You guys are talking to a Husker troll.
Beth Goetz discusses Kirk's successor, revenue sharing and more
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Werner started at UNI one season… he was a back-up for 3 years previous. There wasn’t greatness written on him during his career as a Panther. He showed some real skills as a Barnstorner and got his break with “the greatest show on turf” in St. Louis. If the “Mad Scientist” hadn’t taken a gamble on him….and if Trent Green hadn’t gotten hurt, football would have never heard of Werner.
Kirk is fine as our leader; let the reins go a little more on offense decisions and we can be successful!
It’s an IF one we’re evaluating the credentials of current staff being the route taken. Read much. Who on this board knows how to read? Do you?
i do, and i'm still trying to figure out who TS is that you named. i'm assuming you meant TL.
I believe Lester is the better coach. He deserves it over Wallace. Lester has been a head coach. I'd rather them hire from outside though.
Why would we keep a coach that has lost the most big ten games and rarely beats anyone in the top 10?
Coaches that lose games are not kept very long in the B10…let’s be honest and transparent here…. Try not to be a NY Post headline.
click on the losses column and it'll rank high to low.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-ten/coaches.html
Wouldn't have anything to do with how many total games that has been coach would it? Obviously if you coach more games than everyone else, you're going to have more losses than everybody else. Duh.
Yes, in the same way it does the number of wins. They all count. Longevity cuts both ways.
You asked for the link, I just provided it. The numbers are what they are.
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Yup. Next season Kirk takes the lead and raises the all time BIG wins to an insurmountable total. A record that will never be broken.
Yeah, that was doughuddl. The number of losses are a byproduct of the number of games he's coached. So are the number of wins. A coach at one school for 26+ years is an anomaly...to put it mildly.
Never is a long time. No one would ever break Gehrig’s streak, either….
KF’s Big Ten losses is an unbreakable record; his wins will not be.
(i.e. - Someone else may very well be allowed to coach until he wins 210+ games, but no one will EVER be allowed to coach long enough to lose as many games as KF has).
He's cleaner than the majority of coaches out there, but how can anyone seriously say he's stayed out of trouble? Especially since someone before you reminded us of the racism scandal, the nepotism, rhabdo. Just because people want to act like those never happened doesn't mean they didn't. I'm over those, so I'm not trying to argue about them anymore, only saying you're ignoring those, or just lying.
Fitzgerald would have easily eclipsed Kirk for more career losses but for getting fired for the hazing scandal.
Thanks for proving my point. Coaches with tons of losses tend to get fired before it becomes ridiculous. I'll bet if Patty were close to breaking the wins record, that scandal wouldn't have looked so bad.
Proving your point? Fitzgerald would still be the coach for life at Northwestern but for the scandal with his assistant coaches. It had nothing to do with his losses. He had a winning record at Northwestern and a number of very good seasons.
Guys like Woody and Bo coached 8 games a year, for the most part. Today you can potentially have 17 in one season. W/L doesn’t mean what it used to.
Nolan Ryan was barely a .500 pitcher in his career… he is in the Hall of Dame. Cy Young lost over 300 games in his career, I believe.
Better not name a trophy after that Cy Young guy, had the most losses ever.
I would be fine with Kirk if he got completely out of Lester’s way.
The division titles are laughable. Victory wise he hasn’t one a BIG title in 22 years. One major bowl win 14 years ago. He’s going to pass Woody only due to longevity. He doesn’t deserve to pass him. Your argument went nowhere.2 conference championships, 3 division titles, 4 conference coach of the year, 2 national coach of the year and our only BCS level bowl win in the last 65 years.....oh, and 204 games. Other than that, not much.....
Iowa’s football program is sooooo comparable to tOSU’s too. Other than the Evy years, Iowa has never been competitive with tOSU in football. Ever.
Woody coached many seasons when tOSU only had one or maybe two games that were competitive….abd then go to the Rose Bowl and get humiliated.
I know you’re trying to be funny, but Cy Young absolutely dominated baseball for about 20 years. That’s a little different than KF being pretty good for a super long time. And if pitchers were still making 40+ starts a year and forced to throw a complete game almost every time, his losses record would have been eclipsed 100+ times by now.
How many pitchers would be kept on a roster losing 20 games a year for 15 years? Not a lengthy list of people who have done it 3 times none the less 15 so your 100+ might be a touch on the high side
Kirk has a better bowl record than Woody.
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