence.I'd rather play our way up to a 6 seed, but that shipped has sailed barring a miracle run this week.
You can’t worry about round 2 unless you win round 1
Based on most of the posts here, it seems that pretty much everybody expects the team to get killed in the first round anyways. Some might even be hoping for it so they can spend the offseason crying for Fran to be fired.It makes sense to want to play a 1 seed in the 2nd round?
I'd rather play our way up to a 6 seed, but that shipped has sailed barring a miracle run this week.
Iowa actually winning a game in the tournament would be a big success... unless making and winning a game in the NCAA Tournament is also considered mediocre around here (not directed at you)
Sure, but my goal isn't to just make the 2nd round. Probably moot point this year, though.
Makes sense since 8/9 seed sees the #1 seed in round 2. Not rocket science. You either hope for a 7 or a 10.
I said the same thing.,
I would rather see us at an 11 playing a 6 then a 3...better chances of making it to the 16
I would rather see us at an 11 playing a 6 then a 3...better chances of making it to the 16
The 8/9 seed is the absolute worst to get if you want to make the second weekend. 10 isn’t great but still better. 11 wouldn’t be half bad although I doubt we drop that far. We will likely be on that 9 line with a 1-1 performance in the BTT.
The OP actually makes very good sense, depending on what the goal is for your team.
If your goal is for your team to win ONE game in the NCAA Tourney, then yes, the higher seed the better, unequivocally. However, if this team's goal is to REACH THE SWEET 16, history clearly shows that you have a better chance doing that as a #10, #11 and even #12 seed than you do as a #8 or #9.
There was a thread about this a few months ago. The #8-#9 line is truly a death sentence for any team wanting to reach the second weekend.
Seems like most of the brackets are just relying on previous seeding predictions, and adjusting Iowa down from that. So right now, predictions around 8 - 9.
But look at Iowa with a clean slate, and if we lose Thursday, I'm starting to be on board with Iowa being in real trouble. That is, if, only if, some bids are stolen last minute.
Iowa is fine, really. The teams behind Iowa on the seed lines have more warts than Iowa, even if Iowa loses their first game in the BTT. The best of the best bracketologist still have Iowa in the 8-9 seed range as of today. I have them at a 9 currently as well. I would be absolutely surprised if we fell down past that 10 line.
I guess I don’t value a sweet sixteen as much as others. It’s one more win, that happens to occur at the right time. I couldn’t name half the sweet sixteen from last year. Dr Tom went a decade between sweet 16’s and he’s worshipped around here.
I think a seeet 16 gets you noticed amongst recruits. UNI made in 2010 and brought in a talented class the following year. Then in 2015 they got to the top 10 in rankings and were a 5th seed.
I think anytime you can advance to the second weekend that’s a HUGE recruiting bonus and it gets your name out there nationally.
Uh that allegedly good UNI class missed the tournament their first three years.
Even though OP is generally nuts, I can’t say he’s wrong in theory but obviously I also don’t want us to tank. But I do think the only ways we got off the 8/9 line are a one and done in the BTT or if we beat Michigan. A chalk arrangement I think keeps us on 8/9.
This is ridiculous. Every game that you win in the tourney is exponentially more meaningful.
But they made it in 15 & 16. So they did make it! Mind you that’s little lowly UNI. How many NCAA’s has TC & JBO played in? 1 this year, maybe 2 before their done.
Anytime you advance in the tournament it’s a huge deal and gets your name out in the recruiting game.
Yea, I mean this more as if absolute chaos happens in terms of bid stealing, bubble teams making a run, and the committee does a WTF that surprises everyone / makes no sense / makes a statement ..type of thing.
Gotcha. The WCC/MAC/MWC/A10 are the conferences where the chalk must win for bubble teams to feel safe. NC St/Clemson is a play in game tomorrow imo. As is Ohio St/Indiana. Quite a few teams have to win that first round game to even feel a little bit comfortable.
Man, you tend to put some stupid sh*t on this board, but this might be your masterpiece.
I mean the sweet 16 is a level attainable by only great coaches. It has nothing to do with chance or timing.
By far the best post in this thread.
I could be proven wrong but I have been of the mindset that getting out of the Big Ten and into the NCAA’s night actially benefit Iowa this year to play better. I think we are seeing that the grind of the Big Ten has gotten to the team somewhat and all the teams have scouted and played Iowa and figured some things out against them. Also, not because Iowa is getting screwed by the refs but I think the Big Ten’s refs tendency to let the games get more physical as the conference season goes on is not good for Iowa’s style.
I could see Iowa benefitting from playing some teams that haven’t scouted their offense or figured out how to pick apart their zone and looking more like they did in New York and getting to the FT line a lot and causing some issues with their length in the zone.
I could definitely end up being wrong but just a theory I’ve been thinking about.
I think we will find that once we get into NCAA tournament play the Big as a conference is going to look really good. I would like to avoid having to play a #1 seed in the second round, I think we'd at least have a (long) shot against the #2 seeds.
I’d take a matchup against LSU if they end up getting a 2. I don’t want any part of the current projected 1 seeds.
Ahh, I see you're on-board with the idea I pitched a few days ago, OP.
I like it.
Around here, winning your first game in the tourney isn't considered mediocre, but when you get outside the fanbase and talk to others, it is...........
I suggested this before, and it might happen anyways whether we want it to or not.
If Iowa loses to Ill/NW, they could easily fall to the 11 seed (not necessarily Dayton though if they're still talking that Indiana/Ohio State/Texas could get in..........), and we would play the 6, so basically we just traded spots from the seed we were aiming for before we went on the bau classic late-season Fran collapse.........hashtag pending (needs work, I feel).
Here's Lunardi's 5 and 6 seeds right now just to give you an idea of the type of teams we could face in a 6/11 matchup:
5s-
Maryland
Auburn
Virginia Tech
Marquette
6s-
Nevada
Villanova
Mississippi State
Buffalo
I'd MUCH rather take on one of those and then a Texas Tech to get to the Sweet 16, than face Duke, Kentucky, Gonzaga, or UNC etc.
If Iowa loses to Ill/NW, they could easily fall to the 11 seed (not necessarily Dayton though if they're still talking that Indiana/Ohio State/Texas could get in..........), and we would play the 6, so basically we just traded spots from the seed we were aiming for before we went on the bau classic late-season Fran collapse.........hashtag pending (needs work, I feel).
Here's Lunardi's 5 and 6 seeds right now just to give you an idea of the type of teams we could face in a 6/11 matchup:
5s-
Maryland
Auburn
Virginia Tech
Marquette
6s-
Nevada
Villanova
Mississippi State
Buffalo
I'd MUCH rather take on one of those and then a Texas Tech to get to the Sweet 16, than face Duke, Kentucky, Gonzaga, or UNC etc.
I feel ya pops. It doesn’t come close to having a nice quiet place to eat ice cream (CHA) but it would be a nice change of pace for our program.
