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We are on the cusp. Literally right there knocking on the door. I believe we just need more big wins. Espeically when we are showcased on ESPN and CBS. And continue to make the tourney. And these kids will get it and start coming here.
The more we are in the face of college basketball, the more likely we land these kids.
I was hoping we could land a PG like Moore as well, but I think some people are forgetting how irrelevant Iowa basketball was even 3 or 4 years ago on the national scene. We still have a ways to go, but I think Fran has it going in the right direction. We will start landing some of the big fish if we continue to build every year. Let's start with landing Cook!
This. After Lick left, I thought we were at least 10 years away from being relevant. Fran, IMO, it way ahead of schedule and doing a good job. Those were some dark times. We were drawing like 4K people. It was really, really bad.
From the sound of things from people in the know...you might very well be correct...today was a good day for Iowa BB & even better in the days to come.
If Cook would commit to Fran and the Hawks, look out. Fran has brought in some great shooters, athletic wings and now with several go to guys down low, look out. If teams pack down low to stop someone like cook, OT could be bombs away outside.
I personally like the Bohannon commit. He's a really, really good shooter. All indications a solid pass also.
I personally like the Bohannon commit. He's a really, really good shooter. All indications a solid pass also.
He's the type of player who will do precisely what's needed to win. I picture him as a fine pass-distribute PG who can shoot from the outside a bit better than Gesell. Not as athletic, but with all the athletes around him all he has to do is maintain control and make good decisions.
indications from people in the know...seems things may have been going on in the Moore camp (that Iowa doesn't entertain)...maybe one of his official school visits can be of better help.
and yes landing Cook will be great.
You only get good by competing against the best. If Cook wants to reach his peak look at the competition in the BIG.
2015 class top 50 Bigs:
• Stone, Bryant, Swanigan, Davis, Giddings and Wagner
2015 class top 50
• Funderburk and Ward
Alot of top flight Bigs to compete against.
2015 class top 50 Bigs:
• Stone, Bryant, Swanigan, Davis, Giddings and Wagner
2015 class top 50
• Funderburk and Ward
Alot of top flight Bigs to compete against.
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I hate to say it, but this long into Fran's tenure, it's kind of sad that he is bringing in mid major recruiting classes consisting of non-elite Iowa boys when the rest of the conference is loading up. Fran absolutely needs to land a difference maker who can create his own shot with his last scholly. Preferably somebody that a school other than UNI wanted.
I hate to say it Iowalaw, but this long into your tenure of posting, it's kind of sad, that all you do is whine and complain. You absolutely have to be the antiHawk because I have never seen you post anything positive about anything. I wonder if you're perfect, my guess is probably not.
I was taught if you don't have something good to say, then say nothing!
I was taught if you don't have something good to say, then say nothing!
With the athletes that we currently have and will be bringing in, I think a PG who isn't uber-quick like Moore isn't a necessity. It would've been nice for sure, but if we can get Cook, and with the wings we have, that will more than compensate for a lack of quickness at PG
LOL where the hell did this come from?
I know nothing and I realize we just got a player from there, but I've seen on Illini boards in the past that they're pretty suspicious of the Mac Irvin Fire AAU club coaches. Nothing in particular, other than just having favorites when pushing a kid to a school and maybe some other shady stuff with it.
That was just my first thought when I saw the whole Moore thing go down.
Shady stuff in Chicago basketball definitely nothing new, and it probably ain't going away. Fran needs to keep making connections, keep finishing in the top half of the B1G, and we will get more Chicago recruits.
Really? 10 years to turn the program around? Those are some very low expectations.
And yet you are an Iowa fan. LOL. When is our NC coming? I know you are expecting one because you demand excellence. LMFAO
Nothing like constantly insulting posters that make a valid point. In basketball, programs can/are turned around in short periods of time as one only needs a couple top flight recruits to turn things around. It has happened many times over in college basketball. However, you have to hire the right coach and not the Licklosers of the world.
While I don't agree with him, the cool thing about a message board is the differing opinions.
Lick was probably the worst coach in Iowa history. Fran took over at the programs lowest point and every single year iowa has gotten better under Fran. It has been rocky at times but there is no doubt iowa made a good hire in getting fran here. He can really coach.
Fran's coaching leaves a little to be desired, but he knows talent and can recruit well. The coaching will come along with experience in the BIG 10. Its not like you only have to coach your team. You have to coach your team, your team with certain refs, your team in certain venues, etc........but Fran is getting it done. The hardest thin in this league is to make it your first 4 to 5 years. The league is gauntlet with some powerhouse coaches.
At this point I would say Fran's coaching is way above his recruiting.
Really? I think the opposite. We are getting some of the best players we have since the late 80s. And its only going to get better the more we reestablish the brand.
Fran's wins/losses in his first five years (Big Ten record 42-48) is only one win off of John Beilein after five seasons. 43-47.
It would take three season's of 12-6 Big Ten records to be even with Beilein's eight year record of 78-66. .542%
Lute Olson's Big Ten wining percentage for nine seasons? .562. 91-71. His first five years? 46-44.
Just some numbers.
It would take three season's of 12-6 Big Ten records to be even with Beilein's eight year record of 78-66. .542%
Lute Olson's Big Ten wining percentage for nine seasons? .562. 91-71. His first five years? 46-44.
Just some numbers.
Some of the best players since the late 1980's? I hate to tell you, but both Raveling and Alford signed higher rated recruits (better players) than Fran has brought on board during his tenure. MG and Woody are the only highly rated recruits (4 star or better) that Fran has signed. Fran is a very good coach at developing players and coaching strategies, but his lack of real recruiting success has been a head scratcher, imo.
Sounds like some folks in Missouri are not particularly confident in landing him. They also feel Iowa maybe the leader at this point. Hopefully Fran can lock him down in late September early October.
It's true that both Raveling and Alford signed higher rated recruits but remember Raveling had a recent final four experience and Olson's success to sell and Alford had Davis' success to sell. Fran had Alford's and Lickliter (two of the worst coaches in the history of IA basketball IMO) to sell.
Fran is a very solid recruiter, salesman, spokesman, and in-game coach IMO. I really like what is going on right now with IA hoops. I honestly couldn't/wouldn't say this during the Alford and Lickliter years. I emphasize the word honestly.
I agree with Skydog, none of the aforementioned coaches inherited a program that was in as much disarray than when Fran took over. I know it is disappointed to not bring in some of the top tier recruits, but we are getting some pretty good ones. As far as getting kids that only UNI wants, based on their accomplishments in their conference and NCAA tournament, we could do worse!!
Wasn't UNI nationally ranked all season this season? Haven't they been to the Sweet 16 since last the BIH appearance in the Sweet 16? Since Alford brought program cancer to our school haven't the Panthers had a winning record against Iowa?
Put the McC results in this context. Lute inherited a bad team. But the program had two B1G titles in the previous 8 seasons, one an undefeated in conference and a regional final appearance. Although Lick's last recruiting class was pretty good there was almost no returning talent and the program had become a toxic laughing stalk.
There were times last season that I questioned my Hawkeye faith. No longer. It just cannot be said that Fran hasn't brought B1G athletes to the program because we won 12 conference games last year, 9 the year before. We've had too many games with big leads against good programs. McC is bringing in good players.
Put the McC results in this context. Lute inherited a bad team. But the program had two B1G titles in the previous 8 seasons, one an undefeated in conference and a regional final appearance. Although Lick's last recruiting class was pretty good there was almost no returning talent and the program had become a toxic laughing stalk.
There were times last season that I questioned my Hawkeye faith. No longer. It just cannot be said that Fran hasn't brought B1G athletes to the program because we won 12 conference games last year, 9 the year before. We've had too many games with big leads against good programs. McC is bringing in good players.
