Belief in God in U.S. dips to 81%, a new low
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I don’t think there is a god but I’m not sure what happens after death. Some NDEs (near death experience) stories are wild to me and idk how that can be explained. Like when a person is legally dead but they can see what is happening from a far but that would be physically and mentally impossible under such circumstances. There is definitely a higher being within the cosmos but I don’t know if that has any impact with us.
I am in the camp of Live your best life, treat people with respect in real life (not HORT), and just be a good person. Whatever happens after death then I guess we will see. 🤷🏽♂️
I am in the camp of Live your best life, treat people with respect in real life (not HORT), and just be a good person. Whatever happens after death then I guess we will see. 🤷🏽♂️
NDE can be trigger from certain drug use. (not because you're actually dying)
Brains be weird.
As the evangelicals cause so many of the problems.
Except the high likelihood you’re wrong
*Act as though you believe.
Because apparently an all knowing all powerful being is bamboozled by such a maneuver.
Pretty sure means you have doubts. A doubt is also a choice he won’t like.I'm pretty sure I'm not wrong.
Jesus said His followers would receive a reward in this life in the next.
Matthew 19:27-29
New American Standard Bible
The Disciples’ Reward
Then Peter responded and said to Him, “Behold, we have left everything and followed You; what then will there be for us?” And Jesus said to them, “Truly I say to you, that you who have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of Man will sit on His glorious throne, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or farms on account of My name, will receive many times as much, and will inherit eternal life."
We all have doubts sometimes. I still go to Church and try my best.
Isn't that better than rejecting God completely as an atheist or agnostic?
So if someone, say, 80% confident there is no God takes up Paschal's Wager and goes through the motions, God will reward them?
It's been a while, but this was one of the first to pop up in my search: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.01424/full
Near Death are often in the same category of thing -- maybe even the same -- as out of body, which I know certain drugs will invoke.
Again you don’t know what agnostic means. Just means without knowledge that god exist or not. Not the same as atheist.
It's about belief.
An agnostic is non-committed. They don't believe or disbelieve.
It's a cop out.
“This study has significant weaknesses because it is based on purely subjective reports—some taken decades after the event. Similarly, there is no way to substantiate the accounts in the Erowid collection as there is no way to prove that any individual took the drug they claimed or believed they were taking.”
Aka this gives us an idea but not really. I get the ketamine comparisons but it still doesn’t explain the unexplainable 🤷🏽♂️
well said sir, I am however atheist I in no way mean to discredit your belief structure but and it's a big hairy butt I am not trying to make laws based upon my religious beliefs as those of your folks seem to feel is ok.We have to choose because remaining agnostic is basically rejecting God. It's just sitting on the fence and refusing to choose.
I am Catholic.
Yes.
Christianity is literally a religion based on eternal reward in Heaven. Read "The Story of the Prodigal Son."
Dunno sir.
Many atheists are trying their best to eliminate God from the public square.
I know what an agnostic is.
It's someone that doesn't believe or disbelieve in God. They won't commit either way.
I argue that an agnostic is basically an atheist because they lack belief in God.
Wrong. Just want it separated from laws as intended.
Here's some more info on NDE's:
The Definitive Guide to Near-Death Experiences
Here is everything you need to know about Near-Death Experiences: scientific perspective and what they can tell us about the human soul and the afterlife.
www.google.com
Sort of. It's all going to be subjective reports because that's what we're dealing with: subjective experience.
But yes, we need better study to understand exactly what is going on. (and more/better data collection) I'm not sure we're even able as of yet to untangle the complex physiological process that take place anyway. There's lots we don't understand about the brain yet; how exactly does human consciousness arise?
Now... all that said; ignorance about topic X can't be used as evidence for topic Y.
That's the "God of the gaps" fallacy. Taking X topic that we don't completely understand yet and inserting God as the answer.
That's silly -- you can't just stuff God into these gaps of knowledge, you also have to prove he's the one at work.
If you go back 500 years (hell 100 even) people would've been pointing to all kinds of now solved scientific queries in which God was an often cited explanation.
The problem with this approach as evidence for God is that these gaps of knowledge shrink over time, leaving God nothing to do.
Speaking of science, you know the greatest scientist of all time, Sir Isaac Newton, believed in God, right?
Isaac Newton's life was one long search for God
From physics and alchemy to theology and eschatology, Isaac Newton’s research was rooted in a personal pursuit of the Divine.
bigthink.com
Some great scientists married their own first cousins too.Speaking of science, you know the greatest scientist of all time, Sir Isaac Newton, believed in God, right?
Isaac Newton's life was one long search for God
From physics and alchemy to theology and eschatology, Isaac Newton’s research was rooted in a personal pursuit of the Divine.
Faith and science are not compatible. Some will certainly accept an unreasonable choice out of fear.Speaking of science, you know the greatest scientist of all time, Sir Isaac Newton, believed in God, right?
Isaac Newton's life was one long search for God
From physics and alchemy to theology and eschatology, Isaac Newton’s research was rooted in a personal pursuit of the Divine.
There is some evidence that he existed. There is very little evidence of who he was or what he actually did or said.
Thats not true. 40% of scientists are religious in America.
Isn't it reasonable to makes choices based on fear sometimes?
Do you drive 50 MPH over the speed limit while drinking and not wearing your seat belt?
