Brian did not need oc to be HC

[Wahawk56]

But it certainly could cost him the job. Kirk was never a coordinator other than prep school.
look at dabo Sweeney, went from wr coach to head coach. It could be done, and there would have been plenty of justification for it had they progressed right. You don't even need to call plays as a head coach, just learn how to delegate. I had no problem with him getting the OC job, but thought he would have made a better HC than OC. It takes a certain creative mind to be able to call plays at the high level and Brian and Kirk made a potential $150 million gamble that probably would have been paid to Brian throughout his HC tenure had he stayed and salaries continue to rise.

It's still only the first year and next season will show a lot on if BF is up for the task or not, but my god, has this been horrible.

 

[HaydenHawk8]

With every change there is bound to be some struggles. I remember when we went from KOK to GD our offense that first year was brutal.

BF has to show the fans something or it will be the end of his dad and him at Iowa. He has to have a new "gimmick" or something. If he keeps doing what he's doing it will not end well.

 

[Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll]

Wasnt-drunk-didnt-trollHR All-State
Brian needs to understand that if he wants to be a head coach he needs to invent a "Brian Ferentz Offense".... No one is going to be lining up at the door in 3 or 4 years to hire the next "Kirk Ferentz Offense".. Including the U of I. That being said he seems super passionate and I believe he will get us into a decent offensive football team, he just needs some time and for the younger guys to grow a little. I will say I see alot of things about this O I really like we need to catch the ball.

5 Oct 23, 2017

 

[Slappy Pappy]

He's just a position coach. Never be a good coordinator and seen nothing to indicate he is HC material. Nothing wrong with that. Why is everyone intent on promoting him beyond his ability?

 

[Wahawk56]

He's just a position coach. Never be a good coordinator and seen nothing to indicate he is HC material. Nothing wrong with that. Why is everyone intent on promoting him beyond his ability?

Again, you do not need to be a coordinator to be a head coach.
All he needs to be able to do is manage, bring stability, and not do embarrassing things off the field.

 

[OutbackBowl2017]

Kirk said he is a great coach so I'd make him my OC too even though he has no experience calling plays at any level of football. What could go wrong?

 

[Slappy Pappy]

Again, you do not need to be a coordinator to be a head coach.
All he needs to be able to do is manage, bring stability, and not do embarrassing things off the field.

Again, why does he 'need' to be a head coach.

And yeah, i trust kirk saying that he's a great 'coach' but he's obviously not a great coordinator, and there are a lot of guys making careers of being great coaches without ever being a hc, which are more like CEOs, anyway.

 

[SigMaintHawk]

Kirk said he is a great coach so I'd make him my OC too even though he has no experience calling plays at any level of football. What could go wrong?

Wisconsin elevated Jim Leonhard to the DC Position..He had a grand total of 1 year of coaching experience at any level of football before being elevated to the DC position this year. Some guys have "it" and can immediatey do the job well...

 

[Wahawk56]

Again, why does he 'need' to be a head coach.

And yeah, i trust kirk saying that he's a great 'coach' but he's obviously not a great coordinator, and there are a lot of guys making careers of being great coaches without ever being a hc, which are more like CEOs, anyway.

He doesn't need to be a head coach, but he'd make a better head coach than OC. I have no problem with him being a head coach if promoted in a few years, but he needs to change something with this offense.

 

[steventrelain]

95th scoring offense and 82nd total offense.
5th in total defense and 6th in scoring defense.

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/27/p2

 

[Hawkeyeinsoutherncalifornia]

OUCH

But it certainly could cost him the job. Kirk was never a coordinator other than prep school.
look at dabo Sweeney, went from wr coach to head coach. It could be done, and there would have been plenty of justification for it had they progressed right. You don't even need to call plays as a head coach, just learn how to delegate. I had no problem with him getting the OC job, but thought he would have made a better HC than OC. It takes a certain creative mind to be able to call plays at the high level and Brian and Kirk made a potential $150 million gamble that probably would have been paid to Brian throughout his HC tenure had he stayed and salaries continue to rise.

It's still only the first year and next season will show a lot on if BF is up for the task or not, but my god, has this been horrible.

 

[scotthawk1964]

Maybe I'm the Oddball here but I don't think Brian has done that bad as offensive coordinator. I don't agree with every play call he's made but I don't think he's done that bad, and I think he's getting better. Course most people here hated Greg Davis and if I remember correctly most everyone here seemed to hate Ken O'Keefe when he was the offensive coordinator. I will say this it's much easier to be an armchair OC than a real one. Lol

 

[Herkmeister]

1. If IIRC, Brian's yards per play is the 3rd highest in all Kirk's years at Iowa. I'd say that's pretty good.
2. I'm not sure Brian has the demeanor to be a HC. I can't get his juvenile outburst out of my mind. I hear little rumors all the time and just wonder about him.
3. Though I think Brian will get the job, I've been hearing a lot of things over the last couple years and I have an odd feeling that the best candidate for the HC job might actually be Levar Woods. I've not heard that stated, but every single thing you hear about Levar is nothing but great. Plus he's an Iowan, has NFL experience, and is a genuinely good man.
4. @Wahawk56 , great to see you posting again!!!

 

[David1979]

But it certainly could cost him the job. Kirk was never a coordinator other than prep school.
look at dabo Sweeney, went from wr coach to head coach. It could be done, and there would have been plenty of justification for it had they progressed right. You don't even need to call plays as a head coach, just learn how to delegate. I had no problem with him getting the OC job, but thought he would have made a better HC than OC. It takes a certain creative mind to be able to call plays at the high level and Brian and Kirk made a potential $150 million gamble that probably would have been paid to Brian throughout his HC tenure had he stayed and salaries continue to rise.

It's still only the first year and next season will show a lot on if BF is up for the task or not, but my god, has this been horrible.

FFS

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

1. If IIRC, Brian's yards per play is the 3rd highest in all Kirk's years at Iowa. I'd say that's pretty good.
2. I'm not sure Brian has the demeanor to be a HC. I can't get his juvenile outburst out of my mind. I hear little rumors all the time and just wonder about him.
3. Though I think Brian will get the job, I've been hearing a lot of things over the last couple years and I have an odd feeling that the best candidate for the HC job might actually be Levar Woods. I've not heard that stated, but every single thing you hear about Levar is nothing but great. Plus he's an Iowan, has NFL experience, and is a genuinely good man.
4. @Wahawk56 , great to see you posting again!!!

It's early yet - but I've been pretty pleased with the Hawk offense over the past two games. There's always room for improvement ... but with the return of guys like ISM and IKM ... that helps to add a little extra "octane" to the tank.

 

[HawkIDrummer]

An offensive coordinator will never flourish under KFz.

 

[scotthawk1964]

If Brian will continue to open up the offense, I think they will continue to get better each week and be very good by years end. If we take care of business and can run the table, and if Bucky drops a pair we could be very tough if we could make it to Indy. But if anyone is looking for a ball control team to be in the top offensive categories is fooling themselves.

 

[Crazy Hawk]

95th scoring offense and 82nd total offense.
5th in total defense and 6th in scoring defense.

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/27/p2

This right here is what is keeping Iowa from being a top 15 program...consistently.

At this point, there is no excuse for Iowa's inconsistencies on offense. This is year two of an offense that consist of solid returning players at every position with the exception of receiver (case can be made if the returners are solid or not--meaning they are still in the development stage for the most part). This bye week is huge in regards to the offense moving forward.

For the record I was in favor of BF as OC. I'm also hoping he shows enough to be a serious contender for the HC when it comes available. If nothing else, that means the offense has become respectable on a consistent basis. I also said when BF was introduced that this has started the time table of KF's end. If this move works, BF will take over. If it doesn't, KF retires and BF goes elsewhere.

 

[Titanhawk2]

Maybe he wanted to be, he's done a decent job and doing better certainly ups his market value

 

[Hawktimism]

Way to revive a year old thread...

But I'm happy with what I've seen with BF as OC. There have been hiccups just like with a new QB or anything... takes a bit to work out the kinks. But he's showing progress and so are the players. I would really like to see this team respond by blowing the doors off of the ground squirrels (gophers don't have stripes... look it up).

 

[Layoutman]

Nepotism is an ugly practice.

The players and the fans deserve to have the best OC available. Sad but true fact is Barta and Daddy did not even interview other potential OC candidates...Instead they just handed him the keys to the offence....

It's time for him to get his ass back in the booth and focus entirely on the offense .

He needs fired if the offense is ranked anywhere near it was last year. But that will not happen because Uncle Gary) won't fire him after an abysmal first year performance along with bringing shame on the University by conduct unbecoming of a professional coach. Nepotism...

Why don't we hear anything about Phil Parker getting a HC job? The guys has skills but is he to "loyal" to jump ship?

 

[iowa12]

But it certainly could cost him the job. Kirk was never a coordinator other than prep school.
look at dabo Sweeney, went from wr coach to head coach. It could be done, and there would have been plenty of justification for it had they progressed right. You don't even need to call plays as a head coach, just learn how to delegate. I had no problem with him getting the OC job, but thought he would have made a better HC than OC. It takes a certain creative mind to be able to call plays at the high level and Brian and Kirk made a potential $150 million gamble that probably would have been paid to Brian throughout his HC tenure had he stayed and salaries continue to rise.

It's still only the first year and next season will show a lot on if BF is up for the task or not, but my god, has this been horrible.

Centers aren’t offensive coordinators...anywhere in college

 

[anon_gjzkhykcp9iuj]

If Brian will continue to open up the offense, I think they will continue to get better each week and be very good by years end. If we take care of business and can run the table, and if Bucky drops a pair we could be very tough if we could make it to Indy. But if anyone is looking for a ball control team to be in the top offensive categories is fooling themselves.

Nobody is asking for the offense to be at the top of statistical categories. Folks are asking that the offense be at least somewhere in the top 65 or so. Mediocre would be an improvement.

Nepotism is an ugly practice.

The players and the fans deserve to have the best OC available. Sad but true fact is Barta and Daddy did not even interview other potential OC candidates...Instead they just handed him the keys to the offence....

It's time for him to get his ass back in the booth and focus entirely on the offense .

He needs fired if the offense is ranked anywhere near it was last year. But that will not happen because Uncle Gary) won't fire him after an abysmal first year performance along with bringing shame on the University by conduct unbecoming of a professional coach. Nepotism...

Why don't we hear anything about Phil Parker getting a HC job? The guys has skills but is he to "loyal" to jump ship?

Phil doesn't want to be a HC.

 

[scotthawk1964]

Nobody is asking for the offense to be at the top of statistical categories. Folks are asking that the offense be at least somewhere in the top 65 or so. Mediocre would be an improvement.



Phil doesn't want to be a HC.

I'm just wanting to win, I really don't care where we rate statistically.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

Centers aren’t offensive coordinators...anywhere in college

Yeah, that's a winning argument. Just look at what happened to a former Harvard president when he attempted to apply that same sort of logic ....

 

[IsaacHarrison]

I think KF gave BF a position where he could never succeed. I think its just as much KF controlling things as it is BF lack of experience that is causing the problem. Unless something comes out of the woodwork, KF will probably look back and regret this decision. I was hoping that KF would give BF keys with very few limitations so he lets BF create his own destiny, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

 

[iowa12]

Yeah, that's a winning argument. Just look at what happened to a former Harvard president when he attempted to apply that same sort of logic ....

It is because it’s true and speaks to the results

 

[Ed Horton]

I can't believe people are so down on BF. He will be a great HC somewhere and then you can complain about letting him get away. This offense is going to be very good this year. Watch what happens when it the cold weather hits

 

[Hawktimism]

Nebraska ran a few pretty good coaches out of town because they thought they could do better too... sure seems to be working out for them.

 

[Ripcord280]

In the simplest possible words I know, the BF experiment is nepotism. Nothing more and nothing less until he proves otherwise.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

I was hoping that KF would give BF keys with very few limitations so he lets BF create his own destiny, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

Do you have any evidence that suggests that BF would do anything differently if KF wasn't the HC? Has any coach, ever, left the program and said he couldn't stand KF's micromanaging? What is it about KF that leads some fans to think he has a stranglehold on his assistants, and that he makes every single offensive and defensive call?

Yes, there is the "KF way" - program guidelines, etc. But isn't that what a HC is supposed to do?

I just don't get it.

 

[paladinhawk]

95th scoring offense and 82nd total offense.
5th in total defense and 6th in scoring defense.

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/27/p2

I'm a convert to the argument that it's better to use offensive efficiency when discussing Iowa. They will always have a low ranking for total offense, as part of their plan is to use up a lot of clock.

They are 60th; while not great by any means it is basically the definition of average. Let's give the Hawks another 3 or 4 games and see where they are then.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings/_/sort/offEfficiency/tab/efficiency

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

It is because it’s true and speaks to the results

You need to learn some real science .... and then you'll realize that blind empiricism never proves a darn thing!

 

[Section8]

In the simplest possible words I know, the BF experiment is nepotism. Nothing more and nothing less until he proves otherwise.

And another two sons to fit into the system.

 

[Irvin 88]

-------So when we go for it on fourth down, we know we’re going for it on fourth down on Friday afternoon when we sit down and meet and make our strategy for the game.

No wonder we are so brilliant at halftime adjustments with logic like this....did he REALLY say that that they decide to go for it the week prior to the game? This is KF driven all the way.....Captain Cautious. So for a week they knew they would use that QB sneak, when we were pounding away with the run game? Pffffftttt!!!!

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

-------So when we go for it on fourth down, we know we’re going for it on fourth down on Friday afternoon when we sit down and meet and make our strategy for the game.

No wonder we are so brilliant at halftime adjustments with logic like this....did he REALLY say that that they decide to go for it the week prior to the game? This is KF driven all the way.....Captain Cautious. So for a week they knew they would use that QB sneak, when we were pounding away with the run game? Pffffftttt!!!!

The suggestion is that they knew that they would proceed with an aggressive tack. Furthermore, they'd know, based on the situation what sort of calls they'd make. That's not surprising ... nor is it a poor strategy. They've presumably been practicing a lot of their short distance plays quite a bit too. That's why you plan ahead.

As for second half adjustments ... the Hawks have been pretty good at that with Brian at the helm of the O. The bigger issue for the Hawks have been slow starts.

 

[Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll]

Nebraska ran a few pretty good coaches out of town because they thought they could do better too... sure seems to be working out for them.

Hahaha this takes the cake. Yes, let's use one of the most fickle self entitled fanbases as an example of why we need to be patient to one of the most patient fanbases in America. GTFO.