CMac bashing
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Okay I’’ll use a better example Tubby Smith’s son Saul played over 3000 min and Connor shoots approximately 10% better over his career. It’s probably more fair to judge Connor’s FT shooting by the nearly 200 he has shot over his career where he is approximately 75% than his 20 shot this year. There are some huge holes in Connor’s game but I think FT shooting is low on the list.
Haha, the old where do you coach line.....pathetic. if you coach I feel bad for your players if you play them according to how they did last year vs current season. Nobody is saying to yank the kids scholarship but you don't need to be john wooden to realize a guy averaging 3.7/3.3/4.2 doesn't need to be playing 30 mins a game or anything close. He averages the same amount of boards as jbo and he's a 4! (big reason why he doesn't turn it over). Being a hot head doesn't mean you're tough.....playing gritty D and coming up with rebounds and loose balls make you tough.
I could live with the no offense if he was doing the other things, 4.2 assists a game isn't great when that's your speciality and you're surrounded by LG/JB/JW/CJ. Should be a 15 min guy IMO with the talent behind him
It isn't anything personal with Connor. He just isn't good enough to be getting minutes on a top 10 team. That puts him in a category of about 99% of everyone else on the planet. We have way more talent this year which is why his minutes should be 0.
Yet some on here want him to at least be in at the end of games to close them out. An earlier poster said he would be 4th in for any other top 20 team. I disagree because I don't think he would get any minutes on any ranked team that didn't have several injuries.
Opposing coaches also praised Lickliter genius. Do you think Connor would start on any other big ten team?
Nice deflection, dick.
So it's clear that you haven't played or coached basketball at any respectable level, and it's obvious from your post that you just don't care for tge McCaffery family. I can accept that.
Praising an opposing coach with backhanded compliments is one thing. Giving props to a player is another.
And yes, I think CMac could start for many teams.
The knowledge?
The knowledge is what happens on the court for everyone to see.
Is there something else to be basing opinions on besides the obvious?
He doesn't rebound, score or defend well. Thats not up for debate, its just the reality.
So if you haven't coached college basketball you're not capable of looking at a player who's not very fast, not very athletic, doesn't play very good D, isn't a very good shooter, can't drive the lane, and makes <60% of his FTs and say he shouldn't be on the floor 75% of the game when there are guys on the bench who are faster, more athletic, play better D, can penetrate and dish, and are barely getting any minutes? Tell me what I've gotten wrong here, coach.
Clever stuff with the "dick" namecall, too. I like your fire.
You clearly know very, very, very little about basketball and know even less about what would be best for this team.
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I think it would be interesting to have a private conversation with top 20 coaches and ask
Does he start for you or play a role?
There are a bunch of teams he would start on. Teams in the top 25 or at the top of P5 conferences? Not sure there are many.
I sure hope Iowa wins tomorrow. All the Hawk bashing is exhausting.
Great kid, student, and citizen. And he does a lot of things well on the basketball court (crazy good passer) — unfortunately, shooting and guarding aren’t among them.
Still rooting like heck for him and his teammates.
Still rooting like heck for him and his teammates.
I think most would agree. I know I would. I just don't think he should start for us, and I don't think he should get nearly as many minutes as he does.
Unfortunately, some people on here like BBHawk believe that if you think that, you hate all things McCaffery and hope their family dog is killed in some freak accident. It's very weird.
Surprised so much Connor bashing. I also don’t understand how a coach’s son can have such a bad looking shot. I also think that Fran couldn’t/didn’t recruit point guards before or after Connor, his insistence that Connor was a point guard hurt Iowa. I think Connor played more than he should in past years. But, he is a pretty darn good player now, especially if he plays the 4, like last year He can defend the 3 or 4 well. He passes well. His not being a real scoring threat creates some lineup limitations for Iowa, but Connor deserves significant minutes. Maybe a little less than what he gets, but a real solid player IMO.
You are clueless if you think Connor plays good defense at any position. He is also a horrible rebounder and does not deserve significant minutes. Just look at our conference wins and losses compared to his minutes played since you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
Connor is a valuable piece to this team , he’s strong and can be a calm player on the court. Now that’s cleared up let’s move on. Joe T is a valuable piece to this team, A Ulis is a valuable piece to this team, T Perkins is a valuable piece to this team and those three are hungry and deserve their minutes on the court and someone needs to sit when they play Connor and J bo need to go 100% on defense all the time and then sit down til they’re ready again to go 100% on defense. 40 minutes is all the time allotted so divvy it up so everyone on the court is playing that way for 40 minutes. I could go on but really the rest is just more obvious , captain 👨✈️
This, and its been a huge part in ALL their losses. Luka should easily be averaging 30pts per game. if he settled back in at the line.
very true . i believe izzo during an interview said lick got a raw deal .
And Joe at 68% is a head scratcher. I thought Joe would almost turn into another Jordan Bohannon from the line and be a 85%+ FT shooter.
Sometimes it seems like it contagious when one guy starts missing from the line. Hopefully they start falling for both....
Or how a coache’s son has such an ugly looking jump shot? I witnessed my nephews perfecting their stroke at three years old, their dad is a basketball coach.
Wish Connor all the best and no one should feel sorry for him. Hope he can make a difference in many people’s lives with his professional life, he will have the skills and resources to do such.
I figured Weiskamp would still be mentally & physically weak, I didn’t foresee him becoming a bad ft shooter too. Especially if the ft’s mean anything at all.
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I feel like he has regressed on FT's, he used to be one of the few that wanted the ball late in games.
He is great to put in during critical in bounds plays as the passer. He just does not do enough things well relative to others (e.g. shooting, scoring, defense, etc.) to earn meaningful minutes. He sort of equates to an automatic Garza double team, given his inability to knock down jumpers.
If it's about basketball, I think it's fair game. It's when it gets personal that it's a problem, like when fans would throw JBo under the bus after a cold shooting night for doing podcasts during the week. That's just stupid.
Around the 10-minute mark of the Indiana game, CMac easily leads Iowa in +/- despite only having 3 pts, 2 rebounds, and 1 assist.
What none of the haters in this topic take into account is all the little things he does that don't show up anywhere in the stats.
What none of the haters in this topic take into account is all the little things he does that don't show up anywhere in the stats.
| # | Player | PTS | FG | 3FG | FT | OR | DR | REB | A | PF | TO | BL | ST | MIN | +/- |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3* | BOHANNON | 8 | 2-6 | 2-4 | 2-2 | 0 | 6 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 23 | 15 |
| 10* | WIESKAMP | 18 | 7-10 | 3-5 | 1-1 | 0 | 7 | 7 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 27 | 6 |
| 15* | MURRAY | 10 | 2-3 | 1-2 | 5-5 | 2 | 4 | 6 | 0 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 14 | 14 |
| 30* | MCCAFFERY | 3 | 1-1 | 1-1 | 0-0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 16 | 25 |
| 55* | GARZA | 6 | 3-7 | 0-0 | 0-1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 17 | 18 |
| 1 | TOUSSAINT | 0 | 0-1 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 4 | -10 |
| 2 | NUNGE | 2 | 0-4 | 0-1 | 2-2 | 3 | 2 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 15 | -8 |
| 4 | ULIS | 0 | 0-1 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 6 | -10 |
| 11 | PERKINS | 3 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 3-4 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 13 | -12 |
| 22 | MCCAFFERY | 0 | 0-5 | 0-2 | 0-0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 11 | -8 |
Connor would start on really bad P5 teams that need direction because they are athletic but lacking discipline. He wouldn't start on any Good P5 teams. This is not a bash on CMAC. He is a role player and has always been a role player, which means bench player..
CMAC is not the reason Iowa lost or has had its losing streak. It is not his fault his Father plays him starter minutes. Some of CMAC's minutes should go to bigger defender. Some of his minutes should go to quicker defender. We really need another 3pt shooter but no one on bench has shown any consistent ability and Fredrick is hurt.
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