Just because you're good at your job doesn't excuse being, at minimum, an asshole and most likely a racist. If he wasn't so highly regarded as a strength coach, he would have been sent packing years prior and no one on here would be defending him.
Chris Doyle doing live interview w/ Keith Murphy at 12:00 CT Today
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There is zero evidence he is or was a racist.
wow just wow imagine the skeltons he could let out of the closet .... not a good look, this mess is worst than we all thoughtHere's the full interview.
Click on the PLAY button (or click on the the link in the tweet, which will take you there).
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It will also be available to watch via podcast.
besides the law suit and him getting canned ... but ya sure no evidence lol
Disagree but say that's true... He's a huge asshole that treated players like shit. Good riddance.
If he was truly such a great strength and conditioning coach, some rinky dink college or high school would have picked him up by now.
He was picked up by the Jags, and his baggage was far too much. I will stand by the drop off of the O-line was due to Reece Morgan's departure. Doyle was a good S/C coach, but he should have been canned after the rhabdo incident.
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Toxic to the touch to any institutions like that. And why would he go to a high school for what pay? Or a rinky dink college for that matter, how much pay a school like that gonna offer? Better off just opening his own sports performance business.
Just curious—do you ever think before you start typing?
You ever tire of making yourself look like an ass? We all know you're a pathetic Nebber with an Iowa handle. We all get it. Your program is still a dumpster fire, but it's looking up. Maybe someday you'll be a winning program again. Doubtful, but it could happen.
All the Doyle Defenders like, "Doyle can't be racist, he worked with someone named Urban!"
I think that you are on the right track. I really don't think it has anything to do with skin tone. Its kind of like the military. You conform or you will be forced to conform. From the people I know that were in the program, I think many people of varying backgrounds had trouble adjusting to this mentality. Some felt targeted by their race/culture. Some were a bit more vocal about all the "stuff" they had to endure than others.
You are confusing the BS lawsuit with Doyle's actions. Many folks that never were a part of the lawsuit also, voiced their issues with Doyle. The University's hired firm also, came to the conclusion of Doyle's actions. You may not like it, but it did happen.
Being disliked by a certain segment of people is a fireable offense?
and why do you think that is? Do you think that the players who protested at Jacksonville did so without reaching out to Iowa players they may know?
Doyle wasn’t let go from Jacksonville because of the players; he was let go because of the media and public backlash. He had already been working for them for over a month before it was made public. This was also around the same time when all the ESPN and Twitter folks were spreading the quotes with the most damaging stuff in them that anyone with a brain knew was lies. You know, all the stuff that was completely changed once they were under oath
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That's because it wasn't Brian, who also should have been dismissed, getting the boot.
21 years of employment evaluations leading to being the highest paid strength coach in college football... 24 hours done.
I have known Chris since his Boston College days. The interview is 100% who he is and genuine. He spoke for himself and that can stand alone as he needs no cheerleading.
Not just Brian, also Seth Wallace. Let's also not forget Kirk and the athletic department received a report in 2019 letting him know that there were problems in the Iowa football program, and I believe he either didn't do anything to fix them or whatever he tried didn't work, leading to the players going public in 2020.
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That's a new take on what happened. A dumb take but still a take.
That's not what I recall. He was let go because the players voiced their concerns with Doyle.
I also find it funny that one of the big knocks was the militaristic shirt tucked in, etc. type rules. And you’ve got ESPN airing on gameday stories about how great Saban was for running that same approach, and now you’ve got former Bama players, including plenty of Black players, shitting on Deboer on Twitter and podcasts about not being strict enough and not having his own shirt tucked In militaristic approach to workouts and practice etc.
The tolerant and inclusive media, run mainly by the left?
Did you go through the Hawkeye program and find this out first-hand? Genuinely curious there. There are not many people who post on this board that have any idea what actually goes on within that area.
Sure, Doyle must have been a hard ass, but there is doing things the Iowa way, or doing them your own way and Doyle did his best to make sure it was the Iowa way. I think Doyle is the type of coach/boss/person that you probably don't care for much at the beginning, but by the end, you realize you wouldn't be half the person you are without him.
The nfl immediately picked him up but the woke threw a fit and he was let go. Say whatever your little brain wants about him but to deny that he was legitimately one of the best strength coaches in the country makes you look dumb.
Yeah, he's such a great strength coach that he couldn't get another job at a rinky dink high school or college after Iowa paid him to go away and the Jags kicked him to the curb. Also, even though there are tons of Hawks in the NFL, none of them defended him.
Actually, plenty did. Including the current black strength and conditioning coach who worked with him 24/7 and defended him under oath. Look, he needed to make changes, as everyone isn’t designed to be coached like this is an 1980s scream in your face, but you look pretty stupid commenting on this. The guy also isn’t going to go knocking on doors trying to work at high schools for $5,000 per year, and if you've been to any coaching clinics over the years, the guy was always looked at as being one of the best, if not the best.
When you single out certain players and are over the top, yes. The days of berating the hell out of players and trying to embarrass them are over. It was stupid to begin with since it has been shown to hurt performance rather than increase it. With NIL, it simply isn't even an option these days. Kids will go elsewhere.
Keeping him around was a cancer to the program.
Schools that can afford a strength and conditioning coach pay them more than $5,000 a year. Also I said "Hawks in the NFL", not "Raymond Braithwaite". It's strength and conditioning, not splitting the atom. Braithwaite is probably just as good.
Because when some fans put you on a pedestal and you have the athletic director in your pocket, you think you don't have to change anything.
I don't think Jacksonville players reach out to any Iowa players. They knew why he got fired.
Stop with the narrative you are trying to push
Hawks in the NFL and out of the NFL still have talked to Chris about programming. Hard period.
Guys have come to Chris while getting ready for the NFL combine.
He has been offered at least two college jobs and went through the process as a hire. College presidents have the final say.
NFL teams have had a high level of interest. Personally feel he would like the collegiate level better. A question to ask him.
Takeaways from the interview that I have heard Chris tell players personally. Training is tough not personal. Dont open a window and point fingers, look in the mirror.
The leadership council of the Iowa football team was doing the end of school year team building retreat up in Cedar Rapids. We had organized one project at Bever Park in Cedar Rapids cleaning out the old bear cage/pit. As we were getting the dirt removed and down into the bottom of the old concrete pit, Mike Daniels came upon a very large boulder. Teammates were egging him on to lift this large stone out of the pit and Mike looked up at Chris for the okay to try. Not because Chris demanded this, but because Mike valued that nod of approval from Chris saying you got this. Chris was never demeaning nor only authoritarian, he cared and knew every players abilities. He pushed hard to develop those abilities.
Hawkfan2024 you are part of the reason one of the better strength coaches and human beings is not developing young mens minds and bodies at a major university. Pushing narratives you dont have firsthand knowledge of being reckless, for some odd reason empowers you. If you are ever in my neck of the woods, I would enjoy a chance to sit in a chair with you and do a workout designed by one of my early mentors who was wheelchair bound. I can guarantee your mind would be broadened beyond, "It's only strength and conditioning."
Did anyone actually listen to the interview then? I have enough of a podcast backlog so I'm not going to, but would be interested in the clif notes version. TIA
