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BTT double-bye officially one win away
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That's beautiful seeing the odds for Wisconsin's seeds. I'd love to see them have to play Wed. night.
Nice info here! Just win Hawks!!!
Since we have not been to one since 1999, it is a good place to start.
Maybe I'm wrong, but this has to be pretty close to the best finish for a Big Ten team after starting 0-3 ASSUMING we beat Neb
Based on Hlas article this morning Iowa needs to beat Nebby and Northwestern needs to lose 1 more game.
From what I understand
IOWA just seems to have MSUs number more often than Wisky every year, regardless how good the teams are. I'd take MSU in the tourney personally. But Wisky wouldn't be a write off.
If we get to play Wisconsin again we need to come out shooting hot and burry them.
Deflate them and they will fold like a cheap tent in a storm.
Deflate them and they will fold like a cheap tent in a storm.
Is that the thread where someone predicted an 0-20 BIG record for Iowa?
What a coincidence that we get a shitty Nebby team at home again to finish the season. All they have to play for is to be a spoiler. Hope we show up and take care of business this time.
It makes me sick to my stomach to ever root for Illinois, but it would be sweet if they could knock off Michigan tonight.
No, but only being there 2-3 times in the past 40 years indicates our general irrelevance on a national stage in men's BB.
Was he talking for the 2 seed? Because I cannot find any scenarios where Iowa does not get a double bye if they beat Nebraska.
They were just one game and a trip up I-35 from nailing it, to be fair
also who is iowa’s most valuable bb player and is the backup capable?
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Iowa is already in the Double-Bye, no worse than 3-4 seed (can someone confirm please?)
2nd seed hinges on Iowa beating Debby and M-GO Blow losing to Illinois OR Indiana.
Then, the first Tie-Breaker awards the 2nd seed to Iowa because, Iowa would be the Team with best Round Robin Record among all Teams with equal Win/Loss records tied for 2nd!
Anyone notice the strange resemblance to our Big Ten season ending home game opponent for Football...with the 2nd seed on the line? Another game where Nebraska has nothing to loose, no NCAA bid on the line, no B1G Tourney Double Bye to win. Geesh, how do you spell "Spoiler alert!"
I hope we are 100% healthy and we are prepared for a very feisty Debby team.
What an incredible entertaining season none the less.
Go Hawks.
2nd seed hinges on Iowa beating Debby and M-GO Blow losing to Illinois OR Indiana.
Then, the first Tie-Breaker awards the 2nd seed to Iowa because, Iowa would be the Team with best Round Robin Record among all Teams with equal Win/Loss records tied for 2nd!
Anyone notice the strange resemblance to our Big Ten season ending home game opponent for Football...with the 2nd seed on the line? Another game where Nebraska has nothing to loose, no NCAA bid on the line, no B1G Tourney Double Bye to win. Geesh, how do you spell "Spoiler alert!"
I hope we are 100% healthy and we are prepared for a very feisty Debby team.
What an incredible entertaining season none the less.
Go Hawks.
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The matrix above still shows the possibility for Iowa to end up as low as an 8 seed. If they beat Nebby, it's double buy regardless
So basically, Rutgers NEEDS to beat Northwestern in NJ on Sunday night - even with a Hawk win over Nebby? To make sure Iowa ends up as the 2-seed??
GO @MrsScrew and Scarlet Knights!!
(but like I said elsewhere, I wouldn't cry if ended up as the 3-seed instead)
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That also depends on Maryland. If NW wins and Maryland loses and we win, then we are the 3 and NW the 2. If Maryland, NW and Iowa win, then we are the 2.
Honestly I don't think it matters because there is so much parody top to bottom that aside from Minnesota almost everyone can beat anyone because there are a lot of good teams, yet, no team is complete.
Any good reason the B1G scheduled 6 of the 7 final games on Sunday, instead of splitting it up more like 3-5 or 4-4? Availability of TV slots, maybe??
Makes for a full Sunday, which is great, but the lone B1G game on Saturday is OSU @ MSU. And it tips at 11a. Will have lots of other games to watch if want, but really light on immediate [IE, conference game] rooting interests.
Makes for a full Sunday, which is great, but the lone B1G game on Saturday is OSU @ MSU. And it tips at 11a. Will have lots of other games to watch if want, but really light on immediate [IE, conference game] rooting interests.
Actually any possibility of Iowa getting a 2 seed runs through Michigan losing one of their 2 final games. If that happens (which seems likely) then the only other thing Iowa has to avoid is a 3 way tie between Iowa, NW, and Indiana because in that scenario both NW and Iowa have beat Indiana twice so the tiebreaker would be NW win over Purdue.
But, yeah, I wouldn't cry over a 3 seed either. Really it's all coming down to quarterfinal matchups, I wouldn't like Iowa's chances having to beat Indiana a 3rd time.
I think a #2 or #3 seed are most likely.
I don't see any scenarios they fall below a 3, based on the head-head records among most of the top finishers.
Only if Mich were to "win out" and lock in a #2 seed would Iowa possibly fall to #4. And I don't see Mich beating Indiana on the road; I think they'll likely lose to Illinois tonight.
Also do not see Illinois among the top seeds as they'd have to beat Purdue on the road on Senior Day there.
The likely tie-up of teams at 12-8 (assuming Iowa takes care of business at home vs Nebraska) will be:
- MSU
- NW/Rutgers (depending on who wins there)
- Indiana
- Maryland (if they beat PSU on the road)
Iowa will have the best cumulative record against all of those teams in the tiebreakers, and only NW can beat them out of the #2 seed in the seeding scenarios
(NW in head-head via their 1-0 record vs Purdue; MSU would drop to #3 seed in head-head based on 1-1 record vs Mich vs Iowa 1-0). Iowa would beat every other team in head-head games, and I think will rise to the top 2-3 seed in all the cumulative records scenarios vs most of them. We have 2 total losses against most of the teams who will finish tied; everyone else has multiple losses.
Unless I missed something here.
2 or 3 seed is far preferred over a #4/5, which will have to play Purdue in the quarterfinals.
I do not see Mich winning back to back road games vs Illinois and Indiana - particularly after Indiana laid that giant egg against us on Tuesday. Indiana will not lose on Senior Day, IMO.
They hang a banner for going to the NCAA tournament and the NIT too.
Good link: shows Iowa holds 2-team tiebreaker over everyone but NW.
50% odds on #2 seed (next highest probability is Mich at 20%, NW at 13%)
I see very little chance of Mich winning out on the road at Illinois and Indiana
www.playoffstatus.com
50% odds on #2 seed (next highest probability is Mich at 20%, NW at 13%)
I see very little chance of Mich winning out on the road at Illinois and Indiana
Big 10 Basketball Standings
The Big 10 Basketball standings table presents the probabilities of a team's regular season finish and post season conference tournament seeding.
www.playoffstatus.com
And if Michigan does beat both of them on the road, seems like a 2-seed well earned. Just gotta tip your cap.Good link: shows Iowa holds 2-team tiebreaker over everyone but NW.
50% odds on #2 seed (next highest probability is Mich at 20%, NW at 13%)
I see very little chance of Mich winning out on the road at Illinois and Indiana
Big 10 Basketball Standings
The Big 10 Basketball standings table presents the probabilities of a team's regular season finish and post season conference tournament seeding.
Agree - if they can beat both of those teams on the road, they would deserve it. Especially Indiana, which is going to have a tough week of practice IMO...
I guess I’d prefer a National Championship or a final four banner if we’re throwing out our preferences.
Just pointing out that the banner theory isn’t a standard of excellence.
You don't say????
and I was just pointing out that they do get something for a Sweet 16 appearance.
No, I got it. Completely understood the first time you posted it. I was just pointing out that they get the exact same thing for going to the NIT.
I could be wrong but thinking maybe because with BTN a lot of Big 10 Wrestling tourney action and 2 semi final games for the women's tourney on Saturday.
Nebby is anything but an easy game. They play hard and have beaten some quality teams. With that said Iowa is tough to beat at home.
