ADVERTISEMENT

Convince me to vote for Trump

Yeah the context doesn't help that communist stance but thanks for your contribution
You really believe that robo calls spreading misinformation to try and get people to not vote are a protected form of free speech.

The courts have found them guilty of fraud in multiple jurisdictions.
 
There’s no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech, and especially around our democracy.

Ironic that this statement is literally misinformation.

The first amendment protection of free speech does protect so called “hate speech.”

The Supreme Court has specifically ruled on this very topic.

Should he be charged with “misinformation” ? What is the crime? Which jurisdiction?
 
You really believe that robo calls spreading misinformation to try and get people to not vote are a protected form of free speech.

The courts have found them guilty of fraud in multiple jurisdictions.
I don't think robots have any rights period lol
Ironic that this statement is literally misinformation.

The first amendment protection of free speech does protect so called “hate speech.”

The Supreme Court has specifically ruled on this very topic.

Should he be charged with “misinformation” ? What is the crime? Which jurisdiction?
I'm sure he just "misspoke" (again)
 
Ironic that this statement is literally misinformation.

The first amendment protection of free speech does protect so called “hate speech.”

The Supreme Court has specifically ruled on this very topic.

Should he be charged with “misinformation” ? What is the crime? Which jurisdiction?
The context he was referencing is a case of fraud. Fraud is not protected by the first amendment.

I did say in my post that he could've communicated better. He said is correct in that there are limitations to free speech. Hate speech isn't specifically not protected but if that speech incites violence, or threatens people then said speech isn't necessarily protected.

But if we want to play this game let me quote Donald Trump.

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” he wrote.

Donald Trump is on record as being in favor of suspending all rules, regulations, and articles including the Constitution based on some sort of arbitrary conditions that he defined.
 
Last edited:
If we elect Trump now in four years the era of Trump will be over.

This will also give Kamala a chance to earn her nomination vs a capable group of Democrat challengers through the primary system instead of it being gifted to her and the voters having zero say in the process.
If Trump is not elected this year, do you think he will run again in 2028, at 82 years old? 4 more years of mental decline, 4 more years of him saying unhinged shit? I
 
If Trump is not elected this year, do you think he will run again in 2028, at 82 years old? 4 more years of mental decline, 4 more years of him saying unhinged shit? I
Pete Buttigieg made a very salient comment after the convention about the benefit to the country and the republican party with a Harris win. We all can move on from Trumpism and the republicans can regroup to offer reasonable, moderate conservative candidates again. It will be much better for us all to have the republican party jettison their crazies and get back to candidates that want to serve the country rather than their own interests.
 
200w.gif
 
Pete Buttigieg made a very salient comment after the convention about the benefit to the country and the republican party with a Harris win. We all can move on from Trumpism and the republicans can regroup to offer reasonable, moderate conservative candidates again. It will be much better for us all to have the republican party jettison their crazies and get back to candidates that want to serve the country rather than their own interests.

Yep. All of the “moderates” who plug their nose over fears of ‘communism’ do nothing but reward and validate the insane MAGA wing antics
 
  • Like
Reactions: Tom Paris
The context he was referencing is a case of fraud. Fraud is not protected by the first amendment.

I did say in my post that he could've communicated better. He said is correct in that there are limitations to free speech. Hate speech isn't specifically not protected but if that speech incites violence, or threatens people then said speech isn't necessarily protected.

But if we want to play this game let me quote Donald Trump.

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” he wrote.

Donald Trump is on record as being in favor of suspending all rules, regulations, and articles including the Constitution based on some sort of arbitrary conditions that he defined.

Does not compute with right-wing extremists. Not-so phenomenally fantastic could never grasp the concept of fraud being associated with the master fraudster Orange Turd.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Tom Paris
Pete Buttigieg made a very salient comment after the convention about the benefit to the country and the republican party with a Harris win. We all can move on from Trumpism and the republicans can regroup to offer reasonable, moderate conservative candidates again. It will be much better for us all to have the republican party jettison their crazies and get back to candidates that want to serve the country rather than their own interests.
4 years ago I wasn't really too high on Pete. I thought he was a little weasley. But over the last 4 years he has sounded incredibly reasonable about a lot of topics. I've really come around to him.
 
Democrats: Trump will end Democracy!

Also Democrats: Literally ends Democracy.
"Find 11,780 votes" in Georgia. Again, the lack of self awareness in Trump supporters is amazing. Your boy doesn't give a shit about Democracy. He still can't admit he lost in 2020, & if he loses in November it will be rigged again. How this isn't disqualifying to the American public is sad.
 
"Find 11,780 votes" in Georgia. Again, the lack of self awareness in Trump supporters is amazing. Your boy doesn't give a shit about Democracy. He still can't admit he lost in 2020, & if he loses in November it will be rigged again. How this isn't disqualifying to the American public is sad.
Removing polling stations, trying to add special voting IDs, trying to get rid of early/mail in voting, not allowing people to give out water to people waiting in lines at polling stations. You know, things that improve democracy.
 
Despite all the hand-wringing from the left, the country ran pretty good the last time he was president until COVID happened.
If I steel manned your position and agreed with you there is still the problem of his post election behavior, which would have disqualified any other candidate from ever running for office again.
 
Removing polling stations, trying to add special voting IDs, trying to get rid of early/mail in voting, not allowing people to give out water to people waiting in lines at polling stations. You know, things that improve democracy.

Now, now, the party that has won 1 popular vote since 1992 is the majority and would never try and limit who can vote because their ideas are so popular they wouldn't need to do that.
 
Jim alluded to it, and it's the one thing Trump has and still done well. Fear of compliance.

If any old supporter or republican, with minimal support, goes against him, one tweet or post can cancel or end their political, or just, career in an instant. Joe Rogen flipped so fast after one post about him. Also doesn't help that the MAGAs are insane and can cause harm to whomever doesn't support. Snununu is a perfect example.
 
Yes, before the sale. There is also FB and media outlets.

Twitter is the one now owned by Saudi backers with Elon Musk elevating right wing troll accounts and false conspiracy theories, right? Is Facebook the one that allows voter data to pass from Cambridge Analytica to Russia?
 
Yes, before the sale. There is also FB and media outlets.

When you say media outlets, are you talking about the conservative media companies like Sinclair and Gannet that pump out conservative talking points for their local TV news stations? Or by big media outlets, do you mean Fox News?

Could media outlets also refer to the AM talk radio conservative outrage porn? Or by media outlets, the one Trump was paying to catch and kill stories for? Can you clarify?
 
I wish all you lefties would actually learn something that is happening to our great country. 1: It is being overrun by illegals and terrorist. 2: Inflation is through the roof along with interest rates. 3: Kamala is not deserving nor capable of being president. She cant even answer simple questions without laughing and does no press conferences. 4: The world is closer to WWW3 then anytime in history. 5: Democrats are so antisemetic now its causing some democrats to leave the party. 6: Trump will lower inflation, build the wall , Deport illegal immigrants, Make the world a safer place just like the last time he was president. If that doesnt lead you to Trump and the Republican party then there is really no hope for you. God bless Donald Trump and GO Hawks!
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT