Yeah Boise's SoS per Sagarin is #91 and they have zero quality wins. That shouldn't get anyone a first round CFP bye.
Nov 26 CFP Rankings: 1ST ROUND BYES for Oregon, Texas, #6 Miami & #11 Boise St. Power 2 Conferences DOMINATE 12 Team Field(4 B1G teams; 3 SEC teams)
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The Big 12's best team (and only CFP representative) being #14 BYU says a lot about the Big 12.
The conspiracy theorist in me thinks they did it this way to pressure Notre Dame into a conference. Imagine how ND is going to feel when they have a first round playoff game on the road in a white out in Happy Valley while two teams they think they are better than (someone like SMU, Boise State, BYU, etc) get byes into the next round because they are in a conference.
Also I’m not sure if they will really do this but I think the committee probably should drop ND a little in the final rankings because they don’t have a 13th game against a good team while everyone else is playing in a conference championship game.
Also I agree this will likely get revisited and in a couple years we will have a 16 team playoff with no byes and no guaranteed seeds for anyone. It will be closer to how basketball does it. Imagine the bellyaching if conference champs were guaranteed a 1 seed in March Madness when the team’s resume probably deserved a 3 or even a 4 seed.
I do agree with you that it makes sense to give these champs a guaranteed bid though (just not a bye). I like how it keeps up interest in the playoffs across the country and excluding one of these conferences from the playoffs altogether wouldn’t be right.
It does make you wonder if Notre Dame might consider joining a conference. If they were part of the ACC, they'd be looking at a 1st round bye and not Miami. Still not sure they are a top 6 team, though.
The Power 2 Conferences (with 8 of the 12 bids) continue to dominate. The Other 2 Conferences (ACC & Big 12) only get 1 bid each.
IMO, an idle Notre Dame should not be allowed to jump the loser of a conference championship game.
Nov 19 CFP Rankings:
(teams in BOLD are part of the 12 team field)
1 Oregon (1st Round Bye)
2 Ohio State
3 Texas (1st Round Bye)
4 Penn State
5 Indiana
6 Notre Dame
7 Alabama
8 Miami (1st Round Bye)
9 Ole Miss
10 Georgia
11 Tennessee
12 Boise State (1st Round Bye)
13 SMU
14 BYU
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Finebaum sounds off on Georgia's latest CFP ranking
#11 Tennessee is currently projected to be OUT of the CFP.
Nov 19 CFP Rankings:
(teams in BOLD are part of the 12 team field)
1 Oregon (1st Round Bye)
2 Ohio State
3 Texas (1st Round Bye)
4 Penn State
5 Indiana
6 Notre Dame
7 Alabama
8 Miami (1st Round Bye)
9 Ole Miss
10 Georgia
11 Tennessee
12 Boise State (1st Round Bye)
13 SMU
14 BYU
Nov 19 CFP Rankings:
(teams in BOLD are part of the 12 team field)
1 Oregon (1st Round Bye)
2 Ohio State
3 Texas (1st Round Bye)
4 Penn State
5 Indiana
6 Notre Dame
7 Alabama
8 Miami (1st Round Bye)
9 Ole Miss
10 Georgia
11 Tennessee
12 Boise State (1st Round Bye)
13 SMU
14 BYU
More upsets today to shake things up.
These 4 teams which lost WERE part of last week's 12 team CFP projection:
#5 Indiana lost 38-15 to #2 Ohio State
#7 Alabama lost 24-3 to Oklahoma
#9 Ole Miss lost 24-17 to Florida
#14 BYU lost 28-23 to #21 Arizona State
In the far left column you will see who WON and LOST this week. #1 Oregon was idle.
Nov 19 CFP Rankings:
(teams in BOLD are part of the 12 team field)
1 Oregon (1st Round Bye)
WON 2 Ohio State
WON 3 Texas (1st Round Bye)
WON 4 Penn State
LOST 5 Indiana
WON 6 Notre Dame
LOST 7 Alabama
WON 8 Miami (1st Round Bye)
LOST 9 Ole Miss
WON 10 Georgia
WON 11 Tennessee
WON 12 Boise State (1st Round Bye)
WON 13 SMU
LOST 14 BYU
LOST 15 Texas A&M
LOST 16 Colorado
WON 17 Clemson
WON 18 South Carolina
LOST 19 Army
20 Tulane
WON 21 Arizona State
WON 22 Iowa State
WON 23 Missouri
WON 24 UNLV
WON 25 Illinois
These 4 teams which lost WERE part of last week's 12 team CFP projection:
#5 Indiana lost 38-15 to #2 Ohio State
#7 Alabama lost 24-3 to Oklahoma
#9 Ole Miss lost 24-17 to Florida
#14 BYU lost 28-23 to #21 Arizona State
In the far left column you will see who WON and LOST this week. #1 Oregon was idle.
Nov 19 CFP Rankings:
(teams in BOLD are part of the 12 team field)
1 Oregon (1st Round Bye)
WON 2 Ohio State
WON 3 Texas (1st Round Bye)
WON 4 Penn State
LOST 5 Indiana
WON 6 Notre Dame
LOST 7 Alabama
WON 8 Miami (1st Round Bye)
LOST 9 Ole Miss
WON 10 Georgia
WON 11 Tennessee
WON 12 Boise State (1st Round Bye)
WON 13 SMU
LOST 14 BYU
LOST 15 Texas A&M
LOST 16 Colorado
WON 17 Clemson
WON 18 South Carolina
LOST 19 Army
20 Tulane
WON 21 Arizona State
WON 22 Iowa State
WON 23 Missouri
WON 24 UNLV
WON 25 Illinois
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The Big 12 is a joke.
Which Big 12 team will back into the CFP???
Which Big 12 team will back into the CFP???
8 ESPN writers project #12 Boise State getting a FIRST ROUND BYE.
5 ESPN writers project #21 Arizona State getting a FIRST ROUND BYE.
Arizona State (9-2, 6-2) was picked in the preseason to finish last in the Big 12. Their 2 losses were to Texas Tech (30-22) and Cincinnati (24-14). They finish the regular season at Arizona (4-7, 2-6)
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5 ESPN writers project #21 Arizona State getting a FIRST ROUND BYE.
Arizona State (9-2, 6-2) was picked in the preseason to finish last in the Big 12. Their 2 losses were to Texas Tech (30-22) and Cincinnati (24-14). They finish the regular season at Arizona (4-7, 2-6)
College Football Playoff picks after Week 13
Find out which teams our reporters pick for the College Football Playoff following Week 13.
Will the SEC still get 4 teams in the CFP?
In the SEC Championship game, #10 Georgia will face the winner of next week's game between #3 Texas and #15 Texas A&M (in College Station). The Longhorns and Aggies have not met since 2011, when they were both members of the Big 12.
Some excerpts from a fun story from EsecPN:
Somewhere, SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey is asking ChatGPT to write an argument in favor of the SEC still gobbling up every vacant playoff spot despite Saturday's results
After weeks of lamentations that the SEC has eaten itself because of the depth of quality in the league, it wasn't the quality teams that feasted in Week 13. It was the hungry, huddled masses of Auburn (beat #15 Texas A&M 43-41), Florida (beat #9 Ole Miss 24-17) and Oklahoma (beat #7 Alabama 24-3).
The Crimson Tide have three losses for the first time since 2010.
Here’s where the SEC stands with just one Saturday remaining in the regular season:
Texas is 10-1 with the renewal of the rivalry against A&M awaiting.
Georgia, Tennessee and the Aggies all have two conference losses, but Georgia did officially clinch a spot in the conference title game.
Alabama and Ole Miss are officially out of the SEC title race.
But forget those standings. Consider this:
--Texas was demolished by Georgia, its only game against a team with seven or more wins this year.
--Ole Miss beat Georgia, but has lost to Kentucky and Florida.
--Alabama beat Georgia, but has lost to Vanderbilt and Oklahoma.
--Tennessee beat Alabama, but lost to Arkansas.
--A&M beat Missouri and LSU, both ranked in the top 10 at the time, but lost to Auburn.
Things look different after Week 13. There is no real hierarchy, no conference supremacy.
There are a handful of clearly good teams -- Oregon, Ohio State, Georgia -- and a whole lot of question marks after that.
In the end, that's probably more fun for everyone.
Well, everyone except SEC Commissioner Sankey.
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In the SEC Championship game, #10 Georgia will face the winner of next week's game between #3 Texas and #15 Texas A&M (in College Station). The Longhorns and Aggies have not met since 2011, when they were both members of the Big 12.
Some excerpts from a fun story from EsecPN:
Somewhere, SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey is asking ChatGPT to write an argument in favor of the SEC still gobbling up every vacant playoff spot despite Saturday's results
After weeks of lamentations that the SEC has eaten itself because of the depth of quality in the league, it wasn't the quality teams that feasted in Week 13. It was the hungry, huddled masses of Auburn (beat #15 Texas A&M 43-41), Florida (beat #9 Ole Miss 24-17) and Oklahoma (beat #7 Alabama 24-3).
The Crimson Tide have three losses for the first time since 2010.
Here’s where the SEC stands with just one Saturday remaining in the regular season:
Texas is 10-1 with the renewal of the rivalry against A&M awaiting.
Georgia, Tennessee and the Aggies all have two conference losses, but Georgia did officially clinch a spot in the conference title game.
Alabama and Ole Miss are officially out of the SEC title race.
But forget those standings. Consider this:
--Texas was demolished by Georgia, its only game against a team with seven or more wins this year.
--Ole Miss beat Georgia, but has lost to Kentucky and Florida.
--Alabama beat Georgia, but has lost to Vanderbilt and Oklahoma.
--Tennessee beat Alabama, but lost to Arkansas.
--A&M beat Missouri and LSU, both ranked in the top 10 at the time, but lost to Auburn.
Things look different after Week 13. There is no real hierarchy, no conference supremacy.
There are a handful of clearly good teams -- Oregon, Ohio State, Georgia -- and a whole lot of question marks after that.
In the end, that's probably more fun for everyone.
Well, everyone except SEC Commissioner Sankey.
What we learned in Week 13: Chaos strikes the SEC, midnight strikes for Cinderellas
The SEC was thrown into another whirlwind with Ole Miss, Bama and Texas A&M losing, plus more trends from Week 13.
NOVEMBER 26 UPDATE:
Oregon, Texas, Miami and Boise State would get first round byes.
The Power 2 conferences have 7 of the 12 teams (4 B1G teams; 3 SEC teams).
Nov 26 CFP Rankings:
(teams in BOLD are part of the 12 team field)
1. Oregon (11-0)....1st Round Bye
2. Ohio State (10-1)
3. Texas (10-1).....1st Round Bye
4. Penn State (10-1)
5. Notre Dame (10-1)
6. Miami (10-1)....1st Round Bye
7. Georgia (9-2)
8. Tennessee (9-2)
9. SMU (10-1)
10. Indiana (10-1)
11. Boise State (10-1)...1st Round Bye
12. Clemson (9-2)
13. Alabama (8-3)
14. Ole Miss (8-3)
15. South Carolina (8-3)
16. Arizona State (9-2)
17. Tulane (9-2)
18. Iowa State (9-2)
19. BYU (9-2)
20. Texas A&M (8-3)
21. Missouri (8-3)
22. UNLV (9-2)
23. Illinois (8-3)
24. Kansas State (8-3)
25. Coloardo (8-3)
# 1 seed Oregon Ducks
#2 seed Texas Longhorns
#3 seed Miami Hurricanes
#4 seed Boise State
#9 Tennessee at #8 Georgia
Winner plays: #1 Oregon
#12 Arizona State at #5 Ohio State
Winner plays: #4 Boise State
#11 Indiana at #6 Penn State
Winner plays: #3 Miami
#10 SMU at #7 Notre Dame
Winner plays: #2 Texas
The 4 quarterfinal games, on Dec 31 and Jan 1, will be played at:
* Fiesta Bowl (State Farm Stadium in Glendale, AZ)
* Peach Bowl (Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta, GA)
* Rose Bowl (Pasadena, CA)
* Sugar Bowl (Caesars Superdome in New Orleans, LA)
The 2 semifinal games, on Jan 9 and 10, will take place at:
* Orange Bowl (Hard Rock Stadium, Miami, FL)
* Cotton Bowl (AT&T Stadium in Arlington, TX)
Jan 20: The CFP National Championship at Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta, GA.
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Oregon, Texas, Miami and Boise State would get first round byes.
The Power 2 conferences have 7 of the 12 teams (4 B1G teams; 3 SEC teams).
Nov 26 CFP Rankings:
(teams in BOLD are part of the 12 team field)
1. Oregon (11-0)....1st Round Bye
2. Ohio State (10-1)
3. Texas (10-1).....1st Round Bye
4. Penn State (10-1)
5. Notre Dame (10-1)
6. Miami (10-1)....1st Round Bye
7. Georgia (9-2)
8. Tennessee (9-2)
9. SMU (10-1)
10. Indiana (10-1)
11. Boise State (10-1)...1st Round Bye
12. Clemson (9-2)
13. Alabama (8-3)
14. Ole Miss (8-3)
15. South Carolina (8-3)
16. Arizona State (9-2)
17. Tulane (9-2)
18. Iowa State (9-2)
19. BYU (9-2)
20. Texas A&M (8-3)
21. Missouri (8-3)
22. UNLV (9-2)
23. Illinois (8-3)
24. Kansas State (8-3)
25. Coloardo (8-3)
1st-Round CFP Byes
Note: Seeding is based on the CFP Top 25.# 1 seed Oregon Ducks
#2 seed Texas Longhorns
#3 seed Miami Hurricanes
#4 seed Boise State
First-round matchups (on campus)
On Dec 20 and 21:#9 Tennessee at #8 Georgia
Winner plays: #1 Oregon
#12 Arizona State at #5 Ohio State
Winner plays: #4 Boise State
#11 Indiana at #6 Penn State
Winner plays: #3 Miami
#10 SMU at #7 Notre Dame
Winner plays: #2 Texas
The 4 quarterfinal games, on Dec 31 and Jan 1, will be played at:
* Fiesta Bowl (State Farm Stadium in Glendale, AZ)
* Peach Bowl (Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta, GA)
* Rose Bowl (Pasadena, CA)
* Sugar Bowl (Caesars Superdome in New Orleans, LA)
The 2 semifinal games, on Jan 9 and 10, will take place at:
* Orange Bowl (Hard Rock Stadium, Miami, FL)
* Cotton Bowl (AT&T Stadium in Arlington, TX)
Jan 20: The CFP National Championship at Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta, GA.
CFP rankings release: See how the new top 25 affected the bracket
A first look at the new bracket based on the College Football Playoff committee's fourth set of rankings.
