Well, I lived in IC a long time and saw plenty of truth to it.
Again, witnessed many of their overall attitudes towards "Iowa", in general.
Is there something I've said that doesn't make sense?
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Again, witnessed many of their overall attitudes towards "Iowa", in general.
Is there something I've said that doesn't make sense?
I can't think of even one of my college friends from the Chicago area that wasn't a die hard Hawkeye fan. They still are. Polar opposite of what you describe. I suspect that the experiences of most people on this board are pretty close to mine.
My son did undergrad at Northwestern and I can't think of any of his friends that are from Chicago area and yet they were/are huge Wildcat fans. Season tickets Student section, travelled to away games, bowl games etc. Still do. Kids adapt and become part or their school.
The Iowa/NW comparison has already been responded to.
If your Chi friends were diehard Hawks, that's great. I have a couple of them too.
But have experienced much more of the opposite. Certainly possible that we've had different experiences. But the narrative didn't come from nowhere. Again, it's been discussed for 20 years
Your experience doesn't make it a narrative. Maybe those folks were just trying to ignore you. Sounds like a good idea.
On avg 30-35% of undergrad is from IL. Believe it or not all are from Chicago suburbs and not all of them were turned down by ILL schools. Many of them Iowa was actually their first choice for fair amount (plenty along the Mississippi corridor). To place blame on IL/chicago kids for lack of student attendance for bball is so short sided and ignorant. Almost all the IL guys I knew from dorms and throughout my 4 years there always cheered for Iowa especially when we played the likes of ILL or NW.
The attitude seemed to be mostly from the Chicagoans.
I never said Iowa wasn't their first choice, but that they attended Iowa because it was less expensive.
And I never blamed the lack of student attendance on them. Just pointed out that it part of the dynamic, which again, has been well known for 20 years. Have you guys been living under a rock?
Yeah, pretty much everything you’ve said in this thread, and you’ve been called out accordingly. You either have had extremely outlier anecdotal experiences, are regurgitating an ignorant narrative or are making sh*t up and pretending that it’s that way because you think it should be (listed from least likely to most). There is literally no other explanation.
So, another one that's been living under a rock.
This is pretty funny, actually
Hmmm? Have linked just one of the posts that pops up when you search "students from Chicago".
Post #43 in that thread
Welcome aboard Ben!
The arrogance of some of them makes this all the more sweet. Meth does bad things to your brain. And your mouth. A few good years with Huggy and they think they’re a blue blood 😂
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Have you looked at cost for in state tuition at Illinois vs out of state at Iowa? It is anything but cheaper. I’m going out on a limb you’ve never really asked someone from that state why they attended Iowa. Just your idiotic hunches. Your Illinois theory is so flawed and you not letting it go and dying on this hill is laughable. As previous poster said take the L and move on. But you just can’t stand not having the last word so I can’t wait for what you come up with next.
Yep, and that dumbass got roasted, too.Hmmm? Have linked just one of the posts that pops up when you search "students from Chicago".
Post #43 in that thread
Welcome aboard Ben!
The arrogance of some of them makes this all the more sweet. Meth does bad things to your brain. And your mouth. A few good years with Huggy and they think they’re a blue blood 😂iowa.forums.rivals.com
Iowa used to, in fact, be cheaper than in-state for Illinois. Maybe it has changed.
Have you read the above link? I'm certainly not the only one who's been on this hill
Interesting. Because somehow he characterized the narrative as having been around for years too.
So I'm guessing he didn't make it up either
Really? How far back was that then. For this academic year Iowa out of state (33K) is literally double Illinois in state. Maybe you had no idea and were spouting off and proven wrong and even then you can’t just admit you were wrong. Instead have to come up with the preposterous “it use to be, maybe it has changed” when you really have no idea or if it ever really was. And by looking at the #s if it ever really was it was a long long time ago if ever. Again the difference between you and every other poster is you can’t accept defeat when proven wrong and as I said just can’t stand not having the last word. Now can quadruple down on ignorance
Maybe it's been some years, but it used to be.
The difference between you and me is I tend to take people at their word until I have reason not to. It's called respect.
Either way, the percentage of students from Illinois is significant. And as I've proven, the narrative about Illinois students not being invested in Hawkeye sports has been around for a long time
Difference between you and I is I can smell bullish!T when some one is lying or caught in a lie when they make a bs claim. Difference between you and I is I’ll eat crow if proven wrong. Which btw please tell me when the difference was in tuition? I’m all ears. And the narrative you’ve “proven” about Illinois students is another falsehood as it is an opinion, nothing more, you’ve proven nothing just stated your opinion which doesn’t make it true. With many disagreeing with you like basically everyone besides you in this very thread.
Bothered to read the link provided in post #50?
Proof that, as stated by the linked poster, the premise about non-invested Chicago students has been around for years
No idea what eyesofhawk is posting, but getting good entertainment value from y'alls reactions.
Much more entertainment value than Iowa basketball has provided over the past several years.
Much more entertainment value than Iowa basketball has provided over the past several years.
JFC it’s called an opinion. Just because it’s been around for years doesn’t make it true let alone let alone equate to students at men’s games. Take the L and move on but we all know you can’t. Your Obsessive compulsion to post something else won’t let you. I mean all one has to do is look at the thread about another poster you started and then bring that up out of the blue in other threads like your previous post. Which is funny that it just has to be killing you he won’t engage because you are just dying to get into a pissing match with him.
No. I'm just dying for him to stop accusing me of something I've never said. It's been continuous. And I haven't appreciated it at all.
The fact that the premise has been around for years sure as hell does prove that it's something I didn't make up, as has been suggested.
The fact that it's been around for years points to there, at least potentially, being some validity to it. More than a handful of likes to the post I've linked. I'm not from as far outter space as has been portrayed in this thread.
And if these are just "opinions", what puts me on the "L" side?
I completely agree that dumbass opinions can surface and dolts can pass them on as truth for years and years. Thanks for recognizing that.
I'd be just fine with your leveling. After all, that's essentially what this board is. The 7th grade girls' club, going to the bathroom together.
Somehow, there's been a complete garbage 38 year narrative that Dr. Tom shut it down and sat on the ball vs UNLV.
So I see how longstanding narratives can be inaccurate.
The problem is, again, my experience has encountered many students from Chicago that couldn't give a shit about Iowa or Iowa athletics
In honor of your banter in another thread and using your own words. Please back up your claim how Iowa out of state tuition is cheaper than Illinois in state.
Which explains why women's basketball and wrestling attendance was so low the last few years.
How many Iowans at UI don’t care about Iowa athletics? I’ll bet the % is higher than Illinois residents. But that doesn’t fit the narrative long-running myth, so I’d ignore it if I were you.
To end this bantor, I looked up the tuition at Iowa and Illinois in 2000. Iowa non-resident was around 10,600 plus fees, etc. Illinois instate cost was 3700 (don't know if 1 semester or 2). So Illinois cost was $3000 to $7000 cheaper than Iowa.
The difference is I am not refuting your claim that in recent years it has been more expensive for Chicagoans to attend Iowa than Illinois.
I've only stated that years ago, it was not. I'm not going to look anything up because I've already provided evidence that would at least suggest it was somewhat common knowledge back then. And it's not that big of a deal one way or the other to me. If what I've said is incorrect, so be it.
Again, I haven't been continuously arguing with you that what you claimed is untrue. In fact, I've taken your claim at face value
Doesn't make my claim that it wasn't that way 15 or 20 years ago untrue
Since you’re blaming Chicago area students for apathy toward athletics, than you obviously have evidence pointing toward in-state fans being more engaged, so I’m offering you a chance to present it. This isn’t hard.
Um, how long ago was the year 2000? Are you seriously suggesting that the numbers more recently support your argument? You’d think a gambling addict would be better with numbers.
My bad, I read 2020.
Still doesn't disprove anything I've said.
Doesn't matter who's more engaged between Iowa and Illinois students. I've simply stated that the lack of investment in Hawkeye athletics from students from Chicago, is part of the reason for poor attendance from students
Dude, nothing you’re saying is making any sense, ur contradicting yourself left and right and ur getting ripped to shreds. Take the L, like you do with most of your bets.
All I've said is at one time Iowa was cheaper for Illinois natives than was Illinois.
Providing stats from any random year does nothing to disprove that.
It's not at all difficult
We get it. Anyone who doesn’t agree with you has been living under a rock. Ironically, under a rock would be a perfect place for you to be living. Can you go there?
Well there is the part about the poster in the link saying the same thing I have. And his post receiving several likes.
So no, not everyone lives under a rock
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