Have you ended any family or friend relationships because of Trump?

[runkpanole]

I’m an adult, so no. I simply tell people that I’m not going to discuss politics with them and make it clear not to discuss with me. My son’s godfather is in DC now. I love the guy, but I’m not going to talk about it with him. I instead steer the conversation to something less controversial, like his Crimson Tide being left out of the CFP and watch his mental gymnastics to justify why he thinks they should have been included. 🤣

 

[SB_SB]

Nope. Dumbest shit ever. Gonna cut off family because of who they voted for? GTFOH

You don't get it at all. Its not about who people voted for, it's actually not even about politics. It's about what people stand for and their character. There will always be evil people in the world and how they become a leader varies. Some come to power through politics, others religion, or music, or sports, etc. No matter what, they all get their power by having people believe and follow them. They are really nothing without the followers. They accomplish nothing without the followers. Anything they do (that may seem positive) is based on getting more followers, or money, or fame. So the dispute between MAGA and non-MAGA is not politics, its about right and wrong, it's about a persons character, it's about who your are as a person. That's why people lose respect for others, that's why people don't talk, its because most people want to communicate with someone with a similar character.

 

[Nole-4-Life]

You don't get it at all. Its not about who people voted for, it's actually not even about politics. It's about what people stand for and their character. There will always be evil people in the world and how they become a leader varies. Some come to power through politics, others religion, or music, or sports, etc. No matter what, they all get their power by having people believe and follow them. They are really nothing without the followers. They accomplish nothing without the followers. Anything they do (that may seem positive) is based on getting more followers, or money, or fame. So the dispute between MAGA and non-MAGA is not politics, its about right and wrong, it's about a persons character, it's about who your are as a person. That's why people lose respect for others, that's why people don't talk, its because most people want to communicate with someone with a similar character.

I don't really give a shit about that. As long as they haven't done anything to me, I'm not about to cut off family.

 

[Ree4]

I had an in-law bring up the litterbox in schools hoax over xmastime - thankfully I had exposure to plenty of numpties here that I shut it down pretty quick.

Other than that, almost all of the people I know are on the right side of things. The biggest issue and frustration that I run into is that a lot of them don't realize that, while not as egregious or as bad as Trump/MAGA/Republicans, Democrats are part of the problem too.

 

[alaskanseminole]

I've been thinking about this question a lot since it was posted, and the simple answer is no, I haven’t ended any relationships because of Trump. But I do fear we're losing our humanity. The amount of vitriol I see on this board, on social media, and in the mainstream media is truly appalling. We are so divided. The minute a person sees "Trump" or "Biden," they are judged solely on that, as if nothing else about them matters.

Take my mechanic/shop owner, for example. He's a Trump supporter, but he's also the kind of person who would give you the shirt off his back. He always squeezes my Jeep into his schedule, even when the shop is booked, and gives me great deals. He’s walked me through repairs over the phone, after hours on his own time. Just last month, he kept the shop open an hour after closing to get my Jeep ready because my wife had surgery the next day.

Should I cut ties with him because he voted for Trump? Should I end my friendship with the best man at my wedding because he supports Trump? Should I ignore a stranded motorist because they have a Trump sticker on their car?

 

[BrianNole777]

I've been thinking about this question a lot since it was posted, and the simple answer is no, I haven’t ended any relationships because of Trump. But I do fear we're losing our humanity. The amount of vitriol I see on this board, on social media, and in the mainstream media is truly appalling. We are so divided. The minute a person sees "Trump" or "Biden," they are judged solely on that, as if nothing else about them matters.

Take my mechanic/shop owner, for example. He's a Trump supporter, but he's also the kind of person who would give you the shirt off his back. He always squeezes my Jeep into his schedule, even when the shop is booked, and gives me great deals. He’s walked me through repairs over the phone, after hours on his own time. Just last month, he kept the shop open an hour after closing to get my Jeep ready because my wife had surgery the next day.

Should I cut ties with him because he voted for Trump? Should I end my friendship with the best man at my wedding because he supports Trump? Should I ignore a stranded motorist because they have a Trump sticker on their car?

Great post. It's not as if arguing about politics online is going to do anything but continue to divide this troubled country.

 

[hexumhawk]

Not ended them but we don’t talk about anything other than the weather pretty much with one side of the family after a particularly nasty Christmas explosion during Trumps first term…both sides of the political spectrum were yelling at each other. In all my years this was never a thing until Trumps first go around.

And I want to be clear this is not just “no politics” it’s literally nearly anything because if you say something like, “did you see the local girls HS bball team lost at state?” Has about a 50-50 shot of devolving into both sides yelling at each other about the liberals allowing trans athletes to take over girls sports.

This was never a thing until Trump broke this country

Trump didn't break it. The media has pushed lies and fear and people like you bought into it.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

I've been thinking about this question a lot since it was posted, and the simple answer is no, I haven’t ended any relationships because of Trump. But I do fear we're losing our humanity. The amount of vitriol I see on this board, on social media, and in the mainstream media is truly appalling. We are so divided. The minute a person sees "Trump" or "Biden," they are judged solely on that, as if nothing else about them matters.

Take my mechanic/shop owner, for example. He's a Trump supporter, but he's also the kind of person who would give you the shirt off his back. He always squeezes my Jeep into his schedule, even when the shop is booked, and gives me great deals. He’s walked me through repairs over the phone, after hours on his own time. Just last month, he kept the shop open an hour after closing to get my Jeep ready because my wife had surgery the next day.

Should I cut ties with him because he voted for Trump? Should I end my friendship with the best man at my wedding because he supports Trump? Should I ignore a stranded motorist because they have a Trump sticker on their car?

Would you be friends with someone who applauded someone who mocked your children?

Someone who supports someone who blames you for your children's disabilities?

What about someone who tries to take away your healthcare?

I only have limited patience for those kinds of people and I deal with them too much as it is.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Would you be friends with someone who applauded someone who mocked your children?

Someone who supports someone who blames you for your children's disabilities?

What about someone who tries to take away your healthcare?

I only have limited patience for those kinds of people and I deal with them too much as it is.

If my best friend did any of those things? No.

I don't know what to tell you Hoosier. I'm not going to cut myself off from 1/2 the world because they voted for Trump. I was just on a call with my team at JBER and they were discussing the Mt McKinley thing. I'm pretty sure many on the call were Trump voters, but they were all shaking their head about the Denali renaming saying it was completely unnecessary and no one asked for it. People have varying reasons for their vote. I know yours. You know mine. Anyone else, it's likely none of our business. And I'm not in the business of making friends based on a political affiliation caveat.

The guy who cut my trees last week said (and I have no reason why), "I wonder if De Niro and those other Hollywood folks will leave our country this time!" I said, "Who knows. I guess that'll be their choice" ...as I walked back into my house. What should I have done? Yelled at him? "YOU VOTED FOR TRUMP!? GET OFF MY PROPERTY!" No, I treated him with courtesy and paid him for a job well done.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

If my best friend did any of those things? No.

I don't know what to tell you Hoosier. I'm not going to cut myself off from 1/2 the world because they voted for Trump. I was just on a call with my team at JBER and they were discussing the Mt McKinley thing. I'm pretty sure many on the call were Trump voters, but they were all shaking their head about the Denali renaming saying it was completely unnecessary and no one asked for it. People have varying reasons for their vote. I know yours. You know mine. Anyone else, it's likely none of our business. And I'm not in the business of making friends based on a political affiliation caveat.

The guy who cut my trees last week said (and I have no reason why), "I wonder if De Niro and those other Hollywood folks will leave our country this time!" I said, "Who knows. I guess that'll be their choice" ...as I walked back into my house. What should I have done? Yelled at him? "YOU VOTED FOR TRUMP!? GET OFF MY PROPERTY!" No, I treated him with courtesy and paid him for a job well done.

Like I said I will deal with those people because I have to. I will deal with their existence and do commerce with them because it's unavoidable.

But be friends with them. I don't think I can do that.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Like I said I will deal with those people because I have to. I will deal with their existence and do commerce with them because it's unavoidable.

But be friends with them. I don't think I can do that.

Let's just say that if I were to do what you're insinuating, I'd have to sever roughly 90% of my family and friendships. I'm from Florida and live in Texas.

For example: Here are two of my closest friends, known them since the 8th grade. The woman on the right is the widow of my late best friend who is the name-sake of my son. Both of them are wonderful people. By your mark, I should now unfriend them and part ways because they voted for Trump?

 

[Champ_Kind_whammy]

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Message to the friendless left: "It's not them, it's you".

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

Let's just say that if I were to do what you're insinuating, I'd have to sever roughly 90% of my family and friendships. I'm from Florida and live in Texas.

For example: Here are two of my closest friends, known them since the 8th grade. The woman on the right is the widow of my late best friend who is the name-sake of my son. Both of them are wonderful people. By your mark, I should now unfriend them and part ways because they voted for Trump?

Wonderful people wouldn't love a man who mocked my children and blamed me for their disabilities.

Somewhere in their heart they have either dehumanized me or thought mocking other people's children was a funny joke. But I can't suffer it quite frankly.

Pre-Trump I honestly didn't care that much, I honestly thought both sides made good points pre-Trump. That all changed.

 

[millah_22]

Let's just say that if I were to do what you're insinuating, I'd have to sever roughly 90% of my family and friendships. I'm from Florida and live in Texas.

For example: Here are two of my closest friends, known them since the 8th grade. The woman on the right is the widow of my late best friend who is the name-sake of my son. Both of them are wonderful people. By your mark, I should now unfriend them and part ways because they voted for Trump?

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[ThorneStockton]

If you talk down to people in real life like you do on here I don’t believe you have enough friends on either side to make 33%. You seem to think you’re amusing and clever at all times but mainly just condescending and smug!

I get much more of a dumb and ignorant vibe from Stanzi

 

[Champ_Kind_whammy]

If you talk down to people in real life like you do on here I don’t believe you have enough friends on either side to make 33%. You seem to think you’re amusing and clever at all times but mainly just condescending and smug!

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[Moral]

Let's just say that if I were to do what you're insinuating, I'd have to sever roughly 90% of my family and friendships. I'm from Florida and live in Texas.

For example: Here are two of my closest friends, known them since the 8th grade. The woman on the right is the widow of my late best friend who is the name-sake of my son. Both of them are wonderful people. By your mark, I should now unfriend them and part ways because they voted for Trump?

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[alaskanseminole]

Wonderful people wouldn't love a man who mocked my children and blamed me for their disabilities.

Somewhere in their heart they have either dehumanized me or thought mocking other people's children was a funny joke. But I can't suffer it quite frankly.

Pre-Trump I honestly didn't care that much, I honestly thought both sides made good points pre-Trump. That all changed.

That's assuming they 1. believe everything they see/hear. 2. see/hear everything you think they have.

I stood by the woman on the right, holding her at my best friends funeral and have known her 38 years. I'm not casting her aside based on who she voted for. I'm not finding a new mechanic based on who he voted for. Christ didn't walk around the woman at the well...he walked to her. For many, it's about the actions of the other person. For me, it's about my actions.

 

[alaskanseminole]

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I should have guessed that was coming. LOL

 

[bunsen82]

The thing for parents to do is to cut their liberal kids out of their inheritance. The lib philosophy is that families shouldn’t accumulate wealth.

You know what. I am the lib son, and there is a possibility I could get cut out my parents inheritance. Do I care . . . no. Add in the fact my wealth is higher than my parents.

 

[ThorneStockton]

I barely associate with any of my extended family, so not much has changed since the cult formed. The distinction that cousins/aunts/uncles are 'family' isn't all that impactful to me. If we were of similar age, same geographic location, similar interests and values, perhaps we would be friends, just like any other person.

Thankfully my immediate family parents/sibling are not Trumpers in the slightest. My in-laws have some conservatives in the old sense of wanting to pay as little tax as possible, certainly some Trump voters in there, but they have the decency to not talk about it, thus not truly MAGA.

I have a lot of sympathy for decent, normal people that have MAGA/Trumpers in the family. Hopefully you learned some strategies over the last several years that can be applied over the next several.

I get such a kick out of people - are they stupid? - that think these matters are simply a 'difference of opinion' or that you're ending a relationship over a vote. It's not merely just a difference of opinion, no one is ending a relationship because one person prefers sausage pizza and the other prefers pepperoni. It's not even just a difference of opinion on a contentious policy like pro life or pro choice.

It's a difference of opinion on what is reality, on whether trying to steal an election is bad, it's a difference of opinion on basic decency, what is right and what is deplorable. If we have vast differences on these things, I don't give a shit that your mother had the same mother as my mother or whatever, I want nothing to do with you.

Although not healthy for the country as a whole - who gives a shit anymore? - there are some advantages in the reorientation of the parties since Trump's takeover of the GOP: Educated, white collar, in a city? You can live your life without much known exposure to MAGAs at all.

 

[alaskanseminole]

I barely associate with any of my extended family, so not much has changed since the cult formed. The distinction that cousins/aunts/uncles are 'family' isn't all that impactful to me. If we were of similar age, same geographic location, similar interests and values, perhaps we would be friends, just like any other person.

Thankfully my immediate family parents/sibling are not Trumpers in the slightest. My in-laws have some conservatives in the old sense of wanting to pay as little tax as possible, certainly some Trump voters in there, but they have the decency to not talk about it, thus not truly MAGA.

I have a lot of sympathy for decent, normal people that have MAGA/Trumpers in the family. Hopefully you learned some strategies over the last several years that can be applied over the next several.

I get such a kick out of people - are they stupid? - that think these matters are simply a 'difference of opinion' or that you're ending a relationship over a vote. It's not merely just a difference of opinion, no one is ending a relationship because one person prefers sausage pizza and the other prefers pepperoni. It's not even just a difference of opinion on a contentious policy like pro life or pro choice.

It's a difference of opinion on what is reality, on whether trying to steal an election is bad, it's a difference of opinion on basic decency, what is right and what is deplorable. If we have vast differences on these things, I don't give a shit that your mother had the same mother as my mother or whatever, I want nothing to do with you.

Although not healthy for the country as a whole - who gives a shit anymore? - there are some advantages in the reorientation of the parties since Trump's takeover of the GOP: Educated, white collar, in a city? You can live your life without much known exposure to MAGAs at all.

I think a lot hinges on whether or not people wear their politics on their sleeve. For example, my wife's biological father is the live manifestation of H4aD. He only talks about politics, FoxNews is blasting constantly and he can make even the most inocent of conversations political. I told Mrs. Alaska, I won't be visiting again. Conversely, my friends mentioned above, I'd have never known they voted for Trump had they not put something in their feed the day of the Inauguration.

 

[ThorneStockton]

I think a lot hinges on whether or not people wear their politics on their sleeve. For example, my wife's biological father is the live manifestation of H4aD. He only talks about politics, FoxNews is blasting constantly and he can make even the most inocent of conversations political. I told Mrs. Alaska, I won't be visiting again. Conversely, my friends mentioned above, I'd have never known they voted for Trump had they not put something in their feed the day of the Inauguration.

I reckon if you have the self and situational awareness to not let it be known you're a Trumper, you're not really a Trumper at all. Part of being a Trumper is embracing the nastiness, being loud and proud about it, making it part of your identity, everything is filtered through a MAGA lens. Everything.

Simply voting - or a good faith message of support on social media - is not the same as being in the cult. But, I suspect someone like Chis would view it differently.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Simply voting - or a good faith message of support on social media - is not the same as being in the cult. But, I suspect someone like Chis would view it differently.

Now you've gone and done it.

 

[Chishawk1425]

I reckon if you have the self and situational awareness to not let it be known you're a Trumper, you're not really a Trumper at all. Part of being a Trumper is embracing the nastiness, being loud and proud about it, making it part of your identity, everything is filtered through a MAGA lens. Everything.

Simply voting - or a good faith message of support on social media - is not the same as being in the cult. But, I suspect someone like Chis would view it differently.

Voting for Trump again after all we know is impossible to defend and speaks volumes about the voter. Thanks for checking in with me.

 

[alaskanseminole]

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@ThorneStockton

 

[Chishawk1425]

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@ThorneStockton

I was tame and accurate.

 

[alaskanseminole]

I was tame and accurate.

You did well.

 

[NorthEndzoneCrew]

Trump didn't break it. The media has pushed lies and fear and people like you bought into it.

Oh sure…sure

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

You don't get it at all. It’s not about who people voted for, it's actually not even about politics. It's about what people stand for and their character. There will always be evil people in the world and how they become a leader varies. Some come to power through politics, others religion, or music, or sports, etc. No matter what, they all get their power by having people believe and follow them. They are really nothing without the followers. They accomplish nothing without the followers. Anything they do (that may seem positive) is based on getting more followers, or money, or fame. So the dispute between MAGA and non-MAGA is not politics, its about right and wrong, it's about a persons character, it's about who your are as a person. That's why people lose respect for others, that's why people don't talk, it’s because most people want to communicate with someone with a similar character.

Well said.