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Clueless announcers

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I try to watch as much wrestling on tv I can. This morning watching navy vs Maryland. 1 announcer seems like a previous wrestler but the other guy has never watched a match. Amazing how schools can’t find 2 knowledgeable people. Doesn’t help to grow the sport when a guy continually has no idea what’s going on.
 
I try to watch as much wrestling on tv I can. This morning watching navy vs Maryland. 1 announcer seems like a previous wrestler but the other guy has never watched a match. Amazing how schools can’t find 2 knowledgeable people. Doesn’t help to grow the sport when a guy continually has no idea what’s going on.
Maybe you should donate 1 dollar per day...
 
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It’s infuriating because it is a blatant display of the low priority that some of these networks place on wrestling. There’s just no excuse for it at all.

I despise soccer more than I despise about anything else on the planet. But my God if I were in charge of a TV network that covered a soccer event, I would make damn sure that the people I had announcing the games were soccer people who knew and loved the game… just out of respect for their community, whether I can personally relate to their passion for the sport or not.

Plugging in some jackwagon to call a wrestling event despite not caring or knowing anything about it just seems to display a total lack of dignity and they are bad at their jobs, IMO.

I have noticed this too, obviously. Drives me nuts. Disrespectful to the sport.
 
It’s infuriating because it is a blatant display of the low priority that some of these networks place on wrestling. There’s just no excuse for it at all.

I despise soccer more than I despise about anything else on the planet. But my God if I were in charge of a TV network that covered a soccer event, I would make damn sure that the people I had announcing the games were soccer people who knew and loved the game… just out of respect for their community, whether I can personally relate to their passion for the sport or not.

Plugging in some jackwagon to call a wrestling event despite not caring or knowing anything about it just seems to display a total lack of dignity and they are bad at their jobs, IMO.

I have noticed this too, obviously. Drives me nuts. Disrespectful to the sport.
Exactly, find 2 wrestlers from the home team that are redshirting/hurt that can do it. Sure they’ll be biased but I’d rather listen to knowledgeable wrestlers who aren’t great on the mic than a guy who im convinced has no sports knowledge at all.
 
It might be deeper than that….

I read a news blog out of NoCal. They interviewed the new head coach of a local team. The coach was describing a match and explained that his kid pinned the opponent in the second round.

I called the guy out in the comments and he got pretty defensive. I’m pretty sure the guy is an MMA practitioner now coaching high school wrestling without ever being a wrestler.
 
Plugging in some jackwagon to call a wrestling event despite not caring or knowing anything about it just seems to display a total lack of dignity and they are bad at their jobs, IMO.
As a fan / viewer, I appreciate the desire for better broadcasters. However, I realize much of the time those on the mics are students in university communication colleges, who have aspirations to become broadcasters. So their announcing is serving a different purpose from ensuring maximum viewer enjoyment.
 
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I'll be honest, I was surprised during Iowa's BTN+ duals that Marinelli and Young didn't seem to know some pretty basic rules (to the point of asking coaches mid-broadcast) and seemed to have done little homework whatsoever on Iowa's opponents.

A couple of the on-air discussions actually raised some concerns to me beyond the professionalism of the broadcast. They were talking about rules and strategy that should be well known by any D1 wrestler.
 
As a fan / viewer, I appreciate thd desire for better broadcasters. However, I realize much of the time those on the mics are students in university communication colleges,who have aspirations to become broadcasters. So their announcing is serving a different purpose from ensuring maximum viewer enjoyment
Aspirations to get on the mic should have knowing the sport’s rudiments as a prerequisite. Especially if fans are paying for that service.
 
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Aspirations to get on the mic should have knowing the sport’s rudiments as a prerequisite. Especially if fans are paying for that service.
Or maybe university aspirations to monetize something at a maximum
profit margin with minimum effort is the driver. That approach seems to work for Flo.

No doubt more professional announcing services would mean increased fan subscription fees to services like B1G+. Like many things in life, it may be a trade-off between competing value priorities.
 
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Maybe I'm a bit weird, but I almost never listen to the announcers when watching online or tv broadcast. Only time I turn the sound on is during challenges.

Am I the only one that does this?
Depending on if I can get the delays to line up correctly, I typically play Ironside and Grace through my phone and then have the video streaming on television. I can't pause every video service and occasionally there are a few duals without radio, so it doesn't always work. I enjoy the chemistry between Ironside-Grace and also like the balance of pbp from Grace with commentary/analysis from Ironside.
 
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I try to watch as much wrestling on tv I can. This morning watching navy vs Maryland. 1 announcer seems like a previous wrestler but the other guy has never watched a match. Amazing how schools can’t find 2 knowledgeable people. Doesn’t help to grow the sport when a guy continually has no idea what’s going on.
I didn't watch that dual, but I was cracking up a bit watching the dual against Chattanooga, where the one announcer on ESPN+ was talking about Real Woods and the match between Real Woods and his Iowa State opponent and discussing how Woods started fast and was working on the MD before giving up points to his opponent late in the match. The whole time I was thinking, "WTH is this guy talking about?" It was scoreless in the first and the biggest lead Woods has was 2-0 from a second SW and an escape, Woods never had a TD and his biggest lead was 2-0, so how in the hell can he be working on the MD?
 
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I'll be honest, I was surprised during Iowa's BTN+ duals that Marinelli and Young didn't seem to know some pretty basic rules (to the point of asking coaches mid-broadcast) and seemed to have done little homework whatsoever on Iowa's opponents.

A couple of the on-air discussions actually raised some concerns to me beyond the professionalism of the broadcast. They were talking about rules and strategy that should be well known by any D1 wrestler.
And maybe speaks to why the 149 pounder didn't know that riding time wins in the tie-breakers? That isn't new and we all know it, D1 wrestlers probably should by now.
 
It’s infuriating because it is a blatant display of the low priority that some of these networks place on wrestling. There’s just no excuse for it at all.

I despise soccer more than I despise about anything else on the planet. But my God if I were in charge of a TV network that covered a soccer event, I would make damn sure that the people I had announcing the games were soccer people who knew and loved the game… just out of respect for their community, whether I can personally relate to their passion for the sport or not.

Plugging in some jackwagon to call a wrestling event despite not caring or knowing anything about it just seems to display a total lack of dignity and they are bad at their jobs, IMO.

I have noticed this too, obviously. Drives me nuts. Disrespectful to the sport.
They can't even get competant people to run the clock and keep score.
 
It’s infuriating because it is a blatant display of the low priority that some of these networks place on wrestling. There’s just no excuse for it at all.

I despise soccer more than I despise about anything else on the planet. But my God if I were in charge of a TV network that covered a soccer event, I would make damn sure that the people I had announcing the games were soccer people who knew and loved the game… just out of respect for their community, whether I can personally relate to their passion for the sport or not.

Plugging in some jackwagon to call a wrestling event despite not caring or knowing anything about it just seems to display a total lack of dignity and they are bad at their jobs, IMO.

I have noticed this too, obviously. Drives me nuts. Disrespectful to the sport.
I'm a PSU alum living in Pa. and it doesn't surprise me. I'm in the heart of wrestling country and the average sports fan has no clue and cares little about the sport. At least when I watch it on ESPN or the Big Ten network the announcers are decent.
 
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I'm a PSU alum living in Pa. and it doesn't surprise me. I'm in the heart of wrestling country and the average sports fan has no clue and cares little about the sport. At least when I watch it on ESPN or the Big Ten network the announcers are decent.
My wife's (no pics) little brother grew up wrestling and her dad was a wrestler, yet when we started dating in high-school, if we'd wrestle she'd count to 3 and slap the mat call it a pin! I was like "who failed you this badly..." 😅
 
My wife's (no pics) little brother grew up wrestling and her dad was a wrestler, yet when we started dating in high-school, if we'd wrestle she'd count to 3 and slap the mat call it a pin! I was like "who failed you this badly..." 😅
That's awesome! It's really bad here, PSU wins a big match or title and I'm yapping to a PSU fan or alum and I might get a " I heard they won, right?" I do have a few wrestling fans that root for PSU that I talk too, otherwise it's my wife and she just does not care lol.
A few years back when Nickal pinned Myles Martin in the finals to seal the team title and winning his individual I tried to explain how amazing this was to sports fans. they were like that dog looking at the phonograph.
" Don't you realize that he pulled off this great move to pin the guy and if he lost the other guy's team wins the title?"
I'd shake my head but that's the level of general sports fan interest.
 
And maybe speaks to why the 149 pounder didn't know that riding time wins in the tie-breakers? That isn't new and we all know it, D1 wrestlers probably should by now.
To be fair to Joel here he probably has wrestled with high school rules, college rules, freestyle rules, and possibly greco rules within the last year. It's his first time on the mat in a varsity dual and he's just wrestled his ass off for the last 9 minutes. His ability to think and reason might have been a little taxed. It's a bit of a coaching fail that it was not properly relayed to him in match but they might have been trying and it just did not work.
 
I'll be honest, I was surprised during Iowa's BTN+ duals that Marinelli and Young didn't seem to know some pretty basic rules (to the point of asking coaches mid-broadcast) and seemed to have done little homework whatsoever on Iowa's opponents.

A couple of the on-air discussions actually raised some concerns to me beyond the professionalism of the broadcast. They were talking about rules and strategy that should be well known by any D1 wrestler.
What. I remember Marinelli commenting on a Penn wrestler using a method that he called " Thats a blair thing right there". Meaning the Penn wrestler must have been a Blair Academy kid becuase of his method.
 
I thought they had to go through a second round of neutral and top/bottom before tallying riding time for the decision last year.
last year they changed the OT rules.
1 2 minute neutral period, first points wins
2 :30 second ride out periods
If score is still tied after the ride outs, then it's who has the most riding time.
 
last year they changed the OT rules.
1 2 minute neutral period, first points wins
2 :30 second ride out periods
If score is still tied after the ride outs, then it's who has the most riding time.
What happens if riding time is even?
 
I'll be honest, I was surprised during Iowa's BTN+ duals that Marinelli and Young didn't seem to know some pretty basic rules (to the point of asking coaches mid-broadcast) and seemed to have done little homework whatsoever on Iowa's opponents.

A couple of the on-air discussions actually raised some concerns to me beyond the professionalism of the broadcast. They were talking about rules and strategy that should be well known by any D1 wrestler.
huh ……. I loved their commentary …… thought it was great

I’ve bitched about Sparky and his mat return obsession in the past……have noticed he’s toned it down this year and isn’t as annoying….. course he was with Gibbons and Tim Johnson and that had to help
 
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huh ……. I loved their commentary …… thought it was great

I’ve bitched about Sparky and his mat return obsession in the past……have noticed he’s toned it down this year and isn’t as annoying….. course he was with Gibbons and Tim Johnson and that had to help
I actually really enjoyed their stories. They gave us a peak behind the curtain specifically into some of the Iowa wrestlers we didn't know much about. That said, it makes you appreciate that it is a real skill to have a pbp person that knows how to eliminate the awkward bits that comes with having an announcing team that are both probably suited more toward the color commentary side of the broadcast.
 
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