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CDC Mask Mandate Study... Debunked

Oh so every patron in the store has COVID ? Huh. I had no idea.

Jeebus......the "binary thinking" here is clearly an indication of absence of any critical thinking skills.

You only need a small percentage of infected, unmasked, patrons to infect many others.

#WhiteHouseSuperSpreaderEvent
 
Did you read it?

What do you disagree with?

The entire article is an editorial. The problem with people saying masks don't work is because people's mask compliance in public is high but in private is terrible. They get together with friends and family during social gatherings. The CDC never stated masks would protect us all from getting the rona. It will help with reduced transmission rates.

RSV and flu are way down for kids. I can't name anyone from work (I'm at a hospital) who was out sick unless they tested positive for the Rona. I've haven't had so much as a snifle this winter. That's the first time in 22 years in the medical field that I can ever say that.

MASKS WORK
 
Jeebus......the "binary thinking" here is clearly an indication of absence of any critical thinking skills.

You only need a small percentage of infected, unmasked, patrons to infect many others.

#WhiteHouseSuperSpreaderEvent
Sure. In a prolonged close contact sort of a situation. I said that. Lowe’s is not the same thing.

Oh and by the way…..open restaurants in my area. People have been eating indoors at tables no masks for months. And full capacity for 1 month. Where is the spike?

Binary thinking? Ha! That is defined as thinking we still need to do what we did need to do. Dude you better bow out cuz you look bad here. Really bad. Your approach to this hasn’t changed one lick this whole pandemic despite conditions on the ground doing so. Just like your pimp Fauci.

#FireFauci. Speaking of useful idiot….
 
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Sure. In a prolonged close contact sort of a situation. I said that. Lowe’s is not the same thing.

Oh and by the way…..open restaurants in my area. People have been eating indoors at tables no masks for months. And full capacity for 1 month. Where is the spike?

Binary thinking? Ha! That is defined as thinking we still need to do what we did need to do. Dude you better bow out cuz you look bad here. Really bad. Your approach to this hasn’t changed one lick this whole pandemic despite conditions on the ground doing so. Just like your pimp Fauci.

#FireFauci. Speaking of useful idiot….

One of my working theories is that people who are eating at full restaurants now were some of the least compliant people to social distancing. They have a low fear level and as such were/are at high risk for exposure. It would be interesting to go into a restaurant and pay everyone 100 bucks to get blood for antibody testing. My suspicion is many would already test positive.
 
One of my working theories is that people who are eating at full restaurants now were some of the least compliant people to social distancing. They have a low fear level and as such were/are at high risk for exposure. It would be interesting to go into a restaurant and pay everyone 100 bucks to get blood for antibody testing. My suspicion is many would already test positive.
Yep. And an legit argument for getting back to normal.

Iowa: Cases down. Positivity down. Deaths down. ICU capacity down. Vaccinations up. Summer coming. Way too many on here want shut downs and masks in perpetuity.

I think you and I’d agree it’s time for a way more measured thoughtful approach.
 
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The author's reference to the Danish study as support of his hypothesis that outdoor mask wearing is ineffective fails to identify the following limitation on the Danish study

these findings do offer evidence about the degree of protection mask wearers can anticipate in a setting where others are not wearing masks and where other public health measures, including social distancing, are in effect. The findings, however, should not be used to conclude that a recommendation for everyone to wear masks in the community would not be effective in reducing SARS-CoV-2 infections, because the trial did not test the role of masks in source control of SARS-CoV-2 infection. During the study period, authorities did not recommend face mask use outside hospital settings and mask use was rare in community settings (22). This means that study participants' exposure was overwhelmingly to persons not wearing masks.

Also if it's the same one I'm remembering...they wanted a 50% reduction for statistical significance...which is ridiculous considering that's our bench mark for vaccines...I also think the Dutch study should 1 prevented infection per ~330 ppl who wore it...thats actually pretty close to what I'd expect it to be... all people had to do to prevent ~1mil infections in the US and prevent tens of thousands of deaths was to wear a mask...
 
Yep. And an legit argument for getting back to normal.

Iowa: Cases down. Positivity down. Deaths down. ICU capacity down. Vaccinations up. Summer coming. Way too many on here want shut downs and masks in perpetuity.

I think you and I’d agree it’s time for a way more measured thoughtful approach.

Yes, I would agree with that but we need a toggle switch. I would rather have fast opens and shutdowns especially since vaccine is coming out. If we hit another spike we have to shutdown hard. If there are no cases we have to open. This is going to be with us a while so best to be nimble. Not everything needs to be trying to turn an aircraft carrier around.

I will argue the mask thing though. Wearing of masks other than issues like your allergies doesn't pose a health threat or a major inconvenience. Nor is it cost prohibitive. Shutdowns have economic impacts.
 
Binary thinking? Ha! That is defined as thinking we still need to do what we did need to do.

No.

It's using black/white extremes, instead of actually engaging in any semblance of critical debate.

Unmasked infected people will infect others anywhere, including Lowes, when they are in proximity to them.
 
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The data is something like this: “I believe in mask, the father almighty, maker of hospital capacity and earth. I believe in double mask, his only son, our lord. He was conceived by the power of the N95 and born of the Amazon Prime Day. He was burned in Idaho, suffered, died...”

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Well to be clear, once again, I have a unique exposure that others do not. I am not yet clear that the routine use of masks, as an isolated risk mitigation, in public for casual exposure is warranted.
Who is advocating for the isolated use of masks? Why would that even be a question? As far as I know, wearing masks is always combined with other mitigation methods. Are you of the opinion that you can put people without masks in an enclosed space while socially distanced and there will be no more spread of a airborne respiratory virus than if they were masked?
 
Ah, yes......back when 99% of the country had ZERO cases.

Masks were needed ONLY in the areas where the virus was actively spreading. Nowhere else.

So by that logic, 99% of the lockdowns weren't necessary either, right?
 
I honestly don't get the continued resistance to mask up. I never was down with it, but I always just wore mine and found other things actually worth bitching about in my life.
 
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I honestly don't get the continued resistance to mask up. I never was down with the it, but I always just wore mine and found other things actually worth bitching about in my life.
I wear a mask everyday, all day. Where I live in Texas, I see damn near 100% compliance all the time. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw someone without one.

OSHA has decided that a COVID diagnosis is a recordable injury and those are deal killers in my industry. So even on the 10th when the mask mandate goes away, I will still have to wear one at work for the foreseeable future.

My compliance has zero to do with what I think and what others think... obviously it is not common thought right now, but the grumblings from the outer edges are getting louder and louder. And the anecdotal evidence (i.e. Florida) isn't matching the "experts".

It's like saying using an umbrella in a golf ball sized hail storm is going to help.
 
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