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Complete look at all 16 scenarios should we lose

El Simbolo

HB Heisman
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Besides ours there are really only 3 games and 8 possible combined outcomes that affect our bowl destination should we not win the B1G championship (4 games and 16 outcomes if you count Houston-Temple). Since if we win, we're in playoff, I didn't bother with those 8 possibilities.

In the attached charts, the left side shows the possible outcomes and the right side shows a prediction of the likely Top 4 and NY6 bowl pairings for each outcome. They're numbered to correspond. The rankings of 5-11 aren't necessarily accurate, just trying to indicate which teams would be in that range. Teams colored red are Conf champs with automatic entry to the NY6, green are replacement teams for conferences with bowl contacts, and black is at-large. Teams whose box is highlighted red are the ones left out in that scenario.

Let me know if you see any assertions I've made that you think are incorrect. It was trying to be pessimistic but realistic for this analysis. Hence, both STANFORD and UNC jumping OSU with wins. However, I just don't see us falling below 2-loss FSU in any scenario. I didn't try to predict the Rose Bowls selection.

So what did I learn? I don't think even the doomsday scenarios will keep us out of NY6, since the ones that put us on the brink all involve Clemson losing and if Clemson loses that can't help but to keep us above ND and FSU in the rankings. And since I think they will want a southern team in the Peach Bowl I think our odds of Fiesta are much better for us, or if we do go to Peach it would likely be against one of these SEC or ACC teams and not the AAC I think.

Critique (bash) away...

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Besides ours there are really only 3 games and 8 possible combined outcomes that affect our bowl destination should we not win the B1G championship (4 games and 16 outcomes if you count Houston-Temple). Since if we win, we're in playoff, I didn't bother with those 8 possibilities.

In the attached charts, the left side shows the possible outcomes and the right side shows a prediction of the likely Top 4 and NY6 bowl pairings for each outcome. They're numbered to correspond. The rankings of 5-11 aren't necessarily accurate, just trying to indicate which teams would be in that range. Teams colored red are Conf champs with automatic entry to the NY6, green are replacement teams for conferences with bowl contacts, and black is at-large. Teams whose box is highlighted red are the ones left out in that scenario.

Let me know if you see any assertions I've made that you think are incorrect. It was trying to be pessimistic but realistic for this analysis. Hence, both STANFORD and UNC jumping OSU with wins. However, I just don't see us falling below 2-loss FSU in any scenario. I didn't try to predict the Rose Bowls selection.

So what did I learn? I don't think even the doomsday scenarios will keep us out of NY6, since the ones that put us on the brink all involve Clemson losing and if Clemson loses that can't help but to keep us above ND and FSU in the rankings. And since I think they will want a southern team in the Peach Bowl I think our odds of Fiesta are much better for us, or if we do go to Peach it would likely be against one of these SEC or ACC teams and not the AAC I think.

Critique (bash) away...

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The "Image" doesn't actually load... its a broken link :)
 
I got it just fine, lose & it is rose/fiesta, depending on how sexy osu is to the cfp committee
 
The link should work. I'll try from another computer to be sure.

Note that scenario #1 is all the favorites winning, so I guess it's the most likely (except that FPI thinks USC has better than average chance to beat Stanford). Also, I updated the tables to include percentages based on FPI, for lack of a better source. It shows that assuming the Rose selection between us and OSU is 50/50, we have the following chances at each bowl:

Cotton 18%
Orange 18%
Rose 35%
Fiesta 27%
Peach 1%

If you think I should plug in a difference percentage for the OSU/Iowa debate let me know, it's simple to do.

Hope I'm right about these
 
The scenarios that put us closest to the Citrus Bowl brink all involve both UNC and Stanford winning. As long as that doesn't happen we should be safely in NY6. But even if that does happen the committee would really have to stretch to put ND or FSU above us, especially with Clemson being diminished by their loss to UNC. There's no way three ACC (or even 2-1/2) make the NY6
 
I know what you're saying, and what I'm about to say has been said many times, but...
Would you ever have imagined typing that "CFP or bust!" line with a straight face in August?
I know what you're saying, and what I'm about to say has been said many times, but...
Would you ever have imagined typing that "CFP or bust!" line with a straight face in August?

No but I am also far removed from the "fire kirk ferentz" camp
 
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