California Caught Off Guard By Massive Fires After LA Fire Dept Spent Years Pushing ‘Racial Equity’
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The gods. The weather. High winds. The drought.
Get back when you start watching debates bro.
Wildfires in California are happening due to a combination of factors, including land management practices, climate change (why do you hate science?), and natural weather patterns.
Wow! You're right...
Are you suggesting they pump in water from the Pacific to fight the fires? That’s not practical because it would render most of the equipment unusable after the fire due to the salt content. You’re right about the wind forcing the grounding of air tankers and helicopters.
The fact is that they can only really minimize fire risk - and help with water supply challenges by building more reservoirs, which they have not done.
We lived in SoCal and experienced a Santa Ana wind, and it came out of nowhere. As Floridians we had no idea about these events and they’re scary.
I refuse to be critical of these people who are living a version of a hellscape. My sympathies to all of them and my gosh this is a catastrophe. 🤯
Get back when you start watching debates bro.
Shows "severe drought" in the areas currently impacted.
Combined w/ Santa Ana winds during the lowest-humidity time of year, when those seasonal winds usually occurred 2+ months ago (Sept/Oct).
You seem to be debunking your own points here.
We hit some SAs coming back from Vegas on a motorcycle trip one fall.
Ripped the windscreen off one guy's bike at the time. Had to pull off I-15 and find a shitty motel for the night, as it wasn't weather you could ride a bike in.
I wasn't suggesting pumping from the ocean. What I meant was dipping into the ocean with helicopter tanks to gather water and attack the fire from the sky. Though I didn't specifically say that in the post.
That’s better….and climate change and yearly droughts came all of a sudden?Wildfires in California are happening due to a combination of factors, including land management practices, climate change (why do you hate science?), and natural weather patterns.
Wow! You're right...
No, it shows it’s dry year after year, and not even the driest…You having lived there doesn’t mean shit. Fires year in year out and now destroying neighborhoods.
I've lived in California for 35 years, some of that time in various locations in Southern California. We use to have a fire season, typically mid August through the end of October.
Now it's year around.
To say climate change plays no role is ignorant, naive and irresponsible.
Not at all. Climate change and droughts haven't come 'all of a sudden,' and no one is suggesting they have. The reality is that these issues have been steadily worsening over decades due to a combination of natural cycles and human activities, like greenhouse gas emissions and overuse of water resources. California has been adapting to these challenges with significant investments in wildfire prevention and water management, but the scale of these problems (especially with a warming climate) makes them difficult to tackle overnight.
That said, I’m curious if you acknowledge that these conditions are recurring and worsening, what’s your solution? Blaming California policies without offering alternatives isn’t particularly productive.
During the main SA winds, nothing was able to fly, particularly helicopters.
No; climate change has become progressively worse over the past 100 years.
And the more CO2 we pump into the atmosphere, the worse it gets, increasing the risk probabilities for events like this.
It’s obvious Cali fire and droughts are reoccurring, but not all over the country. So it will be worse next season or….?
It means I understand that 20 yrs ago, Santa Ana winds typically occurred during the fall months.
Not in December or January.
Are you debunking your own beliefs? You know it’s going to be dry no matter what, so let’s not address it year in and year out.
LOLWUT?
For years, CA did not get SA winds during their dry winters.
What part of that are you incapable of understanding here?
And now they are worse because of increased climate change? And worse next year and after that? Climate change wasn’t that bad those years?
What part of "the risks increase" is too complicated for you?
When MLB players were "juicing", were new batting records broken every year?
Or did it just increase the likelihood each year that a record might be broken?
Did Barry Bonds hit baseballs further at every progressive at-bat?
Or, did he just, on average, start hitting baseballs a lot harder and further?
Not sure how to explain this concept to you any more simply. If you only have the intellect of a 3rd grader, you should probably sit this topic out.
Are you asking why there aren't wildfires in the Everglades? California’s fire seasons are part of a recurring pattern abd they’ve been getting worse over time due to prolonged drought, hotter temperatures, and increased fuel loads in forests (I'm starting to feel like I've heard this before). That’s why scientists and policymakers are concerned: these conditions are intensifying, not just staying the same.
As for whether it’ll be worse next season, it depends on multiple factors, like rainfall this winter, temperatures in the spring, and how much progress is made in reducing wildfire risks. California has been working on fire prevention—like controlled burns and forest thinning—but it takes time.
How about if there are "land management " and "water management " problems, get better management. That's something you can control.
Where do you get those climate change soundbites from??....just asking for a friend
I agree. Let's discuss that. Hell, at this point, I'll take anything other than the two most generic answers possible that continue to perpetuate this thread—California fires are because of a gay fire chief and [unspecified] leftist policies.
Are you thinking expanding controlled burns and addressing the buildup of dry vegetation that acts as fuel? As for watermanagement, mabe better storage systems to capture rainwater and strategic allocation for agriculture, urban use, and wildfire prevention? I was under the impression with 2billion spent California was already investing in these areas, but looks like they need to do more. What's your take>
Tell your friend I get them from peer-reviewed scientific studies, reports from organizations like NOAA and NASA as well as data from the IPCC.
It’s the leftist policies and spending money and time on DEI that doesn’t help with the solutions, you are starting to get it.
The silly screaming about a Fire Chief who happens to be gay is absolutely stupid.
I still remember when OP posted as @Arbitr8. he was a douche then too.
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You can lookup and be on the lookout for environmental and wildlife regulation policies. Along with firefighter budgeting/staffing and national guard management.
I haven't been on the ground, to my recollection, in the areas where the fires are active in many years now, so I am not visualizing exactly what is actually burning at the root. More specifically, what is "carrying" the fires? Super high winds will absolutely jump fires a long distance, yes, but is it brush or what that is actually at the root of the flames.
Even if enough structures have now been engulfed to accelerate things, something had to have started burning in the first place, correct? I guess what I am getting at is if brush, dead/dormant flora, etc, is the primary fuel that allows these types of fires to even be possible...should there be some changes to what is allowed to exist on the suburban landscape so as to remove the potential for a repeat of sorts.
What types of preventative measures can be employed as things are rebuilt?
Even if enough structures have now been engulfed to accelerate things, something had to have started burning in the first place, correct? I guess what I am getting at is if brush, dead/dormant flora, etc, is the primary fuel that allows these types of fires to even be possible...should there be some changes to what is allowed to exist on the suburban landscape so as to remove the potential for a repeat of sorts.
What types of preventative measures can be employed as things are rebuilt?
policies
I didn't make any generic, wide-sweeping claims so the onus is on you to provide the specific talking points (aka: policies) to discuss.
If your kid came home and said, "My teacher is being mean to me!", wouldn't you want specifics? For example, what happened, when/where did it occur, were their witnesses, context of what was said or done, etc.?
