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California Caught Off Guard By Massive Fires After LA Fire Dept Spent Years Pushing ‘Racial Equity’

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Nope, why don’t you look it up and tell us why they didn’t get more water available in the reservoirs and have more controlled fires?
A. I didn't make any unsubstantiated claims.
B. I'm not the one complaining and making accusations.
C. As soon as you provide the specifics to which you and your ilk are up in arms about, I'll be more than happy to discuss further.
 
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Did they?

They've voted to try to shift to renewables vs worsening the climate crisis.
I don't think the rest of the country (or world) has moved along with them on that...
Slow it down Joe, not everything in the world revolves around this fake climate crisis.

The New Green Deal is going to be dead in just a couple of weeks.
 
A. I didn't make any unsubstantiated claims.
B. I'm not the one complaining and making accusations.
C. As soon as you provide the specifics to which you and your ilk are up in arms about, I'll be more than happy to discuss further.
Start with the smelt dude and protected wildlife.

My complaint is on behalf of the people and families that have lost their homes, lives, and livelihoods. But I've never lived there nor provided you articles, laws and policy numbers.
 
Oh good grief. I'm not even a Hawkeye and was kicked off my own board, so I decided to troll here, ... i want everyone to know

i have brainfail like pedo-joe

and I recommend everyone read the article below
 
People like you are the lowest common denominator among us. Making political hay on a message board while people are dying, some being burnt beyond recognition, while others are losing their homes and everything they've worked for???

F U C K YOU!
The Los Angeles Fire Department (LAFD) committed significant resources to diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) initiatives before the outbreak of massive fires that devastated the Los Angeles area overnight.

The LAFD has implemented an internal “racial equity plan,” subjected employees to diversity training and is currently led by Chief Kristin Crowley, “the first female and LGBTQ Fire Chief in the LAFD” and a staunch supporter of the initiatives. As strong winds fed the wildfires on Tuesday evening, former Republican Los Angeles mayoral candidate Rick Caruso reported that some fire hydrants were running low on water as the department scrambled to mobilize firefighters.
 
Can't understand what?

Do you understand what a "drought" is?
Do you understand that, typically, Santa Ana winds occur in early/mid fall BEFORE everything is even more dried out over the winter in that area?

I lived in SoCal for ~10 years. When did you live out there to gather your "understanding" of the climate out there?
I lived in Caleftornia for much longer than you, and you don't know shit about the state, or reality in general. You are an expert in abusing children though.

Gay Choirs, Trans Cafes And Social Justice Art: What LA Spent Money On While Cutting Its Fire Budget​

 
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The Los Angeles Fire Department (LAFD) committed significant resources to diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) initiatives before the outbreak of massive fires that devastated the Los Angeles area overnight.

The LAFD has implemented an internal “racial equity plan,” subjected employees to diversity training and is currently led by Chief Kristin Crowley, “the first female and LGBTQ Fire Chief in the LAFD” and a staunch supporter of the initiatives. As strong winds fed the wildfires on Tuesday evening, former Republican Los Angeles mayoral candidate Rick Caruso reported that some fire hydrants were running low on water as the department scrambled to mobilize firefighters.
Can you define significant resources? Are you saying that instead of attending fire fighting training, firefighters attended DEI training instead. if so, to what extent, how many hours? As far as monies spent, can you post a dollar amount of the overall budget that went towards this that if not spent would be positively affecting what's happening with the LA fires currently?

I work for AT&T and required to take annual DEI training, and I'm pretty certain AT&T has spent some money to develop that training. However, despite the fact that I find it personally unnecessary, it has not impacted my work productivity or my company's bottom line one bit.
 
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Gay Choirs, Trans Cafes And Social Justice Art: What LA Spent Money On While Cutting Its Fire Budget​

THANK YOU! Finally some data points. That's all I was ever asking for. Who knows, I may agree with you.

Now, if you give me some time to read through it and make an attempt to verify the data, I would appreciate it. On a cursory glance, I would argue that it's not what they spent the money on, it's that the money was spent, regardless. If this money was spent on a play about John Wayne's life, and a Morgan Wallen concert, I would hope the argument would be the same. I live in texas, so those things could actually happen here. Lol
 

Gay Choirs, Trans Cafes And Social Justice Art: What LA Spent Money On While Cutting Its Fire Budget​

Thank you for allowing me some time to research.

My Sources (man, I wish y'all would get better at providing yours):
First off, the article’s framing is misleading in suggesting that cultural and DEI programs directly contribute to wildfire risk by diverting funds from LAFD. The fire budget cuts, while real, are relatively small and likely related to broader fiscal priorities rather than ideological motives.

Let's break this thing down, brother!

Claim 1: Los Angeles cut $17.6 million from the LAFD budget for fiscal year 2024-2025.

Okay, so according to Los Angeles FY 2024-2025 Budget (see link abovu), the LAFD budget was reduced by $17.6 million. However, it’s critical to note whether this reduction was from operational funds or other line items like capital expenditures. Mayor Bass claimed the reductions wouldn’t have affected wildfire response, suggesting the cuts were unrelated to staffing, equipment, or emergency services. Feel free to look at a complete breakdown of the LAFD budget to clarify the specifics.

Claim 2: The city allocated funds to programs like the Midnight Stroll Transgender Café and the Gay Men’s Chorus while cutting the fire budget.

Okay, I'll admit that I didn't know what this was, "$100,000 to the Midnight Stroll Transgender Café" It turns out this supports unsheltered transgender individuals.Let the record show they spend 5x that for the Kids First Program ($500K). I encourage you to look at all the other programs that exceeded this mere $100k...hint we're talking millions towards programs I'm certain you'd support.

Based on the full budget data provided, the Midnight Stroll Transgender Café is #123 out of the 189 line items in the list as far as cost (aka: near the bottom of cost).

Claim 3: The LAFD’s strategic priorities place DEI ahead of technological innovations and disaster recovery.

Sure, The LAFD's 2023-2026 Strategic Plan does emphasize diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). The plan highlights goals like recruitment from diverse communities and promoting an equitable work environment. However, this emphasis doesn’t mean operational readiness is deprioritized. Sections of the plan focus on enhancing response times, improving firefighter safety, and updating infrastructure, which are central to disaster recovery. Ranking "technological innovations" lower doesn’t mean they’re ignored; it reflects prioritization based on current needs and funding.

Claim 4: Social justice and cultural programs received funding while the fire department’s budget was cut.

Yup, cultural and social justice programs, including $170,000 for “Social Justice Art-Worker Investments”, were funded.
These allocations are standard in municipal budgets, which balance infrastructure, emergency services, and cultural investments.
The fire department’s budget cut isn’t directly related to these smaller allocations. Most likely, the reduction reflects broader fiscal constraints.
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What I found to be key context missing in your article is State vs. Local Responsibility. Wildfire prevention often involves state-level agencies (e.g., CAL FIRE) more than local fire departments. LAFD’s budget adjustments likely wouldn’t prevent or significantly mitigate wildfires driven by climate and geography. And comparative spending...see my comment about the Kids First Program. $17.6 million is a small fraction of LAFD’s total budget. For perspective, LAFD’s 2023 budget exceeded $1 billion, suggesting operational capacity isn’t significantly affected by the reduction.
 
THANK YOU! Finally some data points. That's all I was ever asking for. Who knows, I may agree with you.

Now, if you give me some time to read through it and make an attempt to verify the data, I would appreciate it. On a cursory glance, I would argue that it's not what they spent the money on, it's that the money was spent, regardless. If this money was spent on a play about John Wayne's life, and a Morgan Wallen concert, I would hope the argument would be the same. I live in texas, so those things could actually happen here. Lol
Plot it all out for us Professor. Some of us don't need all that nerd shit to know how we got here.
 
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Thank you for allowing me some time to research.

My Sources (man, I wish y'all would get better at providing yours):
First off, the article’s framing is misleading in suggesting that cultural and DEI programs directly contribute to wildfire risk by diverting funds from LAFD. The fire budget cuts, while real, are relatively small and likely related to broader fiscal priorities rather than ideological motives.

Let's break this thing down, brother!

Claim 1: Los Angeles cut $17.6 million from the LAFD budget for fiscal year 2024-2025.

Okay, so according to Los Angeles FY 2024-2025 Budget (see link abovu), the LAFD budget was reduced by $17.6 million. However, it’s critical to note whether this reduction was from operational funds or other line items like capital expenditures. Mayor Bass claimed the reductions wouldn’t have affected wildfire response, suggesting the cuts were unrelated to staffing, equipment, or emergency services. Feel free to look at a complete breakdown of the LAFD budget to clarify the specifics.

Claim 2: The city allocated funds to programs like the Midnight Stroll Transgender Café and the Gay Men’s Chorus while cutting the fire budget.

Okay, I'll admit that I didn't know what this was, "$100,000 to the Midnight Stroll Transgender Café" It turns out this supports unsheltered transgender individuals.Let the record show they spend 5x that for the Kids First Program ($500K). I encourage you to look at all the other programs that exceeded this mere $100k...hint we're talking millions towards programs I'm certain you'd support.

Based on the full budget data provided, the Midnight Stroll Transgender Café is #123 out of the 189 line items in the list as far as cost (aka: near the bottom of cost).

Claim 3: The LAFD’s strategic priorities place DEI ahead of technological innovations and disaster recovery.

Sure, The LAFD's 2023-2026 Strategic Plan does emphasize diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). The plan highlights goals like recruitment from diverse communities and promoting an equitable work environment. However, this emphasis doesn’t mean operational readiness is deprioritized. Sections of the plan focus on enhancing response times, improving firefighter safety, and updating infrastructure, which are central to disaster recovery. Ranking "technological innovations" lower doesn’t mean they’re ignored; it reflects prioritization based on current needs and funding.

Claim 4: Social justice and cultural programs received funding while the fire department’s budget was cut.

Yup, cultural and social justice programs, including $170,000 for “Social Justice Art-Worker Investments”, were funded.
These allocations are standard in municipal budgets, which balance infrastructure, emergency services, and cultural investments.
The fire department’s budget cut isn’t directly related to these smaller allocations. Most likely, the reduction reflects broader fiscal constraints.
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What I found to be key context missing in your article is State vs. Local Responsibility. Wildfire prevention often involves state-level agencies (e.g., CAL FIRE) more than local fire departments. LAFD’s budget adjustments likely wouldn’t prevent or significantly mitigate wildfires driven by climate and geography. And comparative spending...see my comment about the Kids First Program. $17.6 million is a small fraction of LAFD’s total budget. For perspective, LAFD’s 2023 budget exceeded $1 billion, suggesting operational capacity isn’t significantly affected by the reduction.
Could expand a little more on what specifically you mean when stating wildfires driven by climate and geography?
 
Plot it all out for us Professor. Some of us don't need all that nerd shit to know how we got here.
Post #95 does just that. (and I think you do, because you haven't actually read the budget, someone pulled out a few line items to paint a narrative and y'all bit right down on it)
 
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Thank you for allowing me some time to research.

My Sources (man, I wish y'all would get better at providing yours):
First off, the article’s framing is misleading in suggesting that cultural and DEI programs directly contribute to wildfire risk by diverting funds from LAFD. The fire budget cuts, while real, are relatively small and likely related to broader fiscal priorities rather than ideological motives.

Let's break this thing down, brother!

Claim 1: Los Angeles cut $17.6 million from the LAFD budget for fiscal year 2024-2025.

Okay, so according to Los Angeles FY 2024-2025 Budget (see link abovu), the LAFD budget was reduced by $17.6 million. However, it’s critical to note whether this reduction was from operational funds or other line items like capital expenditures. Mayor Bass claimed the reductions wouldn’t have affected wildfire response, suggesting the cuts were unrelated to staffing, equipment, or emergency services. Feel free to look at a complete breakdown of the LAFD budget to clarify the specifics.

Claim 2: The city allocated funds to programs like the Midnight Stroll Transgender Café and the Gay Men’s Chorus while cutting the fire budget.

Okay, I'll admit that I didn't know what this was, "$100,000 to the Midnight Stroll Transgender Café" It turns out this supports unsheltered transgender individuals.Let the record show they spend 5x that for the Kids First Program ($500K). I encourage you to look at all the other programs that exceeded this mere $100k...hint we're talking millions towards programs I'm certain you'd support.

Based on the full budget data provided, the Midnight Stroll Transgender Café is #123 out of the 189 line items in the list as far as cost (aka: near the bottom of cost).

Claim 3: The LAFD’s strategic priorities place DEI ahead of technological innovations and disaster recovery.

Sure, The LAFD's 2023-2026 Strategic Plan does emphasize diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). The plan highlights goals like recruitment from diverse communities and promoting an equitable work environment. However, this emphasis doesn’t mean operational readiness is deprioritized. Sections of the plan focus on enhancing response times, improving firefighter safety, and updating infrastructure, which are central to disaster recovery. Ranking "technological innovations" lower doesn’t mean they’re ignored; it reflects prioritization based on current needs and funding.

Claim 4: Social justice and cultural programs received funding while the fire department’s budget was cut.

Yup, cultural and social justice programs, including $170,000 for “Social Justice Art-Worker Investments”, were funded.
These allocations are standard in municipal budgets, which balance infrastructure, emergency services, and cultural investments.
The fire department’s budget cut isn’t directly related to these smaller allocations. Most likely, the reduction reflects broader fiscal constraints.
-------------------
What I found to be key context missing in your article is State vs. Local Responsibility. Wildfire prevention often involves state-level agencies (e.g., CAL FIRE) more than local fire departments. LAFD’s budget adjustments likely wouldn’t prevent or significantly mitigate wildfires driven by climate and geography. And comparative spending...see my comment about the Kids First Program. $17.6 million is a small fraction of LAFD’s total budget. For perspective, LAFD’s 2023 budget exceeded $1 billion, suggesting operational capacity isn’t significantly affected by the reduction.
Hard at it working in a hotel in another state again I see!! 🤡 🤡🤣🤣
 
Thank you for allowing me some time to research.

My Sources (man, I wish y'all would get better at providing yours):
First off, the article’s framing is misleading in suggesting that cultural and DEI programs directly contribute to wildfire risk by diverting funds from LAFD. The fire budget cuts, while real, are relatively small and likely related to broader fiscal priorities rather than ideological motives.

Let's break this thing down, brother!

Claim 1: Los Angeles cut $17.6 million from the LAFD budget for fiscal year 2024-2025.

Okay, so according to Los Angeles FY 2024-2025 Budget (see link abovu), the LAFD budget was reduced by $17.6 million. However, it’s critical to note whether this reduction was from operational funds or other line items like capital expenditures. Mayor Bass claimed the reductions wouldn’t have affected wildfire response, suggesting the cuts were unrelated to staffing, equipment, or emergency services. Feel free to look at a complete breakdown of the LAFD budget to clarify the specifics.

Claim 2: The city allocated funds to programs like the Midnight Stroll Transgender Café and the Gay Men’s Chorus while cutting the fire budget.

Okay, I'll admit that I didn't know what this was, "$100,000 to the Midnight Stroll Transgender Café" It turns out this supports unsheltered transgender individuals.Let the record show they spend 5x that for the Kids First Program ($500K). I encourage you to look at all the other programs that exceeded this mere $100k...hint we're talking millions towards programs I'm certain you'd support.

Based on the full budget data provided, the Midnight Stroll Transgender Café is #123 out of the 189 line items in the list as far as cost (aka: near the bottom of cost).

Claim 3: The LAFD’s strategic priorities place DEI ahead of technological innovations and disaster recovery.

Sure, The LAFD's 2023-2026 Strategic Plan does emphasize diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). The plan highlights goals like recruitment from diverse communities and promoting an equitable work environment. However, this emphasis doesn’t mean operational readiness is deprioritized. Sections of the plan focus on enhancing response times, improving firefighter safety, and updating infrastructure, which are central to disaster recovery. Ranking "technological innovations" lower doesn’t mean they’re ignored; it reflects prioritization based on current needs and funding.

Claim 4: Social justice and cultural programs received funding while the fire department’s budget was cut.

Yup, cultural and social justice programs, including $170,000 for “Social Justice Art-Worker Investments”, were funded.
These allocations are standard in municipal budgets, which balance infrastructure, emergency services, and cultural investments.
The fire department’s budget cut isn’t directly related to these smaller allocations. Most likely, the reduction reflects broader fiscal constraints.
-------------------
What I found to be key context missing in your article is State vs. Local Responsibility. Wildfire prevention often involves state-level agencies (e.g., CAL FIRE) more than local fire departments. LAFD’s budget adjustments likely wouldn’t prevent or significantly mitigate wildfires driven by climate and geography. And comparative spending...see my comment about the Kids First Program. $17.6 million is a small fraction of LAFD’s total budget. For perspective, LAFD’s 2023 budget exceeded $1 billion, suggesting operational capacity isn’t significantly affected by the reduction.
Who does this? ^ lol I mean who the **** who claims to have a job and family goes to all this trouble to carry water for such evil? This is absolutely nuts is what it is............
 
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I know they spent effort on DEI when they should've spent more on insuring safety.
I'm not saying you're wrong or I disagree. I'm just trying to figure out how much the complaint is about. $64.25 million was put towards safety and $100K was put towards a trans cafe' and all I've read is how that has hampered firefighting efforts.
 
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I lived in Caleftornia for much longer than you, and you don't know shit about the state, or reality in general. You are an expert in abusing children though.

Gay Choirs, Trans Cafes And Social Justice Art: What LA Spent Money On While Cutting Its Fire Budget​




Bass also took heat from far-left activists online, who accused the mayor of cutting the fire department’s budget in order to pay for a costly new contract with the city’s police. Also weighing in against her was Patrick Soon-Shiong, the politically idiosyncratic owner of the Los Angeles Times, who echoed the attack, posting on X that “the Mayor cut LA Fire Department’s budget by $23M.”

That assertion is wrong. The city was in the process of negotiating a new contract with the fire department at the time the budget was being crafted, so additional funding for the department was set aside in a separate fund until that deal was finalized in November. In fact, the city’s fire budget increased more than $50 million year-over-year compared to the last budget cycle, according to Blumenfield’s office, although overall concerns about the department’s staffing level have persisted for a number of years.


 
Who does this? ^ lol I mean who the **** who claims to have a job and family goes to all this trouble to carry water for such evil? This is absolutely nuts is what it is............
I thought we already had this conversation. I am not at home with my family. I'm in a hotel room bored...I visit the client site in the evenings because we can't have network interruptions. During the day I have a few teams calls to listen in on and that's pretty much it. I fly back tomorrow to San Antonio. If you'd like, I can give you my flight info so we can go grab a bite.
 
I'm a leftist ... which is just another word for propagandist.
Yeah, we know. I guess you somehow know more about the fires than the people who've actually been affected by them.
:rolleyes:

 
Yeah, we know. I guess you somehow know more about the fires than the people who've actually been affected by them.
:rolleyes:

Despite having never voted for a Democrat in the presidential election, I guess you're right, I'm a full blown leftist.

I live in Texas (a red state), so let me ask you this, during the 2022 Texas Snowpacalypse, we were all living under Right Policies, but yet the entire power infrastructure failed leaving 4.5 million people without power and 246 people died. Why didn't I see a bunch of you complaining about the Right Policies that failed? ERCOT didn't spend any money on DEI, so why didn't that save us?
 
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So, you don't understand what droughts are.
Or Santa Ana winds.
Or pulling 13 million from the fire departments budget and using much or what was left on DEI training, or not filling the reservoirs, or not allowing water to be moved from Northern California to the south. Just to name more liberal nonsense.
 
Oh, good grief. The idea that LAFD’s diversity and equity efforts caused issues with wildfire response is comical. Wildfires in California are driven by things like climate change, extended drought, and high winds, none of which have anything to do with DEI programs. Your claim about low water pressure is also BS—water management is handled by local infrastructure, not the fire department. Calls to off-duty firefighters during emergencies are standard practice for large-scale fires, not a lack of preparedness.

The focus on Chief Kristin Crowley’s gender and LGBTQ identity is irrelevant to her qualifications or the department’s ability to manage emergencies. California’s real wildfire challenges stem from resource limitations, outdated infrastructure, and the growing frequency of extreme weather events (but it's snowing in America, so this can't be true).
DEI manager for LAFD makes over $400k per year. How many real firefighters is that, or how much other equipment over the past couple of years. Of course it's got nothing to do with a fire today, but that decision certainly feeds into how ready they are to respond
 
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