Am I too late for the Fran bashing for giving a scholarship to Till instead of a grad transfer guard to fill in for Bohannon?
Bohannon Hip Surgery
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You obviously are not paying attention to much on Hawkeye basketball.... That's not the issue. We still have 4 scholarships to give, if we need to. Connor and Patrick can have dad pay for school with one week's salary.
No I don't and I never claimed to. All I'm saying is that we don't know what he's done to try to recruit a PG transfer this year. You claim he's done nothing. We don't know that. True, we know he is hesitant about transfers, but we don't know if knowledge of JBo's injury motivated him to put out some feelers on transfers or not. And it doesn't sound like anyone knew the full extent of JBo's injury until very recently...including JBo himself. It's also true has hasn't signed anyone yet, but that is not proof that he hasn't tried or at least explored the idea. And I'm not saying no one can criticize a coach...I do it all the time. But to do it without any real knowledge about what actually is happening is silly.
Dude...I do realize that. I also realize that players can say "No." I'm not making excuses, but understand how things work. Make no mistake...I'm no huge fan of Fran. But I do understand it's not quite as easy as just "going out and getting somebody."
Why has anyone mentioned hip replacement in this thread? Did I miss something? There’s no way anyone is thinking of hip replacement in JBo unless he has a congenital disease. Hip scopes are fairly specialized surgeries. Not many orthopedic surgeons do them. Only a few in Iowa. Maybe a tear of the labrum?
After he had the March cortisone shot, the risk of infection from a major surgery goes up 15 times or more. No doc would take that risk for a couple months, hence the JBo delay.
Agree 100% but not in Fran's world. He will do nothing and then tell us how Till can PMac can handle the ball so no need for another guard. It's all too predictable for Fran at this juncture. Since he is so opposed to graduate transfers it's unlikely he will even try so that doesn't leave many options.
Honestly, if he has to redshirt it may be a blessing in disguise. This coming season is already going to be a struggle to make the tourney before potentially losing JBo since we lost Moss and Cook earlier than expected.
But the following season could be pretty good with a senior Garza, senior and fully healthy JBo, junior Joe W assuming he stays, senior and hopefully healthy Pemsl, plus a year of more experience for Joe T, CJ, Nunge, Patrick, and Connor. That’s a pretty decent team. Joe getting a whole season of being the man in the backcourt could hopefully make him realize how good he can be when he doesn’t have to defer to anyone on the team.
But the following season could be pretty good with a senior Garza, senior and fully healthy JBo, junior Joe W assuming he stays, senior and hopefully healthy Pemsl, plus a year of more experience for Joe T, CJ, Nunge, Patrick, and Connor. That’s a pretty decent team. Joe getting a whole season of being the man in the backcourt could hopefully make him realize how good he can be when he doesn’t have to defer to anyone on the team.
I think that Fran would have a shot at a grad transfer PG now. If we are being honest with ourselves, no rational grad transfer would walk into a situation where they don't have a clear path to starting (I know. . . Isaiah Moss. . . but I don't consider that a rational decision). The problem is that there aren't many grad transfer point guards remaining. Jeff Borzello's list on ESPN shows only Derryck Thornton and Ryan Woolridge (who they just list as a G).
So Fran gets a gold star for trying?
This is high major college basketball. Your job is to put a tourney team on the floor. If Prohm doesn’t do that next year it will not be a successful year, and you certainly won’t hear me saying golly gee it’s tough out there recruiting. RECRUITING IS 90% OF THE JOB.
Bohannon's surgery is not a hip replacement. It's an arthroscopic surgery, done through many small incisions with a camera, so it's a noninvasive surgery. It is not considered "major surgery". Arthroscopic surgery is less painful with a faster recovery time than an open incision procedure. Patients usually go home the same day.
Jordan's surgery involves shaving down the bone irregularities to make a smoother surface to allow easier movement, and a repair or partial removal of the damaged labrum cartilage that provides cushioning between bones. He will be on crutches for several weeks, and rehab will begin early. The rehab will take longer and be more intensive than normal because Jordan's an athlete and needs his hip joint to function at 100% and without pain. A 4-month recovery with rehab would not be unusual for an athlete having a hip arthroscopy.
Actually, hip arthroscopies are quite common these days. I'd be willing to bet that the U. of Iowa Hospitals do dozens of them weekly. Wishing good luck and a speedy recovery to Jordan!
Jordan's surgery involves shaving down the bone irregularities to make a smoother surface to allow easier movement, and a repair or partial removal of the damaged labrum cartilage that provides cushioning between bones. He will be on crutches for several weeks, and rehab will begin early. The rehab will take longer and be more intensive than normal because Jordan's an athlete and needs his hip joint to function at 100% and without pain. A 4-month recovery with rehab would not be unusual for an athlete having a hip arthroscopy.
Actually, hip arthroscopies are quite common these days. I'd be willing to bet that the U. of Iowa Hospitals do dozens of them weekly. Wishing good luck and a speedy recovery to Jordan!
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Last I checked we are going to potentially have for four-star recruits and another rivals 150 kid in the starting lineup
Fran better be pounding the recruiting trail. I am sick of his lackadaisical approach this off season .
And you know that he hasn't been recruiting as hard as possible? Sometimes the best efforts fail.
Word is, he didn't go after a bunch of recruits so Patrick can get more playing time.
So we missed out on a shit ton of players. Now we will get leftovers at best
I know, I wasn't being serious. I figured someone already made that asinine argument.
Says who? Iowa offered tons of guys in Patrick's class, many big names. And got visits from quite a few highly rated guys. But didn't land any others outside of Toussaint.
As others have said, I don't doubt at all Iowa's ability to identify talent and Fran has shown he will put in the time to get guys. But effort alone doesn't equal recruiting success. Iowa missed on all the big fish in Patrick's class.
Man, this really sucks. Iowa had a chance to be one of the best teams in the Big Ten if everyone returned; now they could quite realistically be the worst team in the Big Ten. Rough offseason for Fran and the basketball program.
We don't need freshman, we need grad transfers. He needs to get over whatever his issue is with them.
Win now. Or there will be no tomorow
It truly amazes me how many fans are this stupid
Nevermind, now we all realize you are trolling
I thought you were talking to yourself but now I see you were responding to CelticHawk, the very first idiot I ever put on ignore. You’d be better off having a conversation with a potato.
Then why is everyone fretting? Sounds like anything short of the NCAA will be a failure.
I concur. Too many fans are idiots who enjoy going nuts over a worst case scenario that hasn’t happened.
Except he himself said that if he wasn't ready by the exhibition season he would probably redshirt as he doesn't want to play just half a season. We'll see what actually happens.....
I wonder if coach will take another look at BJ Greenlee now. MVP for state tournament champs in Florida (not sure what class) and reportedly up to 6’3” now. Still hasn’t committed anywhere...that I have found. Maybe still a relationship there. I’ve heard coach doesn’t mind playing two point guards at the same time.
Wishing Bohannon the best with his surgery and recovery. If he does take the redshirt, this is still a talented team, but obviously depth is a concern. One backcourt injury, foul trouble, etc. and we’ve got some guys playing close to 40.
Wishing Bohannon the best with his surgery and recovery. If he does take the redshirt, this is still a talented team, but obviously depth is a concern. One backcourt injury, foul trouble, etc. and we’ve got some guys playing close to 40.
On this we agree.
Trying to land a player counts for zip. It's a bottom line business and the bottom line is wins.
If Fran gets to the sweet 16 with the roster he's put together that's a job well done.
If they fail to make the tourney, then he needs to answer for that. No excuses.
JBo is a Warrior. Get well and come back when you are ready. God speed. In the mean time we need leadership to step up and take this team over. Opportunity knocks - who is going to take it to the next level.
He’s not done for the year it’s a four month process seems to me he’s buying time. If he rehabs hard and get after it he will be 100 percent come Nov
Why is my point so difficult for some of you to understand? No...I don't think he should get "a gold star for trying" and I never said nor implied that. I said we have no idea of what he did or didn't do to try and land a transfer and that sometimes, in spite of your best effort to sell a player on the program, that player can ultimately say no. It happens. It's especially magnified when you only have 1 or 2 targets to begin with.
Yea, I share your sentiments that Bohannon is okay and has a successful recovery.
