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Bridge Collapse Baltimore

What a mess. It will be interesting if enhanced pier protection becomes a requirement on existing and future bridges. I’m not sure how feasible it would be when dealing with ships of that size though.
One of the points being made this morning was that the tugs had peeled off once it got into the main channel due to cost. Will there be a requirement in some areas to have tug boats escort ships that can bring a bridge down past any hazards?
 
One of the points being made this morning was that the tugs had peeled off once it got into the main channel due to cost. Will there be a requirement in some areas to have tug boats escort ships that can bring a bridge down past any hazards?
Seems prudent.

Time to invest in Tug companies :)
 
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Easily. Side note, just talking to a bud who's a civil engineer and he was explaining that a decent suburban 8 lane intersection costs about 1.5 million to build at least.

1.6 mile bridge is a lot of cash.
That’s probably just for the bridge itself. The environmental impact study will probably cost as much as the bridge will.
 
One of the points being made this morning was that the tugs had peeled off once it got into the main channel due to cost. Will there be a requirement in some areas to have tug boats escort ships that can bring a bridge down past any hazards?
I am not a maritime expert by any means, but when I first saw this terrible footage I said to myself, "Are there no tugboats present to guide such a big ship?".

Again, that thought may not be practical, but it does seem a little odd to me that such a vulnerable pillar would be "open" to being hit by passing freighters. That being said, I am really sorry for all of those people that were caught up in such a terrible accident AND for all of the people that will now have to deal the absence of that bridge for however long it takes to rebuild it.

I would imagine though that the shipping lane(s) could be cleared in a relatively short period of time. But I really don't know that, it just seems like if that port is that critical that there will be a herculean effort starting ASAP to make a way for ships to get in and out of that port.
 
In the video I've seen of the accident one clip is from the opposite side as the one the ship was coming from. At the immediate time of impact there was a flash, which I assume was a wall of water coming up as the ship went up and over the barrier protecting the supports for the bridge.
Side point about reconstruction, I assume that the approaches and undamaged sections will be used in the replacement span. So, maybe that takes a few years off the effort, but it will be months to pull all the debris out of the water and clear the channel. Maybe some smaller ships get out before that, but it's going to be months to get anything approaching normal traffic in and out of the port.
Big bridges are going to get a lot more expensive to build going forward as they now will now try to design the footers able to withstand accidental impacts from giant ships.
 
That plus there is a strong current I am sure. It is still a river. What you see there is clearly the boat being pushed by the current.
I don't think people realize how hard it is to control the momentum of a 95,000 ton vessel. Especially if you're losing power and steering.

I've crashed into a pier with a friggin pontoon boat :)
 
That’s probably just for the bridge itself. The environmental impact study will probably cost as much as the bridge will.
I want to say the going rate for a new interstate exit with an over pass bridge and four ramps is 70-120 million, depending on location, for perspective.
 
CNN is reporting that the ship dropped its anchor in a futile attempt to slow down.
 
I love how many non experts who have no idea what they are talking about jump in and throw in their hot take as though they understand not only bridge engineering but how large cargo ships are steered.

Speaking of that has Trump weighed in yet to tell us how this is all Biden's fault and he would have prevented this accident.
 
I don't think people realize how hard it is to control the momentum of a 95,000 ton vessel. Especially if you're losing power and steering.

I've crashed into a pier with a friggin pontoon boat :)
It’s the interwebz where if you have been on your friend’s Bayliner you are qualified to render opinions about steering a cargo ship—-Newtonian physics be damned.
 
They should put those styrofoam pool noodles around the stanchions to prevent this.


Trump, probably
 
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I love how many non experts who have no idea what they are talking about jump in and throw in their hot take as though they understand not only bridge engineering but how large cargo ships are steered.

Speaking of that has Trump weighed in yet to tell us how this is all Biden's fault and he would have prevented this accident.
MAGA summed up perfectly
 
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It's like there's a competition on Fox Opinion Network to "out stupid" each other.

Bartiromo at one time was well respected when she was the "money honey" on CNBC.
Steve Martin Idk GIF
 
What a mess. It will be interesting to see if enhanced pier protection becomes a requirement on existing and future bridges. I’m not sure how feasible it would be when dealing with ships of that size though.
I have to assume that happens from now on since we have a modern example. Their called 'dolphins' and after the Skyway bridge disaster they built them to protect the new one. I don't think they're commonplace though, I think the Skyway is a rare example.
 
I went to Wikipedia to see how old the bridge was. That last note seems a bit unnecessary.

History
Construction start1972[1]
OpenedMarch 23, 1977
DestroyedMarch 26, 2024
TollYes (prior to collapse)
 
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