Cali recall election is already froth with fraud - No surprise here!
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Wunderbar. Provisional ballots are always a big hit when a black person shows up at the polls to find out they don't have proper ID or they were removed from the voter rolls.
I'm not saying this was deliberate fraud. But I'm telling you unequivocally that these people were incorrectly told they had already voted. And your arrogant dismissal of their claims based on the fact that votes hadn't been counted yet was abject stupidity on your part.
I don't have a problem with provisional ballots. I'm saying that Joes Place was absolutely wrong when he dismissed their factual claims based on the fact that votes hadn't been counted yet.
Russian? I agree with the rest, but are you still on Russia?
What you are upset by is "voter disenfranchisement", which certainly is an issue of concern.
But it is not "voter fraud".
Hopefully, you will maintain this concern regarding "voter disenfranchisement" when it comes to Republicans engaging in it.
I'm not saying it's fraud. Not one time have I called it fraud. Don't even try to start with that bullshit tactic. I have stated verified facts and I'm saying that what you wrote in posts 21, 31, and 36 was absolutely wrong.
That's not even open to debate. End of discussion.
So what happens now TJ? You and Joe have a duel?
Too bad shit happens but it seems that since "provisional ballots" were issued basically there is no harm and no foul.
What do you want done TJ? You wanna recount of the November election? Maybe Cali needs to fix its election laws to make it harder for Republicans to vote?
What do you want to happen? Redo the election in Cali....and run it until it is "perfect"?
This is just bullshit.......and when America cant have elections, America dies...and the Taliban takes over! And dammit, we have the Taliban ready to ride here in A,erica....they had a practiice run in DC back in January.
Life's to short ****tard. You need to find a new hobby.
I’m anti-recalls for the most part but it would have been so goddamned easy to beat Newsom. So simple. Just play the “out of touch/ hypocrisy/ do as I say not as I do/ let Hollywood elitists work during shut down/ open restaurants for special people” Card. Over and over and over again. Don’t do anything to let them see how crazy you are. And you win…by a lot.
But nope…you had to make Sue Ellen Mitchke try the bra on didn’t you?
But nope…you had to make Sue Ellen Mitchke try the bra on didn’t you?
The only reason this was possible was because of the pandemic, when they were granted another four months to gather signatures. Even at his lowest popularity, news never fell much below 50%.
what’s particularly dumb about the recall rules is that okay, so say Newsome didn’t hit 50% needed to stay in office. Why would that not have just triggered a special election? Why does it Also double as an election, where the person who got the next highest vote total became governor? Elder or someone else could have become governor with a distinct minority of the vote.
Ultimately it was a case of “no harm, no foul”. I never stated or suggested otherwise. The people were allowed to cast provisional ballots that won’t matter
anyway because Newsom easily defeated the recall effort.
My point was and is the fact that what these people said happened to them did actually happen. Some sort of computer glitch or something incorrectly flagged them as having already voted. The Associated Press reported it and Los Angeles County officials confirmed it. It is a certifiable fact.
And Joes Place was wrong when he laughed at their claims and implied they weren’t even possible because the election hadn’t even started yet.
When I pointed out that the election had in fact already begun, he tried to fall back to a new position and argue that no votes had been counted yet. But he got overrun at that position as well because whether or not counting had begun was completely irrelevant to what happened to these voters.
So now, having been soundly rebuked on both points, he’s trying to falsely attach statements and viewpoints to me that I did not express.
In other words, Joes Place doing Joes Place things.
When are we gonna have the next recall n Cali? I see there are still forest fires raging...and it isn’t raining there yet..and that has to be the Democrats fault, right?
Christ just stfu and take the L you dumbfuks
My guess is right after the next major earthquake. I’m pretty sure the governor is to blame for the inexorable shifting of tectonic plates.
The next question of course is how many others that didn't show up to vote and expose the issue had been counted as voting.....and how did they vote?
I will say harm has been done if this is true. A computer glitch? That seems interesting and should probably be explained a bit more
FUNFACT: Reducing turnout nearly ALWAYS favors GOP candidates. So, if "Dems" coordinated a snafu, it'd be an Epic Self PWN.
Lol. Here’s exactly what I wrote:
“The election started 10 days ago, Sport.”
If that constitutes “freaking out” then everything ever written by human beings is a freak-out.
I don’t even give a shit about the California recall because it never really had a chance of succeeding. I’ve never once posted about it until this thread and the only reason I opened this thread was to see if there was a debate over whether or not froth/fraught was a WOB.
And then I saw you make a demonstrably false statement, so I corrected you. And just as you always do when I kick your ass on certifiable facts, you’re now desperately lying about what I wrote because you can’t cope with being wrong.
You’re as predictable as a sunrise.
Your logic is off. If people don't show up to vote and yet a computer glitch has them down as having voted that is a problem by itself. The question though is did their recorded vote already count? And for who?
It doesn't matter who won if this is true. All that matters if this is true is that the voting system isn't secure.
Here's what ELSE you wrote:
And that's not "fraud".
And you were informed they were provided provisional ballots to cast. Per CA voting laws/procedures.
And that's not "fraud".
And you were informed they were provided provisional ballots to cast. Per CA voting laws/procedures.
You know what the potential fraud is torbee. It isn't difficult to understand the problem.
How did their un-cast vote "count"?
They didn't put a ballot in. See, now you're moving from a "computer glitch" to "election officials printing out and stuffing ballot boxes", which isn't what happened.
We didn't realize you were going to show up and we have you down as having already voting. Here is a provisional ballot so you can register your actual vote.
How many people that didn't show up and get a provisional ballot were marked as having voted and who did they vote for?
That you refuse to see the problem is either you being obtuse for political reasons or you are just dumb
It's NOT "fraud". It's (potential) voter suppression and voter disenfranchisement.
And when that happens in a systematic fashion to a bloc of voters, it's a big big problem. But that is NOT what happened here, and it was quickly corrected and folks were provided provisional ballots.
You're loopy.
If a "glitch" asserts someone voted and they didn't, there's NO BALLOT cast.
And they FIXED the problem. BEFORE the polls even closed.
Yeah I didn't claim that. Nice strawman.
A computer glitch marking people down as having voted is the problem Joe and no amount of your gaslighting is going to change that issue. This is a huge problem that is about the security of the election process not the outcome of that particular election
This can't simply be dismissed by someone claiming computer glitch
Yet, you came out guns a-blazing after me, when I laughed at the nonsensical claims of "voter fraud" here.
