Colin Cowherd just ripping the Hawks wow
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Who cares what any pundit says! No need to be offended. Iowa's still got perception issues to overcome. So what? Let 'em talk. The Hawks might run the table, they might not. If they do, the doubters will all be proven wrong. And if they don't (run the table), so be it. This seasons's been very special anyway. Hawkeye Football is back!!!
I just skimmed, so I could be off by 1 or 2, but of the 14 members of the SEC, I counted a total of 12 games against teams from other power 5 conferences.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/conferences/schedule/_/id/8/sec-conference
CC called Iowa a poser. That's how people outside the B1G feel. And if Iowa loses a game, they'll all be there to tell us that they told us so. Unless Iowa beats an undefeated OSU team and plays for an NC, they will never get the props they deserve from the talking heads. Not this year anyhow. I say, who cares? No one will tell me it hasn't been a great season so far.
He isn't the only guy who's show KF will not talk to. Couple other a$$ pirates out there also.
super_tecmo_bowl, post: The Herd took offense to this quote from KF:
Q. If that person with the microphone who made that comment about your schedule called you and asked you if you would come on his program, would you take that call?
KIRK FERENTZ: That’s a good question. I don’t know. It’s kind of like that scene from Rocky, right, where — it’s Hulk Hogan, right? Is that the guy? Hulk Hogan beats the crap out of Rocky for a while, and Rocky is like, what the heck. It’s a game. I understand that. People that have a national mic have to make news.
But I also say this: I really respect people that do their research, do their homework before they throw things out there, and I probably should just be quiet right now, so I will.
Herd said he doesn't need to make news with the things he says on the show. (And he doesn't........but he does anyways. Though he'll never admit that on his show.) The Herd said that KF has scheduled weak non-conference in his tenure at Iowa. Which is hard to argue. (Not really. KF doesn't have ultimate control of who is scheduled. It's not like he's ever gone to Barta and turned down- that we know of- decent matchups against other teams from P5 schools, other than his comment about not being a fan of playing late night games out west.)
Iowa non-conference 2001-2017 (left out Iowa State each year)
0 games vs. the SEC................(And? How many SEC schools have played Iowa? Zero. How many SEC ADs have expressed interest in playing Iowa?....Exact same number. Thanks for playing.)
4 games vs. the Pac 12.............(Which is fine although you have to understand that only once has Iowa played more than 2 P5 schools, non-conference, in a season. So technically, in 12 of Ferentz's 17 seasons, Iowa has played another P5 team besides Iowa State. The exceptions are 2001, 2002, 2005, 2012, 2013. There's three 7-8 win seasons in there along with outliers of 11-2 and 4-8. Iowa also got good games out of MAC teams in 2002, 2003, and 2013 and of course lost to a bad MAC team in 2012.)
3 games vs. the Big 12
6 games vs. ACC............(or 4 against the Big East and 2 against the ACC. Sheesh, it took Pitt moving to the ACC for Iowa to finally play a current ACC school in a non-conference game, since 1992. Iowa was 0-2 prior to that against North Carolina State in non-conference games.
Only 13 of 47 of the non-conference were against a Power 5 league.............(or 30 of 47 if you include Iowa State. Just sayin, super. Just sayin.)
1999 - #5 Nebraska, Northern Illinois
2000 - #9 KState, Western Michigan, #1 Nebraska
2001 - Kent State, Miami (OH)
2002 - Akron, Miami (OH), Utah State
2003 - Miami (OH), Buffalo, #16 Arizona State
2004 - Kent St, Arizona State
2005 - Ball State, UNI
2006 - Montana, Syracuse, NIU
2007 - NIU, Syracuse, Western Michigan
2008 - Maine, FIU, Pitt
2009 - UNI, Arizona, Arkansas State
2010 - Eastern IL, Arizona, Ball State
2011 - TN Tech, Ptt, LA-Monroe
2012 - NIU, UNI, Central Michigan
2013 - NIU, MO St, Western Michigan
2014 - UNI, Ball State, Pitt
2015 - Illinois State, Pitt, North Texas
2016 - Miami OH, NDSU
2017 - Wyoming, North Texas
However, the Herd foolishy said that if Iowa wins out and beats Ohio State or Mich St in the B1G title game, Iowa STILL shouldn't be in the playoff. That is a joke."
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I took the liberty of correcting a few things and adding 1999 on there for ya too.
Also, you've helped me to ponder an interesting trivia question. In 2000, Iowa played THREE schools from a major conference (the same conference, no less) in the non-conference portion of the schedule. My questions are, when was the last time a P5 school (not Notre Dame or another Independent) played at least 3 other P5 teams out-of-conference......and just how many have there been since 2000.
Let's see just how rare a feat that was for Iowa. I think Florida State in 2002 may have. Teams that played in those Kickoff Classic basically got an extra game, which was the case for Iowa in 2000 and Iowa State/FSU in 2002.
As for the OOC scheduling starting next year, as long as Iowa State is on the schedule annually, there's really nothing Iowa can do without sacrificing a 7th home game. Facts are fun.
Q. If that person with the microphone who made that comment about your schedule called you and asked you if you would come on his program, would you take that call?
KIRK FERENTZ: That’s a good question. I don’t know. It’s kind of like that scene from Rocky, right, where — it’s Hulk Hogan, right? Is that the guy? Hulk Hogan beats the crap out of Rocky for a while, and Rocky is like, what the heck. It’s a game. I understand that. People that have a national mic have to make news.
But I also say this: I really respect people that do their research, do their homework before they throw things out there, and I probably should just be quiet right now, so I will.
Herd said he doesn't need to make news with the things he says on the show. (And he doesn't........but he does anyways. Though he'll never admit that on his show.) The Herd said that KF has scheduled weak non-conference in his tenure at Iowa. Which is hard to argue. (Not really. KF doesn't have ultimate control of who is scheduled. It's not like he's ever gone to Barta and turned down- that we know of- decent matchups against other teams from P5 schools, other than his comment about not being a fan of playing late night games out west.)
Iowa non-conference 2001-2017 (left out Iowa State each year)
0 games vs. the SEC................(And? How many SEC schools have played Iowa? Zero. How many SEC ADs have expressed interest in playing Iowa?....Exact same number. Thanks for playing.)
4 games vs. the Pac 12.............(Which is fine although you have to understand that only once has Iowa played more than 2 P5 schools, non-conference, in a season. So technically, in 12 of Ferentz's 17 seasons, Iowa has played another P5 team besides Iowa State. The exceptions are 2001, 2002, 2005, 2012, 2013. There's three 7-8 win seasons in there along with outliers of 11-2 and 4-8. Iowa also got good games out of MAC teams in 2002, 2003, and 2013 and of course lost to a bad MAC team in 2012.)
3 games vs. the Big 12
6 games vs. ACC............(or 4 against the Big East and 2 against the ACC. Sheesh, it took Pitt moving to the ACC for Iowa to finally play a current ACC school in a non-conference game, since 1992. Iowa was 0-2 prior to that against North Carolina State in non-conference games.
Only 13 of 47 of the non-conference were against a Power 5 league.............(or 30 of 47 if you include Iowa State. Just sayin, super. Just sayin.)
1999 - #5 Nebraska, Northern Illinois
2000 - #9 KState, Western Michigan, #1 Nebraska
2001 - Kent State, Miami (OH)
2002 - Akron, Miami (OH), Utah State
2003 - Miami (OH), Buffalo, #16 Arizona State
2004 - Kent St, Arizona State
2005 - Ball State, UNI
2006 - Montana, Syracuse, NIU
2007 - NIU, Syracuse, Western Michigan
2008 - Maine, FIU, Pitt
2009 - UNI, Arizona, Arkansas State
2010 - Eastern IL, Arizona, Ball State
2011 - TN Tech, Ptt, LA-Monroe
2012 - NIU, UNI, Central Michigan
2013 - NIU, MO St, Western Michigan
2014 - UNI, Ball State, Pitt
2015 - Illinois State, Pitt, North Texas
2016 - Miami OH, NDSU
2017 - Wyoming, North Texas
However, the Herd foolishy said that if Iowa wins out and beats Ohio State or Mich St in the B1G title game, Iowa STILL shouldn't be in the playoff. That is a joke."
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I took the liberty of correcting a few things and adding 1999 on there for ya too.
Also, you've helped me to ponder an interesting trivia question. In 2000, Iowa played THREE schools from a major conference (the same conference, no less) in the non-conference portion of the schedule. My questions are, when was the last time a P5 school (not Notre Dame or another Independent) played at least 3 other P5 teams out-of-conference......and just how many have there been since 2000.
Let's see just how rare a feat that was for Iowa. I think Florida State in 2002 may have. Teams that played in those Kickoff Classic basically got an extra game, which was the case for Iowa in 2000 and Iowa State/FSU in 2002.
As for the OOC scheduling starting next year, as long as Iowa State is on the schedule annually, there's really nothing Iowa can do without sacrificing a 7th home game. Facts are fun.
I did the full spread for you so there was a more accurate portrayal of facts..........you're welcome.
Has he said that though. I know that was the case with Jim Rome. Has Cowherd actually said that KF won't let him interview him?
Finally decided to listen to it, and all I can say is "Wow!" There were so many things wrong with what he said I don't know where to begin. "Never once has KF gotten on a phone and asked to schedule a top 10 team." - What a bold, baseless statement. "I don't make things up..." B.S. - that's pretty much all you do. I think C.J. ought to go to his studio and do a little Jim Everett on Jim Rome action. What a hateful person; I feel sorry for him.
He never addressed what Ferentz said in response to knowing the conference schedule 5 years in advance. I love how he goes through Notre Dame scheduling all those powerhouses. Playing 6-3 USC at home when they were in total coaching disarray, 3-7 Georgia Tech, and 4-5 Texas. Who...oh by the way, just got blown out and goose egged by one of those awful non conference teams that we played. Now after he says that, it should be clearly obvious that he spends very little time following college football. He might have watched Alabama play last week and I'll bet that's it, other than looking at the rankings on Wednesday morning. Anyone that actually follows the sport on a weekly basis will know that rant was so factually incorrect on almost everything. And oh yea, tell me about Baylor and Oklahoma States non conference.
He keeps saying Iowa plays the Lamars of the world.
No, Baylor does. If you're gonna talk about the Lamars of the world, talk about Baylor's schedule. If you're gonna talk about Iowa's schedule and why you think it is weak, then use an actual weak team we've played as a reference.
And I care what colon cowpie has to say because....?
Unless he's on the cfp committee or has a vote in something that affects the Hawks, he can yammer on the radio all he wants. I value his opinion about as much as I do jim rome's. Which is to say not at all.
Unless he's on the cfp committee or has a vote in something that affects the Hawks, he can yammer on the radio all he wants. I value his opinion about as much as I do jim rome's. Which is to say not at all.
There is one way to shut up the haters- WIN. Win the next three, win the game in Indy and go prove to the country we belong.
If we keep winning, we will have a chance to show the country and the pundits if we are a legit team. Bring on Clemson/ND/Bama/Stanford/Baylor
If we keep winning, we will have a chance to show the country and the pundits if we are a legit team. Bring on Clemson/ND/Bama/Stanford/Baylor
Yep, that's about 1 power 5 OOC team played per team in the SEC. Iowa played two power 5 teams and won both. You'd be hard pressed to find a better OOC win than Pitt in the entire SEC or even a tougher OOC opponent. I think Wiscy/Alabama is the only one.
What about Baylor, TCU, and Okie State's OOC schedules? Okie State played Central Michigan, Central Ark. and UTSA. Baylor played SMU, Lamar and Rice. TCU played Minny, SMU and Stephen Austin (and barely beat Minny).
It's ridiculous to mention ND in any OOC conversation because every game is OOC for them. Plus NBC owns them and probably influences their schedule.
The Big Ten has almost twice as many OOC power 5 wins as any other conference with 9. The next most is 5.
Said Iowa has never played anyone good last 25-30 years. Didn't Iowa play miami early 90s in their glory years. Nebraska when they were top 10. KState top 25. ASU was ranked. I love how he compares Iowa to Michigan, Ohio st, Alabama and USC the tradition rich teams. But who has ole miss, miss st, TCU, Baylor even Clemson (who like Iowa has a in state rival every in s Carolina who was awful pre spurrier) scheduled last 25 yrs. then he throws out how independent ND schedules. Guy is a joke. If you want to rip on iowas schedule blame Delaney for bringing in 2 awful teams to conference and watering it down. Least big 10 unlike sec has the balls to go to 9 conf games next yr.
All you need to know about cowherds college football knowledge he was biggest lane kiffin fan and supporter till he got fired even during that season. Reason ESPN got rid of him.
All you need to know about cowherds college football knowledge he was biggest lane kiffin fan and supporter till he got fired even during that season. Reason ESPN got rid of him.
You are right, I took the liberty of creating a new thread with the comparison of big 10 vs big 12 and SEC. They simply are not scheduling teams from power 5 confs. while the big 10 is.
Also scheduling ranked schools is a 2 way street. They also have to want to play you. I know Missouri backed out and Iowa had to reschedule lesser opponents. Maybe a better question would be to ask Barta what's the process of scheduling non- conference opponents.
Plus big 10 like PAC 12 and big 12 going to 9 conf games next year. So those 3 conferences will play 9 league plus PAC 12 and big 10 have a title game. Mean while last year SEC voted down the idea of 9 conf games (nick Saban being one of few wanting 9 games). Plus ACC sticking with 8. Yet ACC and SEC will continue to schedule poorly and ride the coat tails of the top team or 2 having a marque non conference game which is usually neutral field closer to them in the south.
The whole way college football is setup is a mess. It needs a serious re-org. What would be cool, if each conf. had the same number of teams and everyone had a championship, start your year playing 2 powder puffs, go to 9 conf games. At the end of the year, if you are not playing in the conf championship, you get matched with a comparable opponent from another conf. It'll never happen but it'd be cool I think.
Evil Monkey
1999 - 2/3 #5 Nebraska, Northern Illinois, Iowa State
2000 - 3/4 #9 KState, Western Michigan, #1 Nebraska, Iowa State
2001 -1/3 Kent State, Miami (OH), Iowa State
2002 - 1/3 Akron, Miami (OH), Utah State, Iowa State
2003 - 2/4 Miami (OH), Buffalo, #16 Arizona State, Iowa State
2004 - 2/3 Kent St, Arizona State, Iowa State
2005 - 1/3 Ball State, UNI, Iowa State
2006 - 2/4 Montana, Syracuse, NIU, Iowa State
2007 - 2/4 NIU, Syracuse, Western Michigan, Iowa State
2008 -2/4 Maine, FIU, Pitt, Iowa State
2009 -2/4 UNI, Arizona, Arkansas State, Iowa State
2010 -2/4 Eastern IL, Arizona, Ball State, Iowa State
2011 - 2/4 TN Tech, Ptt, LA-Monroe, Iowa State
2012 - 1/4 NIU, UNI, Central Michigan, Iowa State
2013 - 1/4 NIU, MO St, Western Michigan, Iowa State
2014 -2/4 UNI, Ball State, Pitt, Iowa State
2015 - 2/4 Illinois State, Pitt, North Texas, Iowa State
2016 - 1/3 Miami OH, NDSU, Iowa State
2017 - 1/3 Wyoming, North Texas, Iowa State
32/69 is the correct count on P5/Total Non-Con. You just can't add the ISU games on and not add them to the total LOL. just sayin.
1999 - 2/3 #5 Nebraska, Northern Illinois, Iowa State
2000 - 3/4 #9 KState, Western Michigan, #1 Nebraska, Iowa State
2001 -1/3 Kent State, Miami (OH), Iowa State
2002 - 1/3 Akron, Miami (OH), Utah State, Iowa State
2003 - 2/4 Miami (OH), Buffalo, #16 Arizona State, Iowa State
2004 - 2/3 Kent St, Arizona State, Iowa State
2005 - 1/3 Ball State, UNI, Iowa State
2006 - 2/4 Montana, Syracuse, NIU, Iowa State
2007 - 2/4 NIU, Syracuse, Western Michigan, Iowa State
2008 -2/4 Maine, FIU, Pitt, Iowa State
2009 -2/4 UNI, Arizona, Arkansas State, Iowa State
2010 -2/4 Eastern IL, Arizona, Ball State, Iowa State
2011 - 2/4 TN Tech, Ptt, LA-Monroe, Iowa State
2012 - 1/4 NIU, UNI, Central Michigan, Iowa State
2013 - 1/4 NIU, MO St, Western Michigan, Iowa State
2014 -2/4 UNI, Ball State, Pitt, Iowa State
2015 - 2/4 Illinois State, Pitt, North Texas, Iowa State
2016 - 1/3 Miami OH, NDSU, Iowa State
2017 - 1/3 Wyoming, North Texas, Iowa State
32/69 is the correct count on P5/Total Non-Con. You just can't add the ISU games on and not add them to the total LOL. just sayin.
Umm, how is any of this relevant to 2015? The entire SEC averages less than 1 power 5 team scheduled per team in 2015.
Iowa has a bigger fan base than that though. A lot of Iowa fans don't live in Iowa. There's a reason Iowa travels well.
I wonder how some SEC teams would stack up over that same amount of time?
Personally, I hate how non conference schedules get stacked with cupcakes..I can see scheduling the opener as one to get the season going though.
I don't know why the talking heads think this is just an Iowa problem
Cowherd is a Rome clone. Just rant on the same topic for a long time until someone listens. Rack em.
He is the idiot that does not know that the B1G realigned when Maryland and Rutgers joined. Otherwise Iowa's B1G schedule would look a lot different than it does. It also hasn't helped that a team like Minnesota that was expected to be pretty good isn't and a team that usually pushes 10 wins in Nebraska has been bad/ could easily have 3-4 more wins if things go differently. The schedule was a favorable one, I know that but to say that Iowa knew what their schedule would look like 5 years ago is ridiculous.
He is the idiot that does not know that the B1G realigned when Maryland and Rutgers joined. Otherwise Iowa's B1G schedule would look a lot different than it does. It also hasn't helped that a team like Minnesota that was expected to be pretty good isn't and a team that usually pushes 10 wins in Nebraska has been bad/ could easily have 3-4 more wins if things go differently. The schedule was a favorable one, I know that but to say that Iowa knew what their schedule would look like 5 years ago is ridiculous.
I agree, but you have to understand that winning is what is bringing on the haters....people do not like to see others succeed....successful programs and organizations will embrace the hate....there are a ton of Yankee haters out there, not to many Padre haters
Most of you don't look at things logically. You are hanging your hats on playing ISU and Pitt. If you look at Iowas schedule, the best team is NW. N friggin W. None of those teams mean anything to most fans. I totally get why they feel like they do. Especially seeing as how Iowa doesn't play any of the top schools in conference. If you don't see that, IDK what to tell ya.
I don't think he's a troll, I think he believes that crap he is saying which makes him a moron.
And in 2009 there was all this rant by such as
And in 2009 there was all this talk about Iowa winning close games, like against UNI, so that made them "unworthy"
Back when Boise State was the media darlings with their "play anyone, anywhere" attitude, didn't they want to be treated like one of the big boys in terms of getting home and home dates, but wanted compensation like they were a directional school when they travelled to those away dates?
Iowa is rank high because of x's and o's they look like a smooth running machine.
No way does Cowherd,Russillo and Finebaum no anything about that.
The people that do know like Iowa.
Them 3 are fans just like people on this board.
No way does Cowherd,Russillo and Finebaum no anything about that.
The people that do know like Iowa.
Them 3 are fans just like people on this board.
Of course they know. But they're only going to use that information when it is convenient to them and supports the point they want to make. Case in point - All these know-it-alls picked Baylor to be really good and Iowa to be really bad. So, Iowa competing for a high spot in the CFP rankings with Baylor doesn't meet their agenda. The solution is to try to bring Iowa down. Therefore, for every one comment made about Baylor's weak schedule (which, in reality, is one of the weakest in the country), there are 10 comments made about Iowa's weak schedule (which, in reality, is actually one of the toughest among the top 15 and second only to Clemson among the undefeateds).
The bottom line is that if you're looking for the talking heads to stroke your ego as a Hawkeye fan, don't tune in to ESPN, FS1 or any other national network. Watch BTN. But, nothing would be sweeter than to watch all these clowns after Iowa makes the CFP - they would all try to spin it to make it look like they were supportive and confident in Iowa all along, all back-tracking and double-talking and digging themselves deeper. I would watch ESPNU non-stop for about 2 days straight, only taking a break to change to FS1 to listen to Coward's take on it.
So you dismiss 2 top 25 road wins, an OOC that featured 2 P5 teams, and being undefeated... Come up with some better ones. Ohio State 0 wins vs top 25, Baylor 0, TCU 0, OkSt 1, Stanford 1, Oklahoma 0, Michigan St 1, Michigan 1, Utah 1. You can't rate teams because they could potentially have 2 or 3 top 25 wins so go by the facts and the facts alone.
