Valid point, I guess I favor Paniro over Henson even though he is seeded one spot lower. think it is especially tough for SVN because Paniro will have had so much time off of the scale... in the two matches where he's had 8+ hours off of the scale he beat a healthy gomez by 5 and Mauller by 6. Time will tell. Just my opinion.
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Don't get me wrong here, Van Ness is not a favorite against either one of those guys. I'm just saying I don't think there is much of a difference between them, especially since the other one is next if he survives regardless of who comes first. I love watching Paniro. Even his low scoring matches are high energy, but his style lends itself to upsets, both for and against him. Both his dual loss (getting pinned in SV) and his B12 final win vs Mauller were just great matches to watch as a wrestling fan.
Just as likely to happen as it is not. The field has gotten so much deeper.
We get 5:
Spencer
Real
Murin
Kennedy
Cass
I REALLY want to believe in NCAA Warner, but man he's had such a rough year. And that bracket/his seed is just a minefield.
I have those same guys reaching the podium. I also think 1 more sneaks on, most likely Warner or Brands.
I think a terrible tourney for Iowa equals 3 AA's, a disappointing tournament is 4 AA's, and 5 AA's is a ho hum weekend. 6 on the podium is a good tournament and 7 would be a great showing and push PSU if we get two champs. I'm hoping for the best while bracing for the worst. That is what makes the NCAA tournament great.
I concur. I can’t see less than 3 but having a difficult time feeling strongly about the over. Would be great for the Hawks to peak as a team this year!
Thinking of only Lee Woods and Cass AA’s makes me sick as it could be a reality. I’m hoping for 6 with Murin PK and Warner getting to the podium also
The over/under should easily be 4 and should probably at least be 4.5. Short of injury, Lee, Woods and Cass are as close to locks as it gets. Between, Murin, Kennedy and Warner you should at least get 1 more and probably 2. After that, Siebrecht, Brands and Assad really only need to pull off 1 small upset to make the podium.
I truly think they end up with 6 when it is all over, but 4 or 4.5 is probably the most accurate if you were betting…
Guessing Mekhi Lewis when he injured his shoulder. Could be way off as I don’t recall if he was injured going in or during the tourney so perhaps he wasn’t a 1 seed?
Alternative take: Warner IS the mine.
I'd love to see Warner end his career on a high note.
Yeah that was the year he had the rib injury at the end of the match against Griffith and they wouldn't clear him to wrestle in the R12 match. So, sadly, he is the only 1 seed not to AA, but I am pretty confident he would have beat Amine that year in the R12. Looking back, Amine had nearly a gift from God to take 7th that year. He beat the 22, 28 and 14 seeds 5-3OT, 4-2 and 6-4. His other 2 wins were by forfeit(Marinelli and Valencia). His losses were to #10 Wittlake and #6 O'Toole 4-1 and 6-2.
What is interesting about the 2 seeds is there has been one each year over the 4 year span that did not AA.
2018 did not seed 33, only the top 16. Joey LaVallee at the 2 drew Kennedy Monday in the first round and lost 8-6. On the backside, he lost in the blood round to Kemerer.
2019 Shakur Rasheed, He went 2-2 losing to the 15 and then the 26. If memory serves, that was the year he was pretty torn up.
2021- Eric Shultz, was pinned by the 31 then lost in the rd of 16 to the 7 seed Rocky Elam who had been beaten in the first round by the 26.
2022- No reason to go there
2018 did not seed 33, only the top 16. Joey LaVallee at the 2 drew Kennedy Monday in the first round and lost 8-6. On the backside, he lost in the blood round to Kemerer.
2019 Shakur Rasheed, He went 2-2 losing to the 15 and then the 26. If memory serves, that was the year he was pretty torn up.
2021- Eric Shultz, was pinned by the 31 then lost in the rd of 16 to the 7 seed Rocky Elam who had been beaten in the first round by the 26.
2022- No reason to go there
Stats by conferences from last year.
First Number-wrestlers seeded 8 or higher
Second Number-All Americans seeded 8 or above
Third Number-All Americans seeded 9 or higher
Big Ten. 35-29-10
Big 12. 14-8-2
Pac 12. 11-10-3
ACC. 8-6-4
EIWA. 9-5-2
So Con 2-1-0
MAC 1-0-0
Of the 80 as top 8 seeds, 59 were AA 73.75%
21 All Americans were seeded 9 or greater
26.25%
The 10 is what really stands out. I’d love to see what the seeds would look like with Conf tourney placement completely removed from the equation.
On quick count. 22 wrestlers will All-American outside of the top 8 seeds.
Four 8th seeds will AA.
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