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Beth Goetz discusses Kirk's successor, revenue sharing and more

How many pitchers would be kept on a roster losing 20 games a year for 15 years? Not a lengthy list of people who have done it 3 times none the less 15 so your 100+ might be a touch on the high side
Thanks. This also supports my point about how difficult KF’s loss record will be to break.

Kirk has a better bowl record than Woody.
This is just dumb and you know it.
 
The division titles are laughable. Victory wise he hasn’t one a BIG title in 22 years. One major bowl win 14 years ago. He’s going to pass Woody only due to longevity. He doesn’t deserve to pass him. Your argument went nowhere.
The specific question posed was what he’d won. I answered it. Your retort is the only thing that’s laughable.
 
Nolan Ryan was barely a .500 pitcher in his career… he is in the Hall of Dame. Cy Young lost over 300 games in his career, I believe.
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Hall of Dames
 
In your opinion. Facts >> emotions and opinions

I don’t make the rules
The fact that KF's winning % in bowl games is higher than Woody Hayes is not a fair comparison and is in no way a reflection on their coaching success. The fact that you're trying to pass it off as so is what's dumb. But again, you already know that.
 
The fact that KF's winning % in bowl games is higher than Woody Hayes is not a fair comparison and is in no way a reflection on their coaching success. The fact that you're trying to pass it off as so is what's dumb. But again, you already know that.
So the game is different than what it was? That comparisons of eras are challenging? Interesting concept. It's almost as if coaching at different schools might not be a fair comparison of their coaching success. That if someone at o$u or michigan won at the level that KF won a Iowa they wouldn't be around long. John Cooper and Earle Bruce will vouch for that. What if someone won at KF's level at Vanderbilt or Northwestern or Iowa State or Kansas........those schools may keep that coach around longer. Thank you for pointing that out. Perhaps try to work that into your discussion points going forward. Not all coaching situations are the same.
 
The fact that KF's winning % in bowl games is higher than Woody Hayes is not a fair comparison and is in no way a reflection on their coaching success. The fact that you're trying to pass it off as so is what's dumb. But again, you already know that.
You forget to mention that Kirk is not the prick and asshole that Woody was as a coach. Woody spent his entire career at tOSU as a PR nightmare and time bomb waiting to explode. He finally did. Woody won a lot of FB games at tOSU…..but you will note, most of his successors won at close to the same level…or higher than Woody. TOSU is a “football factory” where FOOTBALL is a very high priority……kinda like The Writer’s School is at UIowa. The difference…….folks don’t tailgate at The Writer’s Work Shop.
 
So the game is different than what it was? That comparisons of eras are challenging? Interesting concept. It's almost as if coaching at different schools might not be a fair comparison of their coaching success. That if someone at o$u or michigan won at the level that KF won an Iowa they wouldn't be around long. John Cooper and Earle Bruce will vouch for that. What if someone won at KF's level at Vanderbilt or Northwestern or Iowa State or Kansas........those schools may keep that coach around longer. Thank you for pointing that out. Perhaps try to work that into your discussion points going forward. Not all coaching situations are the same.
Thanks for agreeing that what you said was dumb.
 
You keep reading what you think you read. Eventually it will sink in and you will realize what it shows in your original premise. I am patient so I can wait for your delay in processing.
And KF still has a better bowl winning %. Just a fact.
No, I read fine, but your whole concept here is just dumb. I know you think you’re trying to make some kind of higher point, but it’s really just dumb. That’s probably why you agreed with me. Thanks again.
 
No, I read fine, but your whole concept here is just dumb. I know you think you’re trying to make some kind of higher point, but it’s really just dumb. That’s probably why you agreed with me. Thanks again.
"That’s probably why you agreed with me."

Other than I didn't you are spot on. Both records will be very difficult to break. The win record probably more difficult than the loss record.
You may ask why?
The chances of someone winning at a high enough rate to challenge the win record will probably get attention from either the NFL or a bigger blue blood program than they are at. A far higher chance of that occurring than someone winning at a similar clip as KF at a program with lower expectations say a Purdue or Northwestern and having no desire to go to a bigger program or has a certain connection to a program. Similar to a Fitz at Northwestern. If he avoids a scandal, throws in a couple 8-9 win seasons with some sub .500 seasons he breaks the loss record before the win record. That scenario is far more likely than I think you considered.
And yes, I was making a higher point. The fact that you don't get it is a you issue. I can't slow it down any more than I already have.

In my actual opinion I think both records are safe for as long as I am alive.
 
Babe Ruth's low SO number is one of his most remarkable stats. He never had a year with a 100 or more. In 2024, 157 players struck out 100 or more times.
Which “proves” my point 100%!
The argument vs. Kirk is his number off career losses..my point is Ruth struck out a lot, too… but over his career it was not a disparaging number…. And he is remembered for something other than striking out. Kirk will be known as being a winner at Iowa.. not for his record of lost games.
 
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