A little boy throws rocks at a hornet's nest. When one finally connects, he is swarmed upon and stung repeatedly. He runs crying to Mommy, who soothes the bites and tells him, "It's not your fault. We just need to kill all the terrible hornets so they won't bother you ever again"
That, in a nutshell, is American foreign policy: sheer lunacy.
The war ended when the U.S. naval fleet under Commodore Stephen Decatur captured several Algerian ships and threatened to bombard Algiers Harbor. Decatur became a national hero, and he delivered a toast at a banquet in his honor: “Our country! In her intercourse with foreign nations may she always be right; but our country, right or wrong.”
We have been raining down death and destruction on the ME for a quarter century. Undeclared wars, one after another.
Let's just GTFO and stay out.
It's been said : war is the weapon of choice for the rich to terrorize the poor. And terror is the only weapon available when the poor are forced to wage war on the rich.
Muslims are no different than Vietnamese or Koreans, Germans or Japanese. But we must dehumanize them before we can destroy them. The collective conscience of the American sheeple demand this.
Are you referring to Thomas "all men are created equal, except for the black ones that all us rich white folk bought and paid for" Jefferson??
This country has a history that is based on war. There are banking/industrial interests that have drummed up one war after another, especially in the past 100 years.
This country has a history that is based on war. There are banking/industrial interests that have drummed up one war after another, especially in the past 100 years.
In that regard, yes - Muslims are no different than any other group. They are demonized by the government and media so that the people will go along with one military invasion after another.
War means big $$$ for big business and they laugh their collective asses off all the way to the bank at society's inability to discern between actual threats and pure propaganda. What did Barry, the guy who's been called a closet Muslim, do in the first few days of his presidency? He bombed the hell out of Pakistan: which is what we've come to expect out of a Nobel Peace winner in this country. It's how we roll.
Cuz we all know those Vietnamese rice farmers were going to dig up their AK 47's out of the mud, jump in a bunch of leaky little dinghys and sail across the ocean to take over this country.
Follow the money: this ain't rocket science.
This is ignorant. You can't apply morals of today to someone over 200 years ago.Are you referring to Thomas "all men are created equal, except for the black ones that all us rich white folk bought and paid for" Jefferson??
Islam spread in the 7-10 centuries for the sole purpose of conquering and converting people to their religion. You convert, or die, or you pay a tax to stay alive and not convert. While the crusades were most definitely about territory, they were in no way an attempt to convert or destroy.
You can't? Please tell me at what point slavery stopped being a 'grey' issue and became black and white. Was it when "Honest Abe" said so?
Yes, I believe it was the wrong thing to do.
Yes, I believe it was the wrong thing to do.
War leaves every country with three armies: an army of cripples, an army of mourners and an army of profiteers and thieves. (Taken from a German proverb).
War doesn't happen, war is chosen. It's been this way for thousands of years and unfortunately, looks to continue for thousands more.
I don't know. Do you think he would have had anything left after defeating the Red Army, if in fact he was capable of defeating them at all?
Some choice, huh?
Sounds like the beginning of our oligarchy. Some rich businesses demands our government help him make more money.
So much fail in this thread. And you dared to discuss morality in another post.Yes, I believe it was the wrong thing to do.
War leaves every country with three armies: an army of cripples, an army of mourners and an army of profiteers and thieves. (Taken from a German proverb).
War doesn't happen, war is chosen. It's been this way for thousands of years and unfortunately, looks to continue for thousands more.
A little boy throws rocks at a hornet's nest. When one finally connects, he is swarmed upon and stung repeatedly. He runs crying to Mommy, who soothes the bites and tells him, "It's not your fault. We just need to kill all the terrible hornets so they won't bother you ever again"
That, in a nutshell, is American foreign policy: sheer lunacy.
This country has a history that is based on war. There are banking/industrial interests that have drummed up one war after another, especially in the past 100 years.
In that regard, yes - Muslims are no different than any other group. They are demonized by the government and media so that the people will go along with one military invasion after another.
War means big $$$ for big business and they laugh their collective asses off all the way to the bank at society's inability to discern between actual threats and pure propaganda. What did Barry, the guy who's been called a closet Muslim, do in the first few days of his presidency? He bombed the hell out of Pakistan: which is what we've come to expect out of a Nobel Peace winner in this country. It's how we roll.
Cuz we all know those Vietnamese rice farmers were going to dig up their AK 47's out of the mud, jump in a bunch of leaky little dinghys and sail across the ocean to take over this country.
Follow the money: this ain't rocket science.
The article I linked was basically a response to an essay that claimed Russia would have taken care of the Nazis and did a pretty good job of examining both sides. You're right - a lot of questions that will probably never be answered.
I dared to bring up the morality of slavery and the hypocrisy of a slave-owner claiming "all men are created equal." Sue me.
What an articulate, well thought out response......................................to something that I didn't say. What I did say was that going to war against Germany was wrong for us. Europeans, especially Germans, were the ones that needed to stop him: it shouldn't be our fight from half a world away. But the Bush clan and their elitist billionaire buddies appreciated our support greatly I'm sure. I doubt that a single tear was shed by the war profiteers over the millions who paid dearly.
I agree: I don't know how it would have ended had the Nazis fought it out with the Reds and wasn't disagreeing with the author of that dissection. But to me it would have been preferable to the US becoming involved - and I don't think we would be learning German or Russian as a primary language had either of them won.
