B1G Seeding Scenarios

[goiahawkeyes]

Like many of you I'm eagerly awaiting the B1G's and that got me thinking about seedings and what remaining matches could affect the current seeding. Below is a rough idea of how I think seedings could look and what's left to be wrestled at each weight. This is just something to spark up conversation...nothing more.


125
1. Tomasello
2. Gilman
3. Megaludis
4. Lambert

Getting the top seed is a HUGE benefit at 125. The top seed will likely cruise to the finals, where the 2 & 3 seeds will likely have a very challenging semi and finals match. Tomasello holds the top seed based on last year’s national championship and undefeated B1G season, but Gilman and Megaludis are on his heels. Tomasello and Megaludis should meet up in their 2/5 dual which will be the first, and likely only B1G loss, for one of these guys. Gilman has two more B1G opponents but should cruise in both finishing undefeated in B1G competition. If Tomasello and Gilman win out then the seedings should remain as is, but if Megaludis gets the win over Tomasello then I’d have to give Gilman the top spot followed by Megaludis and Tomasello. This would be HUGE as Gilman should cruise to the B1G finals and face the winner of Tomasello/Megaludis semi.


What to watch for: Tomasello vs Megaludis (2/5)

What’s at stake? #1 seed in NCAA tournament


133
1. Richards
2. Clark
3. Conaway
4. Montoya
5. DiJulius

I don’t see much happening at this weight to really shake up the current standings unless Taylor or Montoya were to upset Richards in the next week. Conaway and DiJulius will be a good match but I don’t see that outcome really impacting the seedings. Taylor for Wisconsin is the sleeper here as he hasn’t had many matches yet this season, but we all know what he’s capable of when healthy. As long as Clark is seeded in the top 3 (which he should) I like him to make the finals to set up a rematch with Richards.

What to watch for: Richards vs Taylor (1/31), Richards vs Montoya (2/5)

What’s at stake? Top 2 seed at NCAA tournament


141
1. Jordan
2. Thorn
3. Ashnault
4. Abidin
5. Grothus

Jordan’s lone loss on the season is out of conference and I don’t see him losing to Weaver, Sabatello, Guilibon or Rowh to end the season, so I feel pretty comfortable giving him the 1 seed. Thorn whooped Ashnault so they file in with the 2 & 3 seeds followed by Abidin at the 4. Now this is where it gets interesting. I believe Grothus could slot in nicely at the 5 seed, but to do so he HAS to wrestle Thorn this week. That’d be a good win for Brody and then he’d be able to end the B1G season with a win against Indiana. If Brody beats Thorn I don’t see why he couldn’t have the 5 seed. If Grothus loses or doesn’t wrestle against Thorn then I think that opens the door for guys like Hall, Gasca and Guilibon to claim the 5 seed.


What to watch for: Grothus vs Thorn (1/29)

What’s at stake? Top 4 seed at NCAA tournament


149
1. Retherford
2. Sorenson
3. Tsirtsis
4. Sueflohn
5. Pantaleo
6. Stieber

The top 5 seeds are pretty well solidified here. I don’t see Retherford losing to Stieber, but it could be a good match if Stieber can quickly get back to the way he wrestled in the PanAms two years ago. Sorenson should cruise in his last 2 B1G matches to stay at the #2 seed, but has a legitimate argument to be the 1 seed with his undefeated record. Tsirtsis and Sueflohn meet up in a couple weeks to figure out who will be the 3-4 seeds. Pantaleo has beaten Stieber, but will likely take a couple losses to Tsirtsis and Retherford to open the door for Stieber to step into the 5 seed.

What to watch for: Tsirtsis vs Sueflohn (2/12), Stieber vs Retherford (2/5)

What’s at stake? #1 seed in NCAA tournament / 3 of the top 5 Seeds at NCAA tournament


157
1. Nolf
2. Martinez
3. Ryan
4. Lewis
5. Cooper

The top 3 slots are pretty solid at 157. Brian Murphy has been up and down, but if he’s healthy he’s an All American caliber guy. Lewis, Cooper, Murphy and Mascola will be battling for the 4-7 seeds so those 4 have a lot riding on the next month of duals.

What to watch for: Nolf vs Ryan (2/5), Murphy vs Nolf (1/31), Murphy vs Lewis (2/7)

What’s at stake? #1 seed at NCAA Tournament


165
1. Jordan, OSU
2. Jordan, WI
3. Rodrigues
4. Perrotti
5. Rasheed
6. Welch

There’s still A LOT of important matches at 165. Isaac Jordan has the most to prove over the next couple of weeks with matches against, Rodrigues, Perrotti, and cousin Bo. Bo Jordan should be a lock for the top seed but he still has to face Welch and Rasheed as well as Isaac. Rodrigues could bump up into the 2 spot if he can finish strong against Isaac and Austin Wilson of Nebraska. For Iowa, the damage has already been done. No good wins to write about. Whoever Iowa sends out there needs to wrestle their absolute best to qualify for NCAAs.

What to watch for: I. Jordan vs Rodrigues (1/31), I. Jordan vs Perrotti (2/5), I Jordan vs B. Jordan (2/12)

What’s at stake? 2 & 3 seeds at NCAA Tournament


174
1. Nickal
2. Meyer
3. Brunson
4. Jackson
5. Martin

Nickal is pretty much a lock for the #1 seed and deservedly so. The thing watch over the next few weeks is how the 2-5 seeds perform to end the regular season. Meyer, Brunson, Jackson and Martin all have something to prove after up and down performances.

What to watch for: Meyer vs Jackson (2/5), Martin vs Jackson (1/29)

What’s at stake? #1 seed at NCAA Tournament (Nickal only)


184
1. Abounader
2. Brooks
3. Dudley
4. McCuthceon
5. Courts

Abounader is the front runner for the #1 seed as long as he doesn’t suffer a hiccup with McCutheon or Gravina to end the season. Brooks’ loss to Dudley hurt, but I don’t think it hurt that bad. I believe his 1 B1G loss is a better resume than Dudley’s 2 B1G losses. If McCutheon is healthy and can upset Abounader then I believe Brooks has a chance at getting the #1 seed. If not, then he’ll likely get his rematch with Dudley in the B1G semis….in Carver.

What to watch for: McCuthceon’s injury, Abounader vs McCutheon (1/31)

What’s at stake? 3-4 seed at NCAA Tournament


197
1. McIntosh
2. Burak
3. Pfarr
4. Huntley
5. Studebaker

Right now it’s looking like McIntosh will get the top seed after going undefeated in B1G competition. He squeaked out a 1 point win over Pfarr and needed OT to beat Studebaker 2-1. Burak and Pfarr this week will be a HUGE match. Winner will likely get the 2 seed, but if Burak can win convincingly then he might be able to steal the 1 seed. Huntley is having a really good year. He still has to wrestle McIntosh, if he can pull of the upset that’d be huge for Burak.

What to watch for: McIntosh vs Huntley (1/31), Burak vs Pfarr (1/29)

What’s at stake? #1 seed at NCAA Tournament, 3 top 5 seeds at NCAA Tournament


Hwt
1. Coon
2. Snyder
3. Stoll
4. Kroells
5. Smith

Coon should get the top seed being the returning NCAA runner-up and being undefeated. The 2-3 seeds are where it gets a little tricky. On one hand Snyder could be 5-0 in B1G matches if he wrestles every dual and being the runner-up at 197 could be enough to justify getting the 2 seed. On the other hand if Stoll beats Kroells this weekend then he could justifiably be the 2 seed with an undefeated B1G record and 19 wins on the season, only losing to Marsden and Gwiz. Either way a Snyder vs Coon B1G championship should be pretty great to watch, unless Stoll has something to say about it.

What to watch for: Stoll vs Kroells (1/29), Black vs Kroells (2/12)

What’s at stake: 2 seed at NCAA Tournament

 

[burnsie1983]

Agree for the most part. I think if Megaludis beats NaTo (I'm not predicting that) that he may get the number 1 seed only because he'd have the more impressive B1G resume.

Brooks over Dudley over McCutcheon at 184 seems a bit backwards to me, at least in light of the recent dual results. But as you said, McCutcheon has to get healthy for that to even matter.

 

[goiahawkeyes]

Agree for the most part. I think if Megaludis beats NaTo (I'm not predicting that) that he may get the number 1 seed only because he'd have the more impressive B1G resume.

Brooks over Dudley over McCutcheon at 184 seems a bit backwards to me, at least in light of the recent dual results. But as you said, McCutcheon has to get healthy for that to even matter.

I have no issue with Mega getting the 1 seed if he beats Tomasello.

I know it seems weird that Brooks could be seeded ahead of Dudley after he just got stuck by him, but Dudley has losses to McCutcheon and Gravina, as well as Dean and Taylor (doesn't count). Where Brooks's only losses are to Dudley and Taylor (doesn't count).

 

[Ihawkd9times]

I expect Nico to beat TOMA and Gilman gets the #1 seed.

But a question. With the Nat Duals coming up there is a chance some of these guys face each other which wouldnt of happened with the regular BIGTEN scheduling. Will say a Nico vs Gilman Nat Duals match have any barring on the BIG seeds or will it just be ignored and the seeding is in conference matches only?

I know the NCAA will factor these match ups in but I was under the impression the BIG seedings play blind to this? Is that correct?

 

[goiahawkeyes]

Good question. It's my understanding that the best B1G schools will wrestle the best non-B1G schools. I don't think it's the typical bracketed tournament so I don't think any B1G teams will actually meet. It's more like the bowl games rather than the playoffs.

 

[HawkTalk3]

I expect Nico to beat TOMA and Gilman gets the #1 seed.

But a question. With the Nat Duals coming up there is a chance some of these guys face each other which wouldnt of happened with the regular BIGTEN scheduling. Will say a Nico vs Gilman Nat Duals match have any barring on the BIG seeds or will it just be ignored and the seeding is in conference matches only?

I know the NCAA will factor these match ups in but I was under the impression the BIG seedings play blind to this? Is that correct?

The National Duals system is like the old NCAA football bowl system. So it's pretty much Big Ten vs the World and the "bowl system" comes into play that it's eight duals with no bracket system. So it won't matter if Penn State and Iowa win out, only one will get to go for the National Duals title.

 

[OL119]

I have no issue with Mega getting the 1 seed if he beats Tomasello.

I know it seems weird that Brooks could be seeded ahead of Dudley after he just got stuck by him, but Dudley has losses to McCutcheon and Gravina, as well as Dean and Taylor (doesn't count). Where Brooks's only losses are to Dudley and Taylor (doesn't count).

Brooks has a loss to Zilmer also.

 

[goiahawkeyes]

Brooks has a loss to Zilmer also.

Yep, that's correct. Brooks has 1 B1G loss compared to Dudley's 2 B1G losses.

 

[Actiondouble]

Thanks for the scenarios. Agree except for Brooksie.

 

[Ihawkd9times]

The National Duals system is like the old NCAA football bowl system. So it's pretty much Big Ten vs the World and the "bowl system" comes into play that it's eight duals with no bracket system. So it won't matter if Penn State and Iowa win out, only one will get to go for the National Duals title.

Ok I just googled it.

Top-ranked Penn State (10-0), No. 2 Iowa (11-0), No. 3 North Carolina State (17-0) and No. 4 Missouri (9-0) are leading the charge to the 2016 NWCA Division I Championship Dual Series to be held on Sunday, Feb. 21 on the campuses of eight host Big Ten schools.

“The concept is similar to the bowl game series in football,” NWCA President Mark Cody explained of the new format for the national championship dual meet series. "This format was developed by the Division I wrestling coaches and the NWCA’s role is to ensure that it gets off the ground. This is a new concept and due to some pre-existing scheduling conflicts, there may be a few teams that qualify but are unable to participate this year. We hope to provide the very short list of teams that are unable to participate by the end of next week."

“Nevertheless, our goal is to have the top eight ranked Big Ten schools host a “non BigTen” opponent with one of the duals determining the national dual meet title,” said Cody.

The idea is to match the top eight Big Ten programs (seven are currently ranked in the Top 13) against the dual meet champions from the seven other Division I conferences. There will be one at-large team selected based on their national ranking even though they didn’t win the dual meet championship of their conference.

Even though it’s not a true “team tournament,” the idea of a dual meet national champion is well received.

 

[Ihawkd9times]

I got to admit its pretty f'n stupid concept unless i am missing something??. So basically PSU is automatically in the Championship after they trounce say an ISU or Oklahoma. And wouldnt matter what Iowa does and on the other side PSU then gets whoever is higher ranked between Mizzou, Ok State and NC state. depending on who wants to wrestle in this.

the NWCA just seems like it is trying desperatly to throw anything against the wall but yet cant get out of its own way even at that. They have already made the All Star meet a pathetic version of itself.

Edit sorry just saw the other thread. Its such a sweet event and I am so excited for it that I didnt even feel the need to click on the thread which is been up for awhile now. Think about that for a sec. I click on like 90% of the threads that pop up and didnt care about that one.

 

[burnsie1983]

I have no issue with Mega getting the 1 seed if he beats Tomasello.

I know it seems weird that Brooks could be seeded ahead of Dudley after he just got stuck by him, but Dudley has losses to McCutcheon and Gravina, as well as Dean and Taylor (doesn't count). Where Brooks's only losses are to Dudley and Taylor (doesn't count).

I forgot Dudley lost to Gravina, so he would stay below Brooks. McCutcheon could still finish ahead, if he's healthy, and even if he loses to Abounader. Does his MFF to Koepke count?

 

[goiahawkeyes]

I forgot Dudley lost to Gravina, so he would stay below Brooks. McCutcheon could still finish ahead, if he's healthy, and even if he loses to Abounader. Does his MFF to Koepke count?

Yeah I'm pretty sure once the match starts, it counts as a loss

 

[burnsie1983]

There really is no bracket at all for the dual championships. Every team that competes will have one match. It's the highest ranked B1G team vs the highest ranked champ from the other conferences. Then the second ranked B1G team vs the second highest ranked Conference champ... Etc etc.

Very flawed system.

 

[Ihawkd9times]

There really is no bracket at all for the dual championships. Every team that competes will have one match. It's the highest ranked B1G team vs the highest ranked champ from the other conferences. Then the second ranked B1G team vs the second highest ranked Conference champ... Etc etc.

Very flawed system.

Yep. So basically the only teams capable of beating PSU in a dual would be Ohio St or Iowa. Ohio St sneakingly matches up well in a dual vs PSU.

Ok state whipped mizzou so basically they only teams that could beat them are PSU, Iowa and Ohio St.

What should really happen is take the top 4 teams and seed them regardless of conference or if you want that Big ten vs World thing then wrestle Iowa vs PSU winner vs say OK St vs NC State winner. Id say Mizzou but it just happened. Really should be PSU vs OK st winner takes on Iowa vs Ohio St winner.

Or just cancel this stupid event and let Iowa and PSU meet up somewhere which would bring more fans what the Nat Duals will even see anyway. Its what the fans want.

 

[Omahahawk86]

Like many of you I'm eagerly awaiting the B1G's and that got me thinking about seedings and what remaining matches could affect the current seeding. Below is a rough idea of how I think seedings could look and what's left to be wrestled at each weight. This is just something to spark up conversation...nothing more.


125
1. Tomasello
2. Gilman
3. Megaludis
4. Lambert

Getting the top seed is a HUGE benefit at 125. The top seed will likely cruise to the finals, where the 2 & 3 seeds will likely have a very challenging semi and finals match. Tomasello holds the top seed based on last year’s national championship and undefeated B1G season, but Gilman and Megaludis are on his heels. Tomasello and Megaludis should meet up in their 2/5 dual which will be the first, and likely only B1G loss, for one of these guys. Gilman has two more B1G opponents but should cruise in both finishing undefeated in B1G competition. If Tomasello and Gilman win out then the seedings should remain as is, but if Megaludis gets the win over Tomasello then I’d have to give Gilman the top spot followed by Megaludis and Tomasello. This would be HUGE as Gilman should cruise to the B1G finals and face the winner of Tomasello/Megaludis semi.


What to watch for: Tomasello vs Megaludis (2/5)

What’s at stake? #1 seed in NCAA tournament


133
1. Richards
2. Clark
3. Conaway
4. Montoya
5. DiJulius

I don’t see much happening at this weight to really shake up the current standings unless Taylor or Montoya were to upset Richards in the next week. Conaway and DiJulius will be a good match but I don’t see that outcome really impacting the seedings. Taylor for Wisconsin is the sleeper here as he hasn’t had many matches yet this season, but we all know what he’s capable of when healthy. As long as Clark is seeded in the top 3 (which he should) I like him to make the finals to set up a rematch with Richards.

What to watch for: Richards vs Taylor (1/31), Richards vs Montoya (2/5)

What’s at stake? Top 2 seed at NCAA tournament


141
1. Jordan
2. Thorn
3. Ashnault
4. Abidin
5. Grothus

Jordan’s lone loss on the season is out of conference and I don’t see him losing to Weaver, Sabatello, Guilibon or Rowh to end the season, so I feel pretty comfortable giving him the 1 seed. Thorn whooped Ashnault so they file in with the 2 & 3 seeds followed by Abidin at the 4. Now this is where it gets interesting. I believe Grothus could slot in nicely at the 5 seed, but to do so he HAS to wrestle Thorn this week. That’d be a good win for Brody and then he’d be able to end the B1G season with a win against Indiana. If Brody beats Thorn I don’t see why he couldn’t have the 5 seed. If Grothus loses or doesn’t wrestle against Thorn then I think that opens the door for guys like Hall, Gasca and Guilibon to claim the 5 seed.


What to watch for: Grothus vs Thorn (1/29)

What’s at stake? Top 4 seed at NCAA tournament


149
1. Retherford
2. Sorenson
3. Tsirtsis
4. Sueflohn
5. Pantaleo
6. Stieber

The top 5 seeds are pretty well solidified here. I don’t see Retherford losing to Stieber, but it could be a good match if Stieber can quickly get back to the way he wrestled in the PanAms two years ago. Sorenson should cruise in his last 2 B1G matches to stay at the #2 seed, but has a legitimate argument to be the 1 seed with his undefeated record. Tsirtsis and Sueflohn meet up in a couple weeks to figure out who will be the 3-4 seeds. Pantaleo has beaten Stieber, but will likely take a couple losses to Tsirtsis and Retherford to open the door for Stieber to step into the 5 seed.

What to watch for: Tsirtsis vs Sueflohn (2/12), Stieber vs Retherford (2/5)

What’s at stake? #1 seed in NCAA tournament / 3 of the top 5 Seeds at NCAA tournament


157
1. Nolf
2. Martinez
3. Ryan
4. Lewis
5. Cooper

The top 3 slots are pretty solid at 157. Brian Murphy has been up and down, but if he’s healthy he’s an All American caliber guy. Lewis, Cooper, Murphy and Mascola will be battling for the 4-7 seeds so those 4 have a lot riding on the next month of duals.

What to watch for: Nolf vs Ryan (2/5), Murphy vs Nolf (1/31), Murphy vs Lewis (2/7)

What’s at stake? #1 seed at NCAA Tournament


165
1. Jordan, OSU
2. Jordan, WI
3. Rodrigues
4. Perrotti
5. Rasheed
6. Welch

There’s still A LOT of important matches at 165. Isaac Jordan has the most to prove over the next couple of weeks with matches against, Rodrigues, Perrotti, and cousin Bo. Bo Jordan should be a lock for the top seed but he still has to face Welch and Rasheed as well as Isaac. Rodrigues could bump up into the 2 spot if he can finish strong against Isaac and Austin Wilson of Nebraska. For Iowa, the damage has already been done. No good wins to write about. Whoever Iowa sends out there needs to wrestle their absolute best to qualify for NCAAs.

What to watch for: I. Jordan vs Rodrigues (1/31), I. Jordan vs Perrotti (2/5), I Jordan vs B. Jordan (2/12)

What’s at stake? 2 & 3 seeds at NCAA Tournament


174
1. Nickal
2. Meyer
3. Brunson
4. Jackson
5. Martin

Nickal is pretty much a lock for the #1 seed and deservedly so. The thing watch over the next few weeks is how the 2-5 seeds perform to end the regular season. Meyer, Brunson, Jackson and Martin all have something to prove after up and down performances.

What to watch for: Meyer vs Jackson (2/5), Martin vs Jackson (1/29)

What’s at stake? #1 seed at NCAA Tournament (Nickal only)


184
1. Abounader
2. Brooks
3. Dudley
4. McCuthceon
5. Courts

Abounader is the front runner for the #1 seed as long as he doesn’t suffer a hiccup with McCutheon or Gravina to end the season. Brooks’ loss to Dudley hurt, but I don’t think it hurt that bad. I believe his 1 B1G loss is a better resume than Dudley’s 2 B1G losses. If McCutheon is healthy and can upset Abounader then I believe Brooks has a chance at getting the #1 seed. If not, then he’ll likely get his rematch with Dudley in the B1G semis….in Carver.

What to watch for: McCuthceon’s injury, Abounader vs McCutheon (1/31)

What’s at stake? 3-4 seed at NCAA Tournament


197
1. McIntosh
2. Burak
3. Pfarr
4. Huntley
5. Studebaker

Right now it’s looking like McIntosh will get the top seed after going undefeated in B1G competition. He squeaked out a 1 point win over Pfarr and needed OT to beat Studebaker 2-1. Burak and Pfarr this week will be a HUGE match. Winner will likely get the 2 seed, but if Burak can win convincingly then he might be able to steal the 1 seed. Huntley is having a really good year. He still has to wrestle McIntosh, if he can pull of the upset that’d be huge for Burak.

What to watch for: McIntosh vs Huntley (1/31), Burak vs Pfarr (1/29)

What’s at stake? #1 seed at NCAA Tournament, 3 top 5 seeds at NCAA Tournament


Hwt
1. Coon
2. Snyder
3. Stoll
4. Kroells
5. Smith

Coon should get the top seed being the returning NCAA runner-up and being undefeated. The 2-3 seeds are where it gets a little tricky. On one hand Snyder could be 5-0 in B1G matches if he wrestles every dual and being the runner-up at 197 could be enough to justify getting the 2 seed. On the other hand if Stoll beats Kroells this weekend then he could justifiably be the 2 seed with an undefeated B1G record and 19 wins on the season, only losing to Marsden and Gwiz. Either way a Snyder vs Coon B1G championship should be pretty great to watch, unless Stoll has something to say about it.

What to watch for: Stoll vs Kroells (1/29), Black vs Kroells (2/12)

What’s at stake: 2 seed at NCAA Tournament

First off awesome post.

25-if nico beats nato Gman gets the one seed bc of nicos loss to dance.
41--it's really a crap shoot outside of Jordan. Abidins win over Thorn has to come into play somewhere. If Brody can beat Thorn and win a cupcake match vs Weaver were in business.
49-Sorenson should be 1 seed. 2015 4th place at 149 >2014 5th at 141
74-Nickal has to wrestle Martin again. He barely beat him 4-3 a month ago. If Meyer beats Jackson and Martin beats Nickal then Meyer should get the 1 seed.
84-I think Brooks and Dudley are 2-3 seed either way. Even if Sammy wins I think best case scenario seed is 6. If he finishes 2nd or lower looking more like 8-11.
Hwt- who knows what they'll do with Snyder. 3rd at the big ten would be great for Stoll. I think we'd get the 6 seed at nationals with that.

 

[vanhawkman]

We start weeding through these scenarios in a day, boys! Hope that you can make it!! Burak and Stoll win, calling it. I did see that Martin wrestled Nickal tough, but I have to say that with the tear he's been on lately, I think Nickal wins convincingly and sews up the #1.

 

[LutherAce]

Can we just reiterate the point that losses outside of the B1G season have very little affect on seeding at the B1G?

Nico's loss to Dance does not matter if Nico beats Nato. It will appear that Nico beat #1, who happens to be in the B1G and will probably get the #1 seed at B1G.

 

[Ihawkd9times]

Can we just reiterate the point that losses outside of the B1G season have very little affect on seeding at the B1G?

Nico's loss to Dance does not matter if Nico beats Nato. It will appear that Nico beat #1, who happens to be in the B1G and will probably get the #1 seed at B1G.

Maybe so but Gilman dont give a F!

Roll out TOMA in the semi's and Nico in the finals. Just a chance for Gilman to beat both and let them know that going into NCAA's.

All year ive only been happy with how 3 of our guys have consistantly looked every time out. Gilman, Burak, Stoll are doing what they are suppose to be doing.. And with that being said only Gilman of those 3 have a ceiling that can and will beat anyone in his weight class. He has been the most machine like, ruthless, get yours each time out on this team. He is the only big star on this team being selfish enough. So bring on either NATO or Nico in whatever order. F'em!

 

[Omahahawk86]

Can we just reiterate the point that losses outside of the B1G season have very little affect on seeding at the B1G?

Nico's loss to Dance does not matter if Nico beats Nato. It will appear that Nico beat #1, who happens to be in the B1G and will probably get the #1 seed at B1G.

Then Meyers is the one seed then right?

 

[Ihawkd9times]

Then Meyers is the one seed then right?

Could very well happen but judging by Meyer lately the Jackson match is a toss up he will lose. Then he would fall in seeding a few spots. Hopefully whatever is going on with Meyer (confidence since midlands?) gets ironed out.

 

[Vallholl]

Then Meyers is the one seed then right?

And Foley's mailbag explodes.

 

[IrishinGA]

Bump

 

[Vallholl]

bump

 

[LaxHawk174]

I think Iowa has a great chance to win B1G's this year. Setting up for a good NCAA tournament

I think we'll have finalists at 125, 133, 149, 174, 184, 197, and 285. Grothus could also be a darkhorse candidate if he keeps improving at every time out like he has been.

I like Gilman, Clark, and Brooks as champs.

Gilman over Nico and Tomasello I think Gilman gets revenge on both of these guys for losing the last meeting to both of them.

Clark over Richards. ^Ditto. He is looking much better now than when he first came back from injury against Richards, starting to look like the NCAA finalist Clark again.

Retherford over Sorensen , but i eagerly await this matchup feels kind of like a David Taylor - St. John type matchup in terms of the numbers they put up.

Nickal over Meyer, think Nickal may be a little too slick for Meyer, but he'll be in the match. Meyer may have a rematch with Jackson in the semis or Brunson, whoever is the 4 seed. Martin could be a potential tough matchup if hes a 5 seed.

Brooks over Dudley and McCutcheon or Abounader. Brooks has to wrestle smart against Dudley and in the finals.

McIntosh over Burak, but gets revenge on Pfarr in the semis. Burak looks great, so does McIntosh, and McIntosh has had Buraks number. He does have the ability to win though.

Snyder or Coon over Stoll in semis, I think Stoll will be in the match but Coon just a little better at this point in time and Snyder I think will be too good. Did any of us think Sam would be a favorite for AA right out of the gate based on the RS year? Wow he may be our most improved wrestler, looks like a wily veteran as a RS Frosh, might just replicate Big Bobbys B1G and NCAA points as well.

Brody would have to beat some combination of Ashnault, Jordan, Thorn, Gulibon, and Abidin to make the finals as those will likely be the top 5 seeds. He can do it, but its not gonna be easy. Still think he qualifies and no worse than 6th.

Then we've hopefully got Coop cashing in on a 4th place finish, hes the 4th highest ranked B1G wrestler.

Rhoads can hopefully win a few matches and qualify. very tough 165 in the B1G. #2-7 ranked wrestlers Jordan, Jordan, Rodrigues, Perrotti, Welch, Wilson, and #11 Rasheed or Morelli. I don't think Rhoads beats any of those guys. I'm not sure how many AQ this weight class will have at B1Gs.

I don't think that is all that unrealistic for any of these guys, and I do believe that would be enough to win it.

 

[Omahahawk86]

Gillman 2 seed
Clark 2 seed
Brody who knows. The guy he beat tonight was the back up. I hope Jordan gets the one seed and Brody draws him first round. He's very beatable and have similar body styles. I think he'll match up well. Then he takes the one seed . I'll guess he gets the 6 seed
Sorenson I think he's the one seed.
57-cooper. He could be anywhere from 3-6.
65-8 seed?
74-1 or 2.
84-anywhere from 2-4. I hope he gets the 4 so he has a semis with abounader who he has no excuse to lose to.
97-3 seed
Hwt-3 seed.

 

[LaxHawk174]

Wait I completely forgot about Snyder at heavyweight. I think Stoll takes 3rd in this weight class behind Snyder and Coon.

 

[JohnBasedow]

I would rather have Brody draw Guilbon first round.

 

[Omahahawk86]

That's fine too. Id rather have him avoid abidin, ashnault, and Thorn first round.

 

[Vallholl]

Interested in seeing some updates seeding predictions for big tens. Maybe start with 141 and 174? Hint hint.

We will be your best friend.

 

[Spoons]

125: will be Tomatoe, Meg & Gilman
133: pretty self forward.
141: who knows outside of Jordan at 1its anybody's guess.
149: BS will get the 1 due to being highest returning undefeated 149lber. Might not be right in some minds but that's the way it will be. After Retherford at 2 a lot is up for debate.
157: Pretty easily to see how this will go.
165: See 157
174: Meyer just earned the 1 seed undefeated Big season wins out over Nickal's year for now.
184: hard to say after Abounader but I like Brooks at 3 or 4.
197: pretty simple to figure
Hwt: Coon probably gets the 1 see 149 after that Snyder & Stoll should follow.

 

[LutherAce]

So, i'm sure this is wrong and there are still some duals to go, but early look at seeds/placing. I didn't go through everyone after 6-7 spots, just by what wrestlestat had in order so i'm sure the lower seeds don't really matter...

 

[Vallholl]

I like it, Luther Ace, do a job "half way" and then somebody else comes in and fixes it. That’s how I do all my household jobs.

Anyway, I am sure this is wrong, so if anyone….

141
Jordan OSU 7-0
Thorn MN 6-1
Ashnault RU 6-1 (lost to Thorn HtoH)
Abidin NU 8-4 (included tournaments)
Gasca MSU 5-3 (including loss to Moss at SS)
Oster NW 2-1 (has Ervin, Abidin, + WI left)
Gulibon PSU 3-1 (+ lost to MI redshirt at SS)
Moss PSU 3-1 (+ a win out of conference)
Ervin IL 2-3
Sabatello 2-6 (win over Abidin @ Tournament)
Bannister MD 1-5
Fisher MI 1-5 (win was a Fft at NW)

For Iowa in B1G this year.
Ryan 0-1 (lost to MD)
Carton 3-2 (lost to NU / RU)
Grothus 2-1 (lost to MN)

If I had to guess, the seeds would be the following:
1) Jordan
2) Thorn
3) Ashnault
4) Abidin
5) Gulibon
6) Grothus/ Gasca- both have a win over Sabetello and Grothus lost to Thorn while Gasca lost to Oster and Ashnault.
7) Gasca/ Grothus/Oster
8) Oster

 

[UndercoverHawk]

I like it, Luther Ace, do a job "half way" and then somebody else comes in and fixes it. That’s how I do all my household jobs.

Anyway, I am sure this is wrong, so if anyone….

141
Jordan OSU 7-0
Thorn MN 6-1
Ashnault RU 6-1 (lost to Thorn HtoH)
Abidin NU 8-4 (included tournaments)
Gasca MSU 5-3 (including loss to Moss at SS)
Oster NW 2-1 (has Ervin, Abidin, + WI left)
Gulibon PSU 3-1 (+ lost to MI redshirt at SS)
Moss PSU 3-1 (+ a win out of conference)
Ervin IL 2-3
Sabatello 2-6 (win over Abidin @ Tournament)
Bannister MD 1-5
Fisher MI 1-5 (win was a Fft at NW)

For Iowa in B1G this year.
Ryan 0-1 (lost to MD)
Carton 3-2 (lost to NU / RU)
Grothus 2-1 (lost to MN)

If I had to guess, the seeds would be the following:
1) Jordan
2) Thorn
3) Ashnault
4) Abidin
5) Gulibon
6) Grothus/ Gasca- both have a win over Sabetello and Grothus lost to Thorn while Gasca lost to Oster and Ashnault.
7) Gasca/ Grothus
8) Sabatello

The way ashnault tore apart Turk, I would rather have Brody at 7 so he can beat thorn first.

 

[LutherAce]

I like it, Luther Ace, do a job "half way" and then somebody else comes in and fixes it. That’s how I do all my household jobs.

if i mess it up really bad the first time, i don't get asked to do it again...

 

[Omahahawk86]

Lets get that 8 seed!

Grothus beats Jordan!

Jordan doesn't AA

Write them both down

 

[Cali_Nittany]

Lets get that 8 seed!

Grothus beats Jordan!

Jordan doesn't AA

Write them both down

I'll cheer for that.

 

[Omahahawk86]

I'll cheer for that.

We can't be friends. Mccutchen doesn't AA neither does Guilbon. You still beat us. Nolf scored 212 points on his own.

 

[Cali_Nittany]

We can't be friends. Mccutchen doesn't AA neither does Guilbon. You still beat us. Nolf scored 212 points on his own.

Iowa is looking stronger this year than the last few years. Your team worries me more than anyone else by far. I really think it's just a 2 team race. I think several OSU wrestlers will lose early and tOSU will finish ahead of them for 3rd. And Minnesota will finish 26th (yes, that was gratuitous).

 

[Cali_Nittany]

Iowa is looking stronger this year than the last few years. Your team worries me more than anyone else by far. I really think it's just a 2 team race. I think several OSU wrestlers will lose early and tOSU will finish ahead of them for 3rd. And Minnesota will finish 26th (yes, that was gratuitous).

Maybe I need to walk back my OSU prediction with Boyd upsetting Dean just now.