Best 4x AA to never win an NCAA Title

[SimpsonStorm]

1st Team: Gerry Abas – Fresno State, 142 (4-2-2-2)
1st Team: Mike McMullan – Northwestern, HWT (3-2-3-3)
1st Team: Sam Hazewinkel – Oklahoma, 125 (3-3-3-2)
1st Team: Dwight Hinson – Iowa State, 126 (3-2-4-3)
1st Team: Tyler Caldwell – Oklahoma/Oklahoma State, 165 (5-2-3-2)
1st Team: Mike DeAnna – Iowa, 167 (3-6-2-2)
1st Team: Bryan Snyder – Nebraska, 157 (4-5-2-2)
1st Team: Roger Frizzell – Oklahoma, 150 (4-3-3-3)
1st Team: Dylan Ness – Minnesota, 157 (2-4-2-6)
1st Team: Jake Percival – Ohio, 157 (4-5-2-3)

2nd Team: Greg Elinksy – Penn State, 167 (7-2-2-3)
2nd Team: Steve Hamilton – Iowa State, 167 (7-3-2-3)
2nd Team: Mike Mann – Iowa State, 190 (7-4-2-2)
2nd Team: Kevin Jackson – LSU/Iowa State, 167 (3-3-7-2)
2nd Team: John Fisher – Michigan, 134 (4-4-3-4)
2nd Team: Joe McFarland – Michigan, 126 (5-6-2-2)
2nd Team: Chad Kraft – Minnesota, 157 (5-3-2-5)
2nd Team: Babek Mohammadi – Oregon State, 134 (6-5-2-2)
2nd Team: Tyler Graff – Wisconsin, 133 (5-5-3-2)
2nd Team: Shawn Charles – Arizona State, 126 (5-7-2-2)

3rd Team: Joe Melchiore – Oklahoma/Iowa, 134 (4-7-2-3)
3rd Team: Eric Tannenbaum – Michigan, 165 (4-6-4-2)
3rd Team: Steve Williams – Oklahoma, UNL (6-5-3-2)
3rd Team: Tyrone Lewis – Oklahoma State, 165 (6-3-5-2)
3rd Team: Mike Mena – Iowa, 126 (7-3-5-2)
3rd Team: Erik Akin – Iowa State, 118 (8-3-4-2)
3rd Team: Mike Brown – Lehigh, 190 (5-3-2-7)
3rd Team: Logan Storley – Minnesota, 174 (6-4-3-4)
3rd Team: Nick Simmons – Michigan State, 133 (7-4-4-3)
3rd Team: Lance Palmer – Ohio State, 149 (4-8-4-2)

 

[Hicksy87]

Nice list. This has been covered in a thread in the past and also covered in an article in AWN. So many great wrestlers who did not win a title. Gable has mentioned before that Mike Deanna was the best 4 non champ AA.

 

[LaxHawk174]

Unless Sorensen beats Retherford for a title this year, he'll be on this list, probably even 'first team'. (4-2-3-2)

 

[Exo]

Sanders from Minny, wasn't he like 6, 6, 4, 3? Guessing there.

 

[jvclark]

I know Zaputil was only a three time all american(three time finalist), so he doesn't belong on this list, but I cant recall who "kept" him out of the lineup his freshman year. Can anyone remember?

Great list BTW. Love this stuff. Duane Goldman came close but 2-2-2-1, but got there his senior year. Which was awesome.

GO HAWKS!!

 

[jvclark]

Mike DeAnna was a great guy and a great coach as well. On top of the two times as runner up, he was also an Olympic alternate as well.

 

[nearfall2]

1st Team: Gerry Abas – Fresno State, 142 (4-2-2-2)
1st Team: Mike McMullan – Northwestern, HWT (3-2-3-3)
1st Team: Sam Hazewinkel – Oklahoma, 125 (3-3-3-2)
1st Team: Dwight Hinson – Iowa State, 126 (3-2-4-3)
1st Team: Tyler Caldwell – Oklahoma/Oklahoma State, 165 (5-2-3-2)
1st Team: Mike DeAnna – Iowa, 167 (3-6-2-2)
1st Team: Bryan Snyder – Nebraska, 157 (4-5-2-2)
1st Team: Roger Frizzell – Oklahoma, 150 (4-3-3-3)
1st Team: Dylan Ness – Minnesota, 157 (2-4-2-6)
1st Team: Jake Percival – Ohio, 157 (4-5-2-3)

2nd Team: Greg Elinksy – Penn State, 167 (7-2-2-3)
2nd Team: Steve Hamilton – Iowa State, 167 (7-3-2-3)
2nd Team: Mike Mann – Iowa State, 190 (7-4-2-2)
2nd Team: Kevin Jackson – LSU/Iowa State, 167 (3-3-7-2)
2nd Team: John Fisher – Michigan, 134 (4-4-3-4)
2nd Team: Joe McFarland – Michigan, 126 (5-6-2-2)
2nd Team: Chad Kraft – Minnesota, 157 (5-3-2-5)
2nd Team: Babek Mohammadi – Oregon State, 134 (6-5-2-2)
2nd Team: Tyler Graff – Wisconsin, 133 (5-5-3-2)
2nd Team: Shawn Charles – Arizona State, 126 (5-7-2-2)

3rd Team: Joe Melchiore – Oklahoma/Iowa, 134 (4-7-2-3)
3rd Team: Eric Tannenbaum – Michigan, 165 (4-6-4-2)
3rd Team: Steve Williams – Oklahoma, UNL (6-5-3-2)
3rd Team: Tyrone Lewis – Oklahoma State, 165 (6-3-5-2)
3rd Team: Mike Mena – Iowa, 126 (7-3-5-2)
3rd Team: Erik Akin – Iowa State, 118 (8-3-4-2)
3rd Team: Mike Brown – Lehigh, 190 (5-3-2-7)
3rd Team: Logan Storley – Minnesota, 174 (6-4-3-4)
3rd Team: Nick Simmons – Michigan State, 133 (7-4-4-3)
3rd Team: Lance Palmer – Ohio State, 149 (4-8-4-2)

Abas, Ness, Tannenbaum, and Palmer have something in common.

 

[Banned On The Run]

HM: James Green 7,7,3,3

 

[IAChief32]

1st Team: Gerry Abas – Fresno State, 142 (4-2-2-2)
1st Team: Mike McMullan – Northwestern, HWT (3-2-3-3)
1st Team: Sam Hazewinkel – Oklahoma, 125 (3-3-3-2)
1st Team: Dwight Hinson – Iowa State, 126 (3-2-4-3)
1st Team: Tyler Caldwell – Oklahoma/Oklahoma State, 165 (5-2-3-2)
1st Team: Mike DeAnna – Iowa, 167 (3-6-2-2)
1st Team: Bryan Snyder – Nebraska, 157 (4-5-2-2)
1st Team: Roger Frizzell – Oklahoma, 150 (4-3-3-3)
1st Team: Dylan Ness – Minnesota, 157 (2-4-2-6)
1st Team: Jake Percival – Ohio, 157 (4-5-2-3)

2nd Team: Greg Elinksy – Penn State, 167 (7-2-2-3)
2nd Team: Steve Hamilton – Iowa State, 167 (7-3-2-3)
2nd Team: Mike Mann – Iowa State, 190 (7-4-2-2)
2nd Team: Kevin Jackson – LSU/Iowa State, 167 (3-3-7-2)
2nd Team: John Fisher – Michigan, 134 (4-4-3-4)
2nd Team: Joe McFarland – Michigan, 126 (5-6-2-2)
2nd Team: Chad Kraft – Minnesota, 157 (5-3-2-5)
2nd Team: Babek Mohammadi – Oregon State, 134 (6-5-2-2)
2nd Team: Tyler Graff – Wisconsin, 133 (5-5-3-2)
2nd Team: Shawn Charles – Arizona State, 126 (5-7-2-2)

3rd Team: Joe Melchiore – Oklahoma/Iowa, 134 (4-7-2-3)
3rd Team: Eric Tannenbaum – Michigan, 165 (4-6-4-2)
3rd Team: Steve Williams – Oklahoma, UNL (6-5-3-2)
3rd Team: Tyrone Lewis – Oklahoma State, 165 (6-3-5-2)
3rd Team: Mike Mena – Iowa, 126 (7-3-5-2)
3rd Team: Erik Akin – Iowa State, 118 (8-3-4-2)
3rd Team: Mike Brown – Lehigh, 190 (5-3-2-7)
3rd Team: Logan Storley – Minnesota, 174 (6-4-3-4)
3rd Team: Nick Simmons – Michigan State, 133 (7-4-4-3)
3rd Team: Lance Palmer – Ohio State, 149 (4-8-4-2)

Strong work

 

[StParis]

Zeke Jordan

7th
7th
2nd
4th

 

[WWDMHawkeye]

Mike DeAnna was a great guy and a great coach as well. On top of the two times as runner up, he was also an Olympic alternate as well.

The good news is that nobody can ever take away his Big Ten title when he got that elusive win over Churella in an epic OT match.

 

[TarpHawk]

I know Zaputil was only a three time all american(three time finalist), so he doesn't belong on this list, but I cant recall who "kept" him out of the lineup his freshman year. Can anyone remember?

Great list BTW. Love this stuff. Duane Goldman came close but 2-2-2-1, but got there his senior year. Which was awesome.

GO HAWKS!!

Steve Martin, who also kept Terry Brands out his freshman year.

 

[Banned On The Run]

How about best team to never win it in a four year span? The "Buffalo Bills" of college wrestling.

 

[jvclark]

The good news is that nobody can ever take away his Big Ten title when he got that elusive win over Churella in an epic OT match.

Good call. 4 time big ten champ too. Not too many of those.

 

[jvclark]

Steve Martin, who also kept Terry Brands out his freshman year.

Damn! Couldn't get it out of my aluminum trap.... But thanks

 

[nearfall2]

Abas, Ness, Tannenbaum, and Palmer have something in common.

The answer is......

 

[jvclark]

The answer is......

All beaten by Hawkeyes? Too obvious?

 

[nearfall2]

All beaten by Hawkeyes? Too obvious?

Nice try. Never finished a season with a win.

 

[IAChief32]

Nice try. Never finished a season with a win.

Whoa...

 

[Banned On The Run]

So, HWC is taking off. How about the Hawkeyes- Mc D, Dennis, Gilman...not finishing at DI! Job isn't getting done by Iowa standards.
Guess what I am saying is Brands X2 aren't getting the results Iowa wants and is expected to get. I think both Tom and Terry will agree.

 

[Huck]

So, HWC is taking off. How about the Hawkeyes- Mc D, Dennis, Gilman...not finishing at DI! Job isn't getting done by Iowa standards.
Guess what I am saying is Brands X2 aren't getting the results Iowa wants and is expected to get. I think both Tom and Terry will agree.

For the love of Gable, what the f*** are you talking about??? Am I the stupid a$$ that can't make out what this post is saying or doing here?? Please tell me I'm not the idiot here.

 

[ih8iast8]

So, HWC is taking off. How about the Hawkeyes- Mc D, Dennis, Gilman...not finishing at DI! Job isn't getting done by Iowa standards.
Guess what I am saying is Brands X2 aren't getting the results Iowa wants and is expected to get. I think both Tom and Terry will agree.

McD didn't finish? Who's pipe are you blowing?

 

[CowboyUp61]

Zeke Jordan

7th
7th
2nd
4th

taking his knowledge to Stillwater!

 

[butchinmi]

Hope this isn't hijacking the thread but your post made me think of this. Who has won it as a freshman and then never won another one? Schlatter? NATO if he doesn't win this year? Others?

 

[anon_0pi0cv8t1ggvb]

Hope this isn't hijacking the thread but your post made me think of this. Who has won it as a freshman and then never won another one? Schlatter? NATO if he doesn't win this year? Others?

Young Tshirt

 

[TarpHawk]

Hope this isn't hijacking the thread but your post made me think of this. Who has won it as a freshman and then never won another one? Schlatter? NATO if he doesn't win this year? Others?

Penrith if first year in lineup (sophomore year) counts instead of freshman.

 

[thom67]

In 1965-66-67 Mike Caruso from Lehigh lost in finals all three years to Bob Fehrs by 1 or 2 points. Freshman were not eligible. I think those were Caruso's only NCAA wrestling losses.

 

[nearfall2]

In 1965-66-67 Mike Caruso from Lehigh lost in finals all three years to Bob Fehrs by 1 or 2 points. Freshman were not eligible. I think those were Caruso's only NCAA wrestling losses.

It must be Opposite Day. Mike won all three.

 

[thom67]

Was it Fehrs that lost all three? Getting old, memory gone. I saw the 67 finals at Kent St.

 

[nearfall2]

Was it Fehrs that lost all three? Getting old, memory gone. I saw the 67 finals at Kent St.

I use this site all the time. When I look at an old bracket I suddenly remember all those matches like it was last season.
http://www.wrestlingstats.com/ncaa/brackets.htm

 

[bman546]

So, HWC is taking off. How about the Hawkeyes- Mc D, Dennis, Gilman...not finishing at DI! Job isn't getting done by Iowa standards.
Guess what I am saying is Brands X2 aren't getting the results Iowa wants and is expected to get. I think both Tom and Terry will agree.

 

[jvclark]

I use this site all the time. When I look at an old bracket I suddenly remember all those matches like it was last season.
http://www.wrestlingstats.com/ncaa/brackets.htm

Not sure how I didn't know this existed. But that is great!!

 

[horraybeer]

Hope this isn't hijacking the thread but your post made me think of this. Who has won it as a freshman and then never won another one? Schlatter? NATO if he doesn't win this year? Others?

Don Rohn (Clarion) won as a TrueFR. He ended up a 3x AA (1,3,dnp,6)

 

[SheldonJoe2215]

Hope this isn't hijacking the thread but your post made me think of this. Who has won it as a freshman and then never won another one? Schlatter? NATO if he doesn't win this year? Others?

Matt Reiss, NC State 1980 from Bethlehem, Pa. Never even won a state championship.

 

[Banned On The Run]

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Now we know who the board methhead is. Yes, you bman546. Tweek out bro

 

[UNI_HAWKS]

Haven't seen Montell Marion mentioned. I can't recall his Fr year but I didnt he go 2-3-2 So-Sr?

 

[UNI_HAWKS]

They are having a similar discussion on FRL going weight-by-weight the last 10 years. Very interesting discussion. Gilman was the popular pick at 125 and Marion at 141.

 

[nearfall2]

The best wrestlers (not AA's) to not win a title are the dads of kids. Kids often tell me their dad could have been the state champ, but they had to ........ instead.

 

[bman546]

Now we know who the board methhead is. Yes, you bman546. Tweek out bro

I'm not the only one that couldn't decipher what the heck you were posting about. Better luck next time.