No chance. Iowa would have to beat a top 5 OSU or MSU. Do that and no chance Iowa/B1G is left out.
*providing we are talking 13-0 Iowa not 12-1 Iowa. (that won the B1G CG)
Bruce Feldman: Iowa a Top 4 Team in the Country
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*providing we are talking 13-0 Iowa not 12-1 Iowa. (that won the B1G CG)
If Iowa loses can we come up with some excuse and say it was a fluke and stay in the top 10? what do you think?
Speaking of being ranked 4th:
Iowa, which had gone a combined 19-19 in the three seasons prior to 2015, was picked to finish fourth in the West Division in the preseason media poll conducted by Cleveland.com.
Iowa, which had gone a combined 19-19 in the three seasons prior to 2015, was picked to finish fourth in the West Division in the preseason media poll conducted by Cleveland.com.
Oh I'm sure some of you will come up with a conspiracy about how the officials are against us. Hell, most of you think ESPN is out to get Iowa anyway.
I think these rankings are based solely on a blind resume as to what the teams have done thus far against the opponents they have played thus far, which is how it should be. Based on that Iowa would be ranked much higher than 10 as they are now, maybe not 4th but after this weekend it is quite possible that Iowa is deserving of a top 6 ranking (NW win looking better (especially on the road), only a handful of teams have won in Madison in the past 10 years so that is nice, and with Pitt continuing to win also helps. Objectively looking at a teams body of work Iowa is deserving a higher ranking
Swag, I remember you being extremely bile all summer long and I also remember having several arguments with you about KF and this team this year and I had not heard from you in a while and was very excited about that fact. Now that you are on here can you explain this post back in August? "So if we go 5-7 or 6-6 will you shut up or shame the rest of us for not believing your 10-2 BS?" You fearlessly predicted 6-6 and were a complete dick to many who were a bit more optimistic. I only bring this up because you are probably one of the biggest dicks on here and although I do not always disagree with what you say, you can be a complete dick most of the time (as shown by one of your many memorable quotes that you can see above).... my question is: Why can't you hold yourself to the same standards that you posted back in August (see in red above)...obviously your 6-6 5-7 prediction did not come true so is it time for you to taste your own medicine?
LOL.....what the hell do you know.....it is like a broken record with you, somebody disagrees with you, you end up being a douche because they have a different opinion, you end up being wrong, and then you continue the same cycle over and over.....please do us all a favor and stop projecting yourself out to be some expert all the time.....do you not remember this summer and all your doom and gloom and Hawkeye hating about no more than 6 wins and constantly arguing with people who were a bit more optimistic....going back and checking your posting history is quite comical...especially prior to the season....before you say anything else to anybody you need to your crow or just STFU
It was a prediction dumb dumb, I'm entitled to it as everyone else on this board is. I also believe I wasn't alone as at least half the members of the lounge agreed. I also believe Vegas set the over under at 7.5, so I couldn't be that far off. The real comical thing, is you trying to crow once the team is 7-0.
You said we went back and forth this summer, no we didn't. Funny I don't remember speaking to you until this season. I'd love to see your predictions for 2010-2015. Btw, last year I predicted 9-3. Don't seem to recall you or anyone else having a problem with that one. Oh that's right, you only come around when the team performs well.
And this is why I love college football and hope they stay at a playoff with 4 teams. Every game counts. You can't afford flukes. If you want to be one of the 4 best you have to bring it every week.
I was here all summer saying at least 9 wins this year and yes I was in the minority and many agreed with your predictions. However, they were not complete dicks about it like you were....I was waiting for you to come around bc I remembered your snarky responses all summer and they continue on this thread as well. My predictions have been way off many years (mostly due to optimism) but I ate my crow and certainly was humbled many times...was hoping you would have been humbled after this summer but apparently not
You were waiting for me to come around? What are you talking about, I'm on here more than I probably should be. Oh, I admitted my prediction was wrong (check out Torbees podcast BEFORE the NW game) I predicted a win btw.
Also, if you do listen to it you will realize it wasn't just this past season that made me and a lot of others skeptical. It started back in 2010, and continued to build. You have seen this reflected with the lower than normal season ticket purchases (which is happening thoughout football) however ours was like 13% decline.
Even now some games aren't sold out, and we're 7-0. I'm very happy we are undefeated. Do I think we are a top 4 team ....... no not really. You think that's negative, sorry that's reality.
I think OSU is clearly better. I think we would give OSU more trouble than people might think, and with the ball bouncing the right way, would have a shot at coming out on top...but that is not a good matchup for us. I think that Alabama has better athletes, but this Iowa team is of the same mold that used to routinely take down SEC teams full of superior athletes, and Alabama has shown that they have some rough edges this year. Much the same with LSU. I don't think that Baylor is clearly better than Iowa. People poo-poo our schedule, but if we had theirs we would also be 7-0 and averaging 50+ a game. I mean, ISU is one of their more impressive wins. Putting up playstation numbers against SMU, LAMAR, Rice, Texas Tech, ISU, and Kansas is nice...but a lot of teams can do that. Including us.
I think there is still a lot of football left to be played, and nobody in the top ten or so has shown that they are head and shoulders above the rest. OSU may be starting to. Iowa's resume and performance thus far is significantly better than most are giving them credit for.
When you play a game there is always a shot, speaking on probability is another thing entirely. I think you have seen glimpses of who OSU is. That first quarter against V Tech and yesterday against Rutgers. Personally, I think those kids get bored and need motivation.
Michigan and MSU will give them that. Last years CCG against Wisconsin (who you could argue is just as good as we are) got 50 pointed last year. OSU, was motivated and exercised demons, first against Wisconsin, then Alabama, and finally Oregon.
That squad is dangerous with Barrett at that QB position. You give them motivation, and I believe it gets ugly against the Hawks. I'd rather play MSU, we have a much better shot.
I want OSU.
Then I will take Baylor and finish it up with LSU.
Then I will take Baylor and finish it up with LSU.
I agree. Which is why I said that OSU is clearly better. If they are playing their A game...I just don't think we can keep up. I think we would play significantly more respectable than Wisconsin did last year. Last year Wisconsin had a decent defense, but there were some pretty big holes in it as well, especially for a team like OSU to exploit...and their offense was Melvin Gordon. If you could shut him down, then they were not scary at all. OSU had the athletes to do it. Even as flawed as we were defensively last year, we bottled him up pretty well. Obviously he broke some big runs against us, especially late in the game, but just about every RB with any talent ran all over us last year. OSU definitely had a chip on their shoulder in that game though.
I think Iowa this year is a lot better than you are giving them credit for though. They have not done anything with smoke and mirrors. There is nothing fluky about us. Wins against Pitt, @Wisconsin, and @NW are legit wins. Illinois was a better win than anyone will give us credit for as well. Up to this point, I don't think that anyone else in the country has a significantly more impressive resume than we do if you actually look at it.
I agree. Which is why I said that OSU is clearly better. If they are playing their A game...I just don't think we can keep up. I think we would play significantly more respectable than Wisconsin did last year. Last year Wisconsin had a decent defense, but there were some pretty big holes in it as well, especially for a team like OSU to exploit...and their offense was Melvin Gordon. If you could shut him down, then they were not scary at all. OSU had the athletes to do it. Even as flawed as we were defensively last year, we bottled him up pretty well. Obviously he broke some big runs against us, especially late in the game, but just about every RB with any talent ran all over us last year. OSU definitely had a chip on their shoulder in that game though.
I think Iowa this year is a lot better than you are giving them credit for though. They have not done anything with smoke and mirrors. There is nothing fluky about us. Wins against Pitt, @Wisconsin, and @NW are legit wins. Illinois was a better win than anyone will give us credit for as well. Up to this point, I don't think that anyone else in the country has a significantly more impressive resume than we do if you actually look at it.
Some of you are saying that Iowa absolutely isn't a top 4 team. Why not? I'm not saying they absolutely are, but I see them as almost as good of a pick as anyone else. Yes, Iowa would have their hands full against OSU, Alabama, LSU, etc, but they would have their hands full as well. Those teams have had scares against unranked teams and/or have their own issues at key positions. Iowa has a better QB than some of those teams (and he can run too), our 4th string RB ran for over 200 yards (how many teams can say that?), we have one of the nation's leaders in interceptions, and our run defense is 5th in the country if I remember right.
In any given year, if we went up against a team that could claim all of that, it would be a scary game. Instead, it is everyone left on our schedule that is facing that, because that is us. Year in and year out, top teams get scares, and even drop one or two. So far this year, we are playing comparably to anyone else. Why not Iowa?
In any given year, if we went up against a team that could claim all of that, it would be a scary game. Instead, it is everyone left on our schedule that is facing that, because that is us. Year in and year out, top teams get scares, and even drop one or two. So far this year, we are playing comparably to anyone else. Why not Iowa?
IT. WON'T. MATTER.
Go 13-0 and we're in the playoff. Go 12-1 and we're probably not in the playoff unless some other P5 champs have 2 losses.
So please, please, please STOP complaining about this. IT. WON'T. MATTER.
[Although I epperman, post: 1066154, member: 3224"]IT. WON'T. MATTER.
Go 13-0 and we're in the playoff. Go 12-1 and we're probably not in the playoff unless some other P5 champs have 2 losses.
So please, please, please STOP complaining about this. IT. WON'T. MATTER.[/QUOTE]
Although I think there is a scenario where determining the rose bowl between a one loss Iowa and a one loss MSU comes down to the committee rankings. I think.
But of course there's so much football left to be played that you're right, there's no reason to complain yet.
Go 13-0 and we're in the playoff. Go 12-1 and we're probably not in the playoff unless some other P5 champs have 2 losses.
So please, please, please STOP complaining about this. IT. WON'T. MATTER.[/QUOTE]
Although I think there is a scenario where determining the rose bowl between a one loss Iowa and a one loss MSU comes down to the committee rankings. I think.
But of course there's so much football left to be played that you're right, there's no reason to complain yet.
It's not about Iowa dummy. It's about the SEC bias and narrative to prop them up at all costs. Again, not about iowa.
Um, that top 10 had three B10 teams and 1 SEC team. However you read the write-up, the numbers of teams matters. Plus ... Iowa over OSU right now?!?!?! That's pushing it. I think Iowa matches up well against MSU and UM right now, but OSU is another story. I think it's a little early to place Iowa in the top 4 and whining about the SEC in this article seems a little suspect -- even Alabama didn't make the cut which is remarkable because they are probably the best SEC team -- including LSU.
I think we'd do better against OSU than many think as well. Heck, the last time we played them in 2013, the two were neck and neck for most of the game. I believe we'd fare better against the run than we did against Braxton Miller and Carlos Hyde, and I think our run game would be better than the Bullock/Weisman duo that combined for just over 100 yards that day. Maybe we wouldn't win, but I would bet that Iowa would be well prepared and make it an entertaining game to say the least.
Good points. Injuries will tell a story. Lots of currently undefeated teams will lose between now and 6 weeks from now.
Lots of football to be played. Who the hell knows what will happen. I am just glad Iowa is relevant in the national conversation. This is fun for fans and should give us some momentum for 2017 recruiting!
IMO, the point we're missing here is that stuff like this (and Mike Hall's tweets) are the start to changing the narrative regarding our schedule. Are we better than OSU and/or MSU? Hopefully that answer is made on the field. But in the meantime media countering the schedule argument is a good thing - and dropping us smack dap in the top 4, ahead of OSU and MSU brings that issue to center stage. No complaints from me.
With FSU and Utah losing that really makes it a clear path for us to be in playoffs IF we can handle our business and pull off an "upset" in BigTen Title Game....much rather keep undervaluing the Hawkeyes in the polls at this point because it really doesn't matter
