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I think MSU has beaten us lately by fouling every possession knowing that officials will only call a certain amount and than try evening up the totals.

Thanks for pointing this out as it is one aspect of our recent games. However, what else happened this past year at Carver?

Travis Trice was ATHLETIC enough to get off 8 three pointers and make 7 of them. On his way to 25 points and a victory.

Meanwhile our homegrown Iowa boy Josh Oglesby pump faked his way to 0-1 and no points because he was not athletic enough to get his shot off against a more athletic defender.

That is the difference athleticism makes.

If you can't see it then I can't help you.
 
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As to Moore. The "Moore" that comes out about why we didn't get him, the less I care. In fact, I applaud McCaffery for moving on to Bohannon.

Serious question - is there something missing here? What have you heard? I've only seen a few vague posts about the whole "Chicago/Illinois thing taking over", or whatever. It'd be nice to get concrete facts.
 
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Serious question - is there something missing here? What have you heard? I've only seen a few vague posts about the whole "Chicago/Illinois thing taking over", or whatever. It'd be nice to get concrete facts.


Him being from Chicago is enough to read between the lines. Man that city is corrupt on every level.
 
This comparison is closer than you think. Skinner led Iowa in three point shooting 3 times. He was limited athletically, had a hard time beating presses, and in my opinion made all kinds of poor decisions with the basketball. Hopefully, Bohannon is a better decision maker.
Well, I'll always remember at Indiana, Troy bringing the ball up against a quite determined press by the Hoosiers, and making it.
 
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This comparison is closer than you think. Skinner led Iowa in three point shooting 3 times. He was limited athletically, had a hard time beating presses, and in my opinion made all kinds of poor decisions with the basketball. Hopefully, Bohannon is a better decision maker.


Sorry, but the comparison is a terrible one in my opinion. Saying Skinner was limited athletically is being extremely kind. He lacked quickness and basically utilized a set shot from the perimeter and barely could dribble with his left hand...he would spin his way down the court in a painful fashion. Based on the videos of Bohannon, he is quick, can shoot the rock from deep, has a nice pull up mid range jump shot(similar to Gesell) and appears to have the athleticism to push the ball up and down the court as Fran likes. Bohannon appears to be a much better athlete than Skinner. How he will do at this level remains to be seen, but he comes from great bloodlines and appears to be the best athlete of all the Bohannon brothers that have played at the D1 level, and played well.

I'm purely speculating, but I think Fran had a much more difficult time recruiting a point guard than he envisioned this year, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if every school that we were competing with for point guard recruits, were quick to point out that Fran's son is only one year away from joining the program and that he would eat up the minutes to whichever 2016 point guard selected Iowa. Jordan obviously knows Connor and is familiar with Fran, so there should be no surprises when Connor enrolls at Iowa.

As for Bohannon choosing Iowa...congrats to the young man and I have to say its good to get a Bohannon after seeing them stick daggers in Iowa that past few years.

speaking of this years recruiting class, any word on how Pemsl is progressing following surgery and more time off?
 
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Agree with the top 100 outside Iowa comment. It looks like as long as the state produces Big 10 talent, we can compete in the Big 10. If not, we are in trouble. Thankfully we are going thru a pretty good period of Iowa talent. Still, unless we add Cook or someone similar, this recruiting class will be viewed as a gigantic failure.
 
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Thanks for pointing this out as it is one aspect of our recent games. However, what else happened this past year at Carver?

Travis Trice was ATHLETIC enough to get off 8 three pointers and make 7 of them. On his way to 25 points and a victory.

Meanwhile our homegrown Iowa boy Josh Oglesby pump faked his way to 0-1 and no points because he was not athletic enough to get his shot off against a more athletic defender.

That is the difference athleticism makes.

If you can't see it then I can't help you.
If you can't see how much more athletic this recent recruiting class is I can't help you. Trice won't be getting those shots off against Hutton. I can also assure you that Fran isn't content with 4th place. He will keep swinging for the fences and eventually hit the home run.

It takes longer than we want when you start from such a low point. I don't have any idea how Jordan will do, but I bet he contributes to a team that wins more games than Moore. There is a lot more to the game than running fast. You don't need elite athleticism to be a stud pg as long as you have athletes surrounding him and he knows how to get the ball to them.
 
this is completely bogus. Their job is to recruit the best possible players, not the best Iowa players. If that kid doesn't doesn't go to SMU and Kentucky doesn't offer Ulis i think you would be very happy to have Mr. Ulis running this team and we could all dream big about watching this team play meaningful basketball games in March.

I expect them to continue to try and recruit outside of Iowa top 100 players and expect them to have success when the W's keep piling up under Fran.

Didn't Ulis say he would have went to Michigan State if he didn't get a Kentucky offer?
 
Fran has already recruited two top 100 players outside the state of Iowa: Marble and White. They are top 100 as they were both drafted. They might not have been top 100 recruits, but I think we can all agree that top 100 players are better. I wouldn't be that surprised if someone from the new class became a top 100 player.
 
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I have just one question: is Bohannon an elite PG - yes or no??
 
I have just one question: is Bohannon an elite PG - yes or no??

What is your definition of elite? By my definition there is usually only 1-3 elite PGs per class...so no. But that doesn't mean he's not very good.
 
Agree with the top 100 outside Iowa comment. It looks like as long as the state produces Big 10 talent, we can compete in the Big 10. If not, we are in trouble. Thankfully we are going thru a pretty good period of Iowa talent. Still, unless we add Cook or someone similar, this recruiting class will be viewed as a gigantic failure.
A gigantic failure were the recruiting classes of LickLiter and Alford's recruits that could never make it on campus. This class might be a disappointment (because we didn't get our 1st choices) but to deem this as gigantic is ridiculous. All three current recruits are very good athletes from the state of Iowa. You just said above that "It looks like as long as the state produces Big 10 talent, we can compete in the Big 10." We just got three players that have Big 10 talent that will help us compete in the Big 10.

We have these athletes to add to the current freshman class that is comprised of Chicago players and an Oak Hill player (Fleming) that have added much more athleticism to the team. If we also add Cook to the mix, we will IMHO have the most athletic team since the one that Tom Davis inherited from George Raveling.
 
Didn't Ulis say he would have went to Michigan State if he didn't get a Kentucky offer?
Congrats to Jordan. Sounds like we will have multiple shooters and ball handlers on the court over the next few years. For those who have watched Jordan live, how is quickness on the defensive end and is he really 6'1"?
 
Congrats to Jordan. Sounds like we will have multiple shooters and ball handlers on the court over the next few years. For those who have watched Jordan live, how is quickness on the defensive end and is he really 6'1"?


6' 1" is about right, maybe a fraction under it.
As far as his defense, I've seen him play a chunk of HS ball, but not AAU ball (btw, his team won the national championship this year). He's more than capable of guarding anyone he's been up against, but like I said, I'm sure the AAU circuit would provide a better glimpse into that, so I won't pretend to be able to heavily critique that.
 
Agree with the top 100 outside Iowa comment. It looks like as long as the state produces Big 10 talent, we can compete in the Big 10. If not, we are in trouble. Thankfully we are going thru a pretty good period of Iowa talent. Still, unless we add Cook or someone similar, this recruiting class will be viewed as a gigantic failure.

But then again if that happens you'll be the first one bitching about Iowa not recruiting top 100 talent. Or if pemsl or Woodbury would have left for an out of state program you'd also be the first one to complain. I don't know how you can call a recruiting class a gigantic failure before they even stepped onto the floor.
 
Didn't Ulis say he would have went to Michigan State if he didn't get a Kentucky offer?
Yes. We were down to #3 by the end.

That being said, I'm quite happy with Jordan committing. He was the starting PG on an AAU national championship team this summer. Some players don't necessarily have that "look," but Jordan has more than enough not to mention intangibles. He's going to be a pass-distribute PG first and with the number of athletes around him that's what will be needed.

Also, don't dismiss the role of players like Christian Williams who could end up being a Devyn Marble type PG. What you could end up seeing is a couple of styles in the same game depending on the PG.
 
That he was a PITA and probably looking for promises and $.
Jordan and Christian will do just fine. It will be easier to penetrate when you have dangerous 3 pt shooters all around. Makes it harder to sag into the lane. We have those shooters this year and I think we will be very happy to have Jordan.
 
A) Athleticism.
B) Ability to defend other athletic types.

I don't know if you notice what MSU does to Iowa every year, but I sure do.

They beat us with better athletes. The Iowa basketball program can and should shoot for winning the B1G title. Finishing 4th with Iowa kids playing "the right way" should not be the ultimate goal of the program. Aim higher.

Iowa will continue to build off the recruitment of Hutton & Moss (Chicago kids).. the recruiting of Moore turned...Iowa & Fran are & were not going to entertain unacceptable conditions that are not part of the Iowa program. That doesn't mean Fran will not continue to recruit out of state kids like Wagner & Fleming...

Iowa kids on our team are great...the last time Iowa BB won a B1G title of any kind...4 of the 5 starters were from Iowa.

So we want both in state & out of state...some years like the class of 2015...we get more out of state...some years we get more in state. Just depends on Fran's evaluation...which I think we all can agree is pretty good.
 
in the other thread, i said i hoped that fran would bank the ride until this spring... what the hell do i know, anyway? if fran likes him that's good enough for me. congrats to Jordan. we can always use another shooter to put points on the board. work hard and prove it.
 
Sorry, but the comparison is a terrible one in my opinion. Saying Skinner was limited athletically is being extremely kind. He lacked quickness and basically utilized a set shot from the perimeter and barely could dribble with his left hand...he would spin his way down the court in a painful fashion. Based on the videos of Bohannon, he is quick, can shoot the rock from deep, has a nice pull up mid range jump shot(similar to Gesell) and appears to have the athleticism to push the ball up and down the court as Fran likes. Bohannon appears to be a much better athlete than Skinner. How he will do at this level remains to be seen, but he comes from great bloodlines and appears to be the best athlete of all the Bohannon brothers that have played at the D1 level, and played well.

I'm purely speculating, but I think Fran had a much more difficult time recruiting a point guard than he envisioned this year, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if every school that we were competing with for point guard recruits, were quick to point out that Fran's son is only one year away from joining the program and that he would eat up the minutes to whichever 2016 point guard selected Iowa. Jordan obviously knows Connor and is familiar with Fran, so there should be no surprises when Connor enrolls at Iowa.

As for Bohannon choosing Iowa...congrats to the young man and I have to say its good to get a Bohannon after seeing them stick daggers in Iowa that past few years.

speaking of this years recruiting class, any word on how Pemsl is progressing following surgery and more time off?

Thank you, I was hoping someone would note the unfair comparison with Skinner.
 
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