Contaminated vaccines:

[IACub]

Holy shit, did you guys know they put hydrogen oxide in our water?!?

 

[Joes Place]

Holy shit, did you guys know they put hydrogen oxide in our water?!?

Specifically, di-hydrogen monoxide.....

 

[naturalbornhawk]

Yes, it's been primarily MMR, because the timeframe that the MMR vaccine is given is the same timeframe that autism symptoms start becoming apparent. And it's simply coincidental based upon all of the studies which have looked at it. Correlation is not causation, which is basically what that linked study is also stating - we see something that could be a correlation, and wider experiments are needed to establish if there is a correlation, and then determine if the correlation is also causative.

These appear to be terms that are beyond your comprehension level, based on what you post here.

Once again, the safety studies are short term in nature, no true blank placebos, studies don't look at synergistic effects. What you can reasonably conclude with any of these studies is limited when there are so many variables. You have from the very start, and continue to talk around the actual problem.

And yes correlation does -NOT- not equal causation. Correlation does not NECESSARILY equal causation, or in other words, correlation MAY equal causation. That's why you do the appropriate safety studies to determine whether correlation equals causation. Here the contention is the safety studies are not appropriate, but rather inadequate to make the determination, with any degree of certainty, to rule out a cause.

 

[Joes Place]

Once again, the safety studies are short term in nature, no true blank placebos, studies don't look at synergistic effects. What you can reasonably conclude with any of these studies is limited when there are so many variables. You have from the very start, and continue to talk around the actual problem.

And yes correlation does -NOT- not equal causation. Correlation does not NECESSARILY equal causation, or in other words, correlation MAY equal causation. That's why you do the appropriate safety studies to determine whether correlation equals causation. Here the contention is the safety studies are not appropriate, but rather inadequate to make the determination, with any degree of certainty, to rule out a cause.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

Actually it's your inability to counter the points on the table that are the issue and it has been this entire debate.

 

[Joes Place]

Actually it's your inability to counter the points on the table that are the issue and it has been this entire debate.

You've been slapped silly with 'counterpoints', even citing your own links as not supporting your position.

I cannot fix your 'stupid'; you need to work that out.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

Holy shit, did you guys know they put hydrogen oxide in our water?!?

 

[naturalbornhawk]

You've been slapped silly with 'counterpoints', even citing your own links as not supporting your position.

I cannot fix your 'stupid'; you need to work that out.

And I explained why those 'counterpoints' were invalid. Don't confuse your inability to make a valid counterpoint with actually making a valid counterpoint.

 

[IACub]

Specifically, di-hydrogen monoxide.....

Nerd.

 

[naturalbornhawk]

Yes, it's been primarily MMR, because the timeframe that the MMR vaccine is given is the same timeframe that autism symptoms start becoming apparent. And it's simply coincidental based upon all of the studies which have looked at it. Correlation is not causation, which is basically what that linked study is also stating - we see something that could be a correlation, and wider experiments are needed to establish if there is a correlation, and then determine if the correlation is also causative.

These appear to be terms that are beyond your comprehension level, based on what you post here.

Let me be more specific. Glad you brought up mmr. Since the mmr is administered with several other vaccines, according to the schedule, then I might expect there to be vast amounts of clinical safety studies indicating the synergistic effects of the adjuvants and other ingredients are safe. If such studies exist, then they should have been posted here a long time ago. If these studies do not exist, then why am I being told with any degree of certainty that vaccines are safe?

 

[IACub]

Let me be more specific. Glad you brought up mmr. Since the mmr is administered with several other vaccines, according to the schedule, then I might expect there to be vast amounts of clinical safety studies indicating the synergistic effects of the adjuvants and other ingredients. If such studies exist, then they should have been posted here a long time ago. If these studies do not exist, then why am I being told with certainty that vaccines do not cause autism?

Nearly 100% of people who die from bee stings in the last century have ridden in automobiles. Is anaphylactic shock caused by cars. What isn't Chevrolet telling us?

 

[ferentzin04]

Specifically, di-hydrogen monoxide.....

 

[naturalbornhawk]

Heck there aren't even safety studies on the synergistic effects on the ingredients within the same vaccine, let alone across different vaccines. The placebo in the actual safety studies remove the active ingredient only, and do not remove the adjuvant or any other ingredient, then they compare the two groups for differences. Can anyone tell me what's wrong with that design?

If this is not the case, then post a study that uses a true placebo here.