You're not actually comparing him to Dan Campbell are you? The guy is one helluva coach. And maybe even a better guy.
Brian Ferentz to UNI
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Brian knows nothing but silver spoon upper crust money no object programs.
FCS would be a very rude awakening to him. I think the Iowa Football Coaching staff salaries is more than the entire UNI athletic budget.
FCS would be a very rude awakening to him. I think the Iowa Football Coaching staff salaries is more than the entire UNI athletic budget.
Aeons ago, I attended UNI (formerly ISTC).
It was a beneficial time as it kept me out of 'Nam.
I continue to value that institution.
Therefore please do not wish such a HENIOUS CURSE on us UNI alumni as hiring Biff at UNI!!!
It was a beneficial time as it kept me out of 'Nam.
I continue to value that institution.
Therefore please do not wish such a HENIOUS CURSE on us UNI alumni as hiring Biff at UNI!!!
Farley bleeds purple and gold and will always have the respect of most UNI fans, despite the recent struggles. His contract runs through next year. They won't buy it out, but I'm hoping he's ready to move on -- hopefully to a development role for the athletic department, getting the Dome renovation done.
UNI is a totally different kind of job, and with the four Dakota schools spending like they are FBS instead of FCS, it becomes nearly impossible to compete with them. If the Board of Regents allows UNI to offer reciprocal tuition to surrounding states, that would be a huge help.
With the transfer portal really hitting schools like UNI hard, the job needs someone who is able to adapt and quickly adjust to put together a mostly new team year after year. Someone who can do it with really limited resources.
Brian would know how to build a long term deveopmental program with virtually every possible resource at his desposal. That's the opposite of what UNI needs.
UNI is a totally different kind of job, and with the four Dakota schools spending like they are FBS instead of FCS, it becomes nearly impossible to compete with them. If the Board of Regents allows UNI to offer reciprocal tuition to surrounding states, that would be a huge help.
With the transfer portal really hitting schools like UNI hard, the job needs someone who is able to adapt and quickly adjust to put together a mostly new team year after year. Someone who can do it with really limited resources.
Brian would know how to build a long term deveopmental program with virtually every possible resource at his desposal. That's the opposite of what UNI needs.
I said BF would be a better HC than OC, and did not weigh him against other potential candidates. HCs need a background that gives them knowledge of the game and they need skills/expertise/experience in things like leadership and organization. Ideally, they can be both transformational and transactional leaders as needed.
No doubt many other coaches have the potential and desire to be college HCs. BF may eventually get his chance, he may not. I disagree with you, though, that he's "just a guy" to everyone outside of Iowa fans. What's going to give him a leg up relative to most of those other 2900 coaches is that he worked for Kirk and Belichick, and now with Mike Locksley (and whoever else he's able to work with following his current gig). He's dealing with the baggage issue now. BF will be much more likely to get an interview than anyone who is just a guy.
I’ve always thought Brian would be a better coach than an OC. But he’s also one of the worst OCs in big ten football history, so the bar is low and I think you and me could do better than him at OC.
All I mean is that neither are known for being good technical coaches, and both seem like they are better at coaching attitude and mindset.
Dan "one ass cheek and three toes" Campbell was smart enough not to try his hand at being a coordinator, which probably would have sunk his career. And yes, Campbell is a much better guy and coach, and his reputation and career trajectory are proof of that.
And he has his almost record breaking standard of offensive disfunction to add to his business card, making him stand out over the other 2900 who would have been forced to change occupations if they had been as poor at their job as BF was at his.
I don’t mean to be rude here but no. Just no. I think you would have a very hard time selling him to any fan base after his tenure at Iowa.
I also don’t think he has the temperament for a head coach. Just my opinion.
Brian's only opportunity to become a HC is if KF takes an AD job somewhere to hire him.
His ceiling is a position coach at the FCS, maybe even eventually G5 level. Nothing wrong with that, would make him a good career.
Nothing wrong at all, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a position coach position in FBS or even NFL within a couple years. Look where he now - offense consultant at Maryland.
BF wouldn't be hired by Wapello as the head coach at this point. UNI fans, alumni, and athletics could never be sold on a BF era as head coach. I'm not even sure the board of regents would rubber stamp it. BF is a disaster and wouldn't be better as a head coach than an OC. He has the arrogance, but not the skill or personality to get up the the Dakota's at the FCS level.
While this is technically true, you left out the more relevant question:
How many successful head coaches have failed as a coordinator?
I bet it's a very short list.
Right now, BF isn't viable as HC, except perhaps at a D-III or HS. I never said otherwise. He may eventually get a shot, though, if he is successful in other roles, as he was before becoming OC. (BF even had some success at OC while O'Keefe was around to mentor him and before he tried to simplify the offense.)
You and some others are ignoring the good ol' boy coaching network. BF has already made a soft landing at Maryland working with a HC who had failed miserably in his previous HC gig.
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It was kind of funny how Lockesly said he had a soft spot in his heart for sons of coaches. Like he hired Brian out of pity or something.
He is paying it forward, too. Nick Saban gave Locksley an opportunity after he had a 2-26 record at New Mexico before getting fired 4 games into his third season.
Obviously Daddy runs the O. Who knows what he can do if he's the boss.
Same show every year regardless of the coordinator.
Kirk's ego won't let him give up the reins.
He's so narcissist he doesn't even realize he is one of the worst offensive minds in all of college football.
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He will never coach anything at UNI. Way to much familiarity.
There are 2 types of UNI fans. The dual fans, they like both teams usually equally or close to it. The other is the I hate everything about Iowa fans. Both would revolt if BF would be named HC.
There are 2 types of UNI fans. The dual fans, they like both teams usually equally or close to it. The other is the I hate everything about Iowa fans. Both would revolt if BF would be named HC.
UNI is in a bad spot in FCS football. They have to play 2 FBS teams on the road each season to help pay the bills and then they play in the MVC which is loaded with powerhouse FB programs. Little NIL money to entice recruits or transfers. Their glory days are over. They're on a 5-game losing streak with a ranked MO State team coming in and then it's off to #1 NDSU. A 3-win season is possible. Farley might just say eff it sooner than later.
As far as BF being their next HC.......... I don't think he will even be considered.
Umm, are you saying that like it's a positive thing? Do you realize that's a made-up, low-as-you-can-go job that someone gets out of pity when they've hit rock-bottom and they need to put something on their resume that says they were some kind of coach that year?
It is positive when the alternative is unemployment. These consulting gigs can pay pretty well and they help a lot of coaches to transition to significant positions. New NCAA rules allow consultants to coach players directly. Steve Sarkisian went to Alabama as a consultant after being fired at USC and then became Nick's OC before becoming HC at Texas. Paul Chryst has been a consultant for Sark at Texas. For Iowa, Jon Budmayr moved from consultant to WR coach and Tim Lester was a consultant for the Pack last year.
So, it is actually more positive than you presume.
OP just sitting back after starting this ridiculous thread and taking it all in!
One thing we can all agree on is that Brian won't be the next HC at UNI.
Welp Farley has announced this season will be his last. Announced today.
Went to CF and watched them play Illinois State yesterday. They had dropped TDs or would have been much closer. Defense just does not look anything like a typical UNI defense.
Went to CF and watched them play Illinois State yesterday. They had dropped TDs or would have been much closer. Defense just does not look anything like a typical UNI defense.
Lockesly seems like a good guy and a good coach. Maryland is improving each season and sits in a great area for recruiting.
Actually our offense has improved significantly this season.
33-38 overall at Maryland and 16-37 in the Big Ten. Uh, that’s not great my man.
You do realize the offensive talent currently on the field are Brian's recruits?
It would be better if Wallace would get the job. Then we don't have to worry about him being hired to replace Ferentz.
Guys... seriously. Stop with the Iowa coaches to UNI stuff.
1. It's just not a good fit.
2. Seth Wallace makes a million dollars a year right now. He's not taking a $700K paycut to become a FCS head coach.
1. It's just not a good fit.
2. Seth Wallace makes a million dollars a year right now. He's not taking a $700K paycut to become a FCS head coach.
Is there any precedent for staff members being retained with an HC change let alone an assistant being promoted to HC at the same D1 school? I always see people begging for Wallace or Woods, but outside of this board never heard of it.
Based on her handling of the BF thing, I don't think Goetz wants to tie herself to any of this existing staff.
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