Cook leaving
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I'd prefer he come back but you're a fanboy if you don't think he deserves criticism. His effort level came and went. His turnovers were absolute backbreakers. His want to dribble the ball at the top of the key and drive the lane was one of the more frustrating things in my hawkeye viewing lifetime. Why he never lived with his bask to the basket blows my mind. There were a ton of times where we were just flat out better when he wasn't in the game. But when his effort level was up and he was at his best, we are a better team, no doubt about it.
And to cry racism, give me a ****ing break
Going back to my original point... if Tyler Cook were an Iowan, he'd be regarded as an absolute legend. But since he is not, let's just trash him to the point that he will never recommend this program to anyone because of this garbage fanbase.
I also just wanted to make sure that you are aware that Cook would dunk on all your heads at will on your best day.
I am sure Tyler will recommend or not the program based on his experience with coaches and Unuversity over what he hears from the small percentage of "fans" that post on social media.
I also just wanted to make sure that you are aware that Cook would dunk on all your heads at will on your best day.[/QUOTE]
Good to know.
Good to know.
Don't give facts. That doesn't work the moron quoted below.
Those who cry and defend the most usually do so to hide their own affiliation. It is blatantly obvious that you are the one who cannot see anything in terms other than racial, which speaks to your underlying beliefs.
Neither do douchebags, which is why they are considered, no, known to be douchebags. There is a reason you spend so much time on here; nobody in real life can stand you.
You continue to show your true colors.
Still can't see anything without injecting race, which again bellies your underlying beliefs. Go back to NW Iowa Mr. King.
1. Zach McCabe was a complete whiner on the court and beat someone up in downtown IC because of a Twitter comment. He deserved everything he had coming to him. If he were black, he may have been booted from the University for that nonsense. Imagine if DJK attacked a fan after all the insults this sect has hurled at him over the past decade.
2. You have 16,634 posts.
3. That last quote had nothing to do with race. It had to do with him not being from Iowa.
4. Tyler Cook would dunk all over you.
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Some fans actually believe Iowa is an outlier when it comes to criticizing players. Go read the Kansas and Kentucky forums.
Kansas fans were calling Grimes, "Crimes", because it's a crime when he gets playing time.
Players need to realize that when you play d1 football or basketball at a p5 school, you will be criticized by fans.
Kansas fans were calling Grimes, "Crimes", because it's a crime when he gets playing time.
Players need to realize that when you play d1 football or basketball at a p5 school, you will be criticized by fans.
Neither do douchebags, which is why they are considered, no, known to be douchebags. There is a reason you spend so much time on here; nobody in real life can stand you.
LOL that you gave a serious reply to that quote.
Edit since I'm too dumb to figure out how to reply; I was laughing at 'chapdad' giving a serious reply to 'litegreenes' prolific message board quote. Do you have zero sense of humor? Come on fella.
LOL that you gave a serious reply to that quote.
Edit since I'm too dumb to figure out how to reply; I was laughing at 'chapdad' giving a serious reply to 'litegreenes' prolific message board quote. Do you have zero sense of humor? Come on fella.
Not me. He’d get 5 painful tries against me.
Then I’d get disqualified from the game. But he wouldn’t convert a single dunk on me.
The reason Tyler Cook was in a dribble drive position in the first place in lies the issue... lol.. you think if Iowa had capable guard play he’d be up trying to create a mismatch if Iowa had the personnel to do so else where??? He was asked to do this by the coach.. The fact that he was one of the best options for that let us know help is needed there.. That being said, in my opinion Tyler needed another year to just work on the things he was able to do well and improve his D and rebounding efforts but best of luck to him..
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I've got to think some of the rabid criticism is from Kloset Klowns, Cornhoosiers, Gophers etc.
No you said reminds of Jordan? I am assiming you are not talking about Michael Jordan?
I wish Tyler Cook well whatever decision he comes up with. Its his life and he'll have to deal with it, just like everybody. He does seem like a pretty good guy and teammate, kept his nose clean off the court, etc. He should be commended for that if nothing else.
There were certainly times where Iowa looked better without him, so can't say he's going to leave a gaping hole if he's gone. I guess at this point my level of care to what he does is pretty much, whatever.
The early departures from the Football team are far more concerning for me.
There were certainly times where Iowa looked better without him, so can't say he's going to leave a gaping hole if he's gone. I guess at this point my level of care to what he does is pretty much, whatever.
The early departures from the Football team are far more concerning for me.
At least we won't have to watch him do the ole` when an opposing player meets him at the hoop. Worst defender within 3 feet of the basket I've ever seen.
litegreen, your commentary betrays a complete sense of paranoia. You expect to find racism in everything and, unsurprisingly, you do.
Of course TC would be a legend IN IOWA if he attended HS IN IOWA. Race has absolutely nothing to do with it, at least for 99.9% of the basketball fans. Iowa celebrates almost every pro in every sport we produce because, outside of the NFL (and Iowa is clearly a football state), we don't produce many pros. In case you had not noticed, Iowa has a small population.
Have you ever heard the vitriol people still say about white kids from the state of Iowa that fail to meet expectations at the U of Iowa? Ask Todd Berkenpas or Troy Skinner what happens to Iowa HS legends that don't become outstanding players at Iowa. Guys on here were still ripping Troy 20 years after he graduated, which was as much utter bullshit as your continuous repetition that the criticisms of TC's play or lack of popularity is because TC is black.
Your comparison of DJK and Zach McCabe provides a classic example of your fundamentally flawed premise. First, Zach McCabe was another Iowa kid so he enjoys the popularity edge that almost all local kids get from most of the fans (e.g. some Iowa fans are brutal to the disappointing locals). It wasn't a single tweet that set Z Mac off but weeks of twitter ridiculing followed by more taunting when they encountered each other.
Now in my day I learned you don't flip shit at the 6'7" 240 pounder because you might get your ass kicked. The crime was wasting tax dollars prosecuting a college kid for a one punch bar fight. Zach is from Steve King's district. White Catholic from a Catholic school. Go back to the archives and read that absolutely vicious and mindless attacks the fanbase launched at Zach. You picked the best evidence against your paranoid or hateful accusations that Iowans are racists.
DJK is also wildly popular in Iowa. The handful of fans, probably hard ass coaches themselves, that ever had problem with DJK like the absolute lack of nonconformity required in the Iowa football program. But if someone had gone after DJK like the punk that went after Zach I think most Iowa fans would find little problem with DJK administering a one punch lesson in civility and common sense-after his eligibility expired so it had zero impact on the team.
I'd say the fanbase feeling about TC is pretty simple and mine is typical. Loved him as a recruit. Liked him as a player and certainly hope he returns. But I'd like him all the more if he went to my hometown school, or Valley or Dowling rather than some school in St. Louis whose name I do not know and about which I could not care less. I expect the St. Louis fans would feel the same about a player from Des Moines.
It must be comforting to live in a world where every disagreement or criticism can be credited or dismissed based on the race of the target. You don't even have to think about the criticism because its dismissed as mere racist hate speech. Comforting like a six year old's reasons for believing Santa Claus is real.
Of course TC would be a legend IN IOWA if he attended HS IN IOWA. Race has absolutely nothing to do with it, at least for 99.9% of the basketball fans. Iowa celebrates almost every pro in every sport we produce because, outside of the NFL (and Iowa is clearly a football state), we don't produce many pros. In case you had not noticed, Iowa has a small population.
Have you ever heard the vitriol people still say about white kids from the state of Iowa that fail to meet expectations at the U of Iowa? Ask Todd Berkenpas or Troy Skinner what happens to Iowa HS legends that don't become outstanding players at Iowa. Guys on here were still ripping Troy 20 years after he graduated, which was as much utter bullshit as your continuous repetition that the criticisms of TC's play or lack of popularity is because TC is black.
Your comparison of DJK and Zach McCabe provides a classic example of your fundamentally flawed premise. First, Zach McCabe was another Iowa kid so he enjoys the popularity edge that almost all local kids get from most of the fans (e.g. some Iowa fans are brutal to the disappointing locals). It wasn't a single tweet that set Z Mac off but weeks of twitter ridiculing followed by more taunting when they encountered each other.
Now in my day I learned you don't flip shit at the 6'7" 240 pounder because you might get your ass kicked. The crime was wasting tax dollars prosecuting a college kid for a one punch bar fight. Zach is from Steve King's district. White Catholic from a Catholic school. Go back to the archives and read that absolutely vicious and mindless attacks the fanbase launched at Zach. You picked the best evidence against your paranoid or hateful accusations that Iowans are racists.
DJK is also wildly popular in Iowa. The handful of fans, probably hard ass coaches themselves, that ever had problem with DJK like the absolute lack of nonconformity required in the Iowa football program. But if someone had gone after DJK like the punk that went after Zach I think most Iowa fans would find little problem with DJK administering a one punch lesson in civility and common sense-after his eligibility expired so it had zero impact on the team.
I'd say the fanbase feeling about TC is pretty simple and mine is typical. Loved him as a recruit. Liked him as a player and certainly hope he returns. But I'd like him all the more if he went to my hometown school, or Valley or Dowling rather than some school in St. Louis whose name I do not know and about which I could not care less. I expect the St. Louis fans would feel the same about a player from Des Moines.
It must be comforting to live in a world where every disagreement or criticism can be credited or dismissed based on the race of the target. You don't even have to think about the criticism because its dismissed as mere racist hate speech. Comforting like a six year old's reasons for believing Santa Claus is real.
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It didn't happen often, but there were times when he exploded to the basket and no one could stop him, which reminded me of how Michael Jordan did it.
If he played all the time like the way he played the second half of the Tennessee game he could be one of the best players in the big ten. He can take over a game at times.
Scored 11 points in the first 6 minutes of the second half to help get us back in the game
People sure are falling all over themselves for 10 good minutes while there was 100’s of minutes of not so good over the last 1/3rd of the year, including a lot of half-ass effort.
I can’t even respond because this is too ridiculous.
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After many hours of intensive academic study of this thread, I find myself unsure if Cook is leaving or not.
But, but scooter dochterman and Robbie how? Said he was, over a week ago.
LOL
Go Hawks...........!!
I don't understand why anyone, whether they think Tyler Cook is ready to leave or not would speak ill of him or wish anything negative on him.
He represented Iowa extremely well for 3 years. The people that are upset he is leaving, but also say how bad he is make no sense.
Good luck to him and thank you for your work as a Hawk
He represented Iowa extremely well for 3 years. The people that are upset he is leaving, but also say how bad he is make no sense.
Good luck to him and thank you for your work as a Hawk
It sounds like you think I said they were equal, but I didn't. I said there were a few times he broke to the basket like Jordan did. It seems that your confusion is due to your inability to recognize context. You had to have seen the same plays I'm talking about, so your attempt to feign ignorance of those awesome plays is not believable. The best example was that 360 alley-oop dunk. I don't know if I spelled that right. Actually, all of the plays I'm thinking of might have been in the same game. I only remember them because the game was recent.
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No, I understood the context. When someone says "what is Player X game like", they use a famous player to compare them to so that everyone understands. When someone says Garza's game is "like" Jack Sikma's, most people understand that they are not saying Garza is as good as an NBA All-Star at this point. Just that his style is reminiscent in how he plays.
However, you saying that Cook's explosiveness reminds you of Jordan (as in Top 3 player of all-time Michael Jordan and widely considered among the absolute best all-time finishers/dunkers), you are implying that Cook exhibits some of these same things as a player at a level like Jordan. I saw every minute of every game this season and never once did I think anything that Cook did was Jordan-like. That is why I was questioning.
Well just so you know, I personally consider Michael Jordan the absolute best basketball player of all time (no doubt), so yeah, I would never make the claim that Cook is his equal. Players have various areas of assets: awareness, defense, shooting accuracy, clutch-time performance, strength, agility, and on and on. There were two plays in particular in which Cook recognized that there was an opportunity to make it to the basket, but only if he was explosively quick, so then he instantly went full-speed to the basket, and it wasn't possible to stop him. So he was near-invincible on those plays, and also on that 360 in-bounds dunk. But he's been inconsistent. If he could play at a high level like that often, he could be great. But he needs to improve his free throw accuracy.
My take is he's leaving. Doc and Howe figured it out (is he still going to classes and what is he telling friends and family) and put it out there before Tyler was ready to tweet it himself, leaving Tyler butt-hurt that he got scooped.
I would be shocked if Doc jumped the gun and has it all wrong. He's generally pretty professional.
IMO- Tyler can make it in the league as a Clint Capela type player. I think a short stint in Europe to further develop skills away from the basket wouldn't hurt. Hope the right NBA situation presents itself at some point and he at least gets an opportunity. Would be great for him and our program.
Drama Queen. Just like every time he laid on the floor this year hurt after some bonehead play.
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