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Coaching Carousal Closed For This Year

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With Florida announcing the return of Napier. Auburn doing the same with Freeze and South Carolina getting it together with Beamer. It looks like the once anticipated moves not looking to occur, or at least with top shelf programs like Florida, USC, and Notre Dame. We may be in a position where more guys like Cignetti aren't going to be moving up.

With NIL and the new expanded playoff, this might be the norm. If Cignetti can win at the Ferentz clip with the compensation, it may be more secure than a place like Ohio State. Ryan Day has never won less than ten games outside of 2020. He's on the hot seat. Sherron Moore is guiding a gutted Michigan team to at least a bowl appearance and he's getting roasted.

Dan Mullen got fired at Florida, he had a top 15 ranked squad and recruiting class. But he was deemed a failure. If Indiana can make the playoff, Cignetti is an all-time great at Indiana. In Ann Arbor or Columbus he's got to make it every year and he better win the whole thing by year three. If he's making the dough and doing what Campbell is doing at Iowa State, it's got to be a great lifestyle.

Then again, Florida, USC and Penn State may open up next year. They've got pressure, resources, history and are just better programs. Eventually they're gonna rebound and the man who does that is going to be heralded as superstars.
 
Will Colorado open up before the start of next season? Wouldn't surprise me
I think Deion is smart enough to know that trying to upset the apple cart in the NFL is infinitely harder than it is with CFB.

He can't hide behind coordinators and an attempt to build a stacked roster in the pros.

Of course at his age, he could be looking for the cheap couple year publicity stunt anyways. As long as Shedeur gets paid and he sees that through, that's really his only motivation at this point.
 
The other thing to add in to this convo is the amount of money that schools in the main two conferences have to throw at coaches. Indiana has money now to try and keep their HC, it will just depend on how invested they want to be in FB.
 
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With Florida announcing the return of Napier. Auburn doing the same with Freeze and South Carolina getting it together with Beamer. It looks like the once anticipated moves not looking to occur, or at least with top shelf programs like Florida, USC, and Notre Dame. We may be in a position where more guys like Cignetti aren't going to be moving up.

With NIL and the new expanded playoff, this might be the norm. If Cignetti can win at the Ferentz clip with the compensation, it may be more secure than a place like Ohio State. Ryan Day has never won less than ten games outside of 2020. He's on the hot seat. Sherron Moore is guiding a gutted Michigan team to at least a bowl appearance and he's getting roasted.

Dan Mullen got fired at Florida, he had a top 15 ranked squad and recruiting class. But he was deemed a failure. If Indiana can make the playoff, Cignetti is an all-time great at Indiana. In Ann Arbor or Columbus he's got to make it every year and he better win the whole thing by year three. If he's making the dough and doing what Campbell is doing at Iowa State, it's got to be a great lifestyle.

Then again, Florida, USC and Penn State may open up next year. They've got pressure, resources, history and are just better programs. Eventually they're gonna rebound and the man who does that is going to be heralded as superstars.
We'll see if Cigneti can keep it going. He had a favorable schedule and has taken advantage of it. The coach before him looked like a keeper then the wheels fell off. But if he can have KF type success,then he should have a statue at Indiana.
 
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We'll see if Cigneti can keep it going. He had a favorable schedule and has taken advantage of it. The coach before him looked like a keeper then the wheels fell off. But if he can have KF type success,then he should have a statue at Indiana.

True. Fleck has kind of settled in at around 7 to 8 wins. Wisconsin hasn't been the same since Bielema left, and Purdue has dropped back down after it looked like Brohm had them on the upswing.

Oregon has been the one new blood that seems to have stabilized as a perennial power.
 
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Lolol.. Funny isn't it how good someone looks when they have a big advantage in overall talent at their disposal. Looking at you Herman, Fickell, and hell Day for that matter......
Or with it. He did pretty well at Houston before failing at Texas. Seems like being the head coach instead of an assistant under a Hall of Famer doesn't always pan out.

Other than Kirby, it's the same with Saban guys or Belichick guys.
 
The other thing to add in to this convo is the amount of money that schools in the main two conferences have to throw at coaches. Indiana has money now to try and keep their HC, it will just depend on how invested they want to be in FB.
Seems they like this new feeling. Already a new contract.

 
Lolol.. Funny isn't it how good someone looks when they have a big advantage in overall talent at their disposal. Looking at you Herman, Fickell, and hell Day for that matter......
Herman won at Houston (22-4) before he got to Texas and Fickell went to the playoffs with Cincinnati (53-10 last 5 years). Not exactly two schools known for top recruiting classes. Herman took over a Houston team that was 7-5 the year before. This year he lost his two best players to Colorado. Fickell took over a team that was 4-8 the year before he was hired and went 4-8 his first year. I think trying to run the Air Raid at Wisconsin was a mistake in a state that produces lineman not WR. Sometimes it just doesn't work at a school.
Day is 65-9 in six years and is 44-4 in the conference. I think it's naive to say it's all because he's at Ohio St. If it were all due to the school he is at, why isn't Michigan who was in the National Championship game last year and a blue blood football school better this year?
 
True. Fleck has kind of settled in at around 7 to 8 wins. Wisconsin hasn't been the same since Bielema left, and Purdue has dropped back down after it looked like Brohm had them on the upswing.

Oregon has been the one new blood that seems to have stabilized as a perennial power.
Wouldnt be surprised to see Lanning jump to nfl.
 
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Herman won at Houston (22-4) before he got to Texas and Fickell went to the playoffs with Cincinnati (53-10 last 5 years). Not exactly two schools known for top recruiting classes. Herman took over a Houston team that was 7-5 the year before. This year he lost his two best players to Colorado. Fickell took over a team that was 4-8 the year before he was hired and went 4-8 his first year. I think trying to run the Air Raid at Wisconsin was a mistake in a state that produces lineman not WR. Sometimes it just doesn't work at a school.
Day is 65-9 in six years and is 44-4 in the conference. I think it's naive to say it's all because he's at Ohio St. If it were all due to the school he is at, why isn't Michigan who was in the National Championship game last year and a blue blood football school better this year?
And Day is 2-7 against other top 5 schools. Why is that? You don't think that he's almost unbeatable against non top 10 teams givin the ridiculous disparity of talent he gets to work with at OSU vs Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota etc..From a quality depth scenario there is no comparison. Of course he's 44-4 in the B1G. Who else but Michigan has the overall depth of talent to compete with him on a yearly basis? Do you think he'd be anything like 44-4 at Iowa, Illinois, Minn, Purdue or Wisc?

And before you go into the "he recruits that talent" do you really think thats a level playing field? Who do you think has to work twice as hard to land top players, Day, or Kirk, Bret and Fleck?
 
I'm pretty sure if Iowa had $1,000,000 to spend on each starter then we could RECRUIT four and 5 star recruits and make the new 12 team playoffs every year. But we would still have 20% of the posters on this site complaining if we didn't win the NC ever year. JMO
 
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