Audibles

[JStandefer]

While rewatching games from last season, I noticed some awful things with out audibles. I know Nate was a true Sophomore and a first year starter, but his audibles were awful.

The audible or ‘fake audible’ went no where. I don’t know if this is trust issue or something deeper. It seems this has transcended several QBs.

Did anyone else notice this?

 

[SWIowahawks]

It’s been talked about a lot and you’re not alone. 9 out of 10 times the play after the audible is a run. The snap occurres as soon as his hands go under center too.

 

[BubsFinn]

Oh yeah, this has been noticed. It goes back at least to Drew Tate, if not further.
It appears Kirk has his QB get out of what he perceives to be a disastrous play, into a merely bad one. The thought being that a three yard loss isn't as bad as an interception.
Our audibles do not look to capitalize on what the defense is doing, but rather to cower away from what the defense is doing.

 

[anon_8rcdnbko1jbe0]

It’s been talked about a lot and you’re not alone. 9 out of 10 times the play after the audible is a run. The snap occurres as soon as his hands go under center too.

My issue was at the audible was mainly to the run on the short side. I'm sure it was a numbers thing that Nate thought he saw and hopefully his experience will help this year. Although he did audible to the touchdown run against the Lions so there's that.

 

[HawkIDrummer]

My issue was at the audible was mainly to the run on the short side. I'm sure it was a numbers thing that Nate thought he saw and hopefully his experience will help this year. Although he did audible to the touchdown run against the Lions so there's that.

Since Kirk took over, QBs are coached to look at the number of defenders and if there's an overload to one side, audible to the weak side. (they've stated as much publicly, it's no secret). Unfortunately, teams usually shade to the wide side of the field so that ends up with a stretch run into the short sideline and no gain the vast majority of the time.

It's also so predictable that I've seen old ladies call out the play from the stands. Defenses know exactly what's coming.

 

[SWIowahawks]

My issue was at the audible was mainly to the run on the short side. I'm sure it was a numbers thing that Nate thought he saw and hopefully his experience will help this year. Although he did audible to the touchdown run against the Lions so there's that.

That’s been a source of ridicule too. I can’t remember which way but a lot of fans were saying it usually went to the side the QB yelled to first, or vice versa.

Like you, I noticed a couple times later in the year where he was able to audible into a good pass play but it seemed few and far between. I’d assume we will be seeing more of this as he gets older.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

That’s been a source of ridicule too. I can’t remember which way but a lot of fans were saying it usually went to the side the QB yelled to first, or vice versa.

Like you, I noticed a couple times later in the year where he was able to audible into a good pass play but it seemed few and far between. I’d assume we will be seeing more of this as he gets older.

Of course, the audibles we're ridiculing are the ones that are entrusted to new QBs who are still learning the ropes. It's a lot for a young player to take in ... not only do they need to command the huddle and communicate the play ... but then they need to think about how what they see from the D pre-snap will impact their progressions ... OR if it's simply a better idea to check to a run. And, if he's going to check to a run, he needs to make sure that our blockers can account for the number of hats.

On top of the above, the QB has to account for the fact that Ds are going to throw looks at him that he hadn't previously seen on film. Furthermore, young QBs are still newbies as it comes to learning how to properly break down film. An experienced QB knows that even irrespective of the looks at the D shows ... the D still conceptually has things that it likes to do. Thus, from the defensive personnel and where the guys are positioned ... how is that consistent with the things that that D likes to do?

Once a QB learns to make the aforementioned recognitions from film ... and then see them on the field before him ... then he can react much more quickly. That then leads to the audibles that at entrusted to more advanced QBs ... when the QB is able to check to a much broader range of plays. You see, part of the team prep is to practice particular plays based on the defensive looks that they see. For a more experienced QB ... the Hawkeye coaches will not necessarily call a single play ... but give the QB the discretion to choose a particular play out of a plethora of options, that the deemed would most likely work against a particular look. The QB then identifies the right play then based on his reads of the D and checks to it (pre-snap) ... and that gives the O a high degree of adaptability.

Now that things are coming faster to Stanley ... he's more capable of handling this responsibility. Furthermore, he's likely more capable of doing it with out "thinking too much" ... thereby not having the mental side of the game throw off his timing. If the timing is ON and he checks to the right play ... it's more likely to go for a big gainer. That's the sort of thing that we're hoping to see more from Stanley ... and I'm thinking that we will!

 

[His Hawkness]

This has been going on for a while. Audible usually means no gain or loss with a stretch running play to whatever side the QB yells at first.

 

[HawkIDrummer]

Of course, the audibles we're ridiculing are the ones that are entrusted to new QBs who are still learning the ropes.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, That's the sort of thing that we're hoping to see more from Stanley ... and I'm thinking that we will!

That all sounds great, Ghost. Unfortunately the "stretch into the near sideline" has been the primary (and sometimes only) audible regardless of QB experience.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

That all sounds great, Ghost. Unfortunately the "stretch into the near sideline" has been the primary (and sometimes only) audible regardless of QB experience.

When Beathard was a SR (and even at times while he wss a JR), he'd make audibles on nearly every play ... and that was on both pass and run plays. It would seem that reality and perception aren't matching up for some folks. Of course that's also why we were having more delay of game issues too that season.

 

[HawkIDrummer]

When Beathard was a SR (and even at times while he wss a JR), he'd make audibles on nearly every play ... and that was on both pass and run plays. It would seem that reality and perception aren't matching up for some folks. Of course that's also why we were having more delay of game issues too that season.

CJ's senior year would be the outlier...a BIG outlier...from what we've seen under Kirk. But "nearly every play"?... I think your reality may be a little skewed too.

 

[bravelittletoaster]

I saw more pass audibles last year then years with beathard. Thought last year was actually slightly better audible wise then last 5 years

 

[bravelittletoaster]

Either way it’s still predictably retarded

 

[BubsFinn]

Either way it’s still predictably retarded

I think you mean redardedly predictable.

 

[bravelittletoaster]

I was talking about myself ...