Covid and Flu Shots linked to strokes

[KFsdisciple]

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• A study backed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has detected a slightly increased risk of stroke in older adults who received COVID-19 bivalent vaccines and influenza vaccines together.
• The analysis was based on administrative files of more than 5.3M Medicare beneficiaries aged 65 years and older who received influenza vaccines and COVID-19 bivalent shots developed by Pfizer (NYSE:PFE)/ BioNTech (NASDAQ:BNTX), and Moderna (NASDAQ:MRNA) from August 31 to November 6, 2022.
• The investigators found no elevated stroke risk in the study group after they received only bivalent COVID shots.
• However, the concomitant use of bivalent shots and high-dose/adjuvanted flu shots led to an increased risk of non-hemorrhagic stroke (NHS) and transient ischemic attack (TIA), the researchers wrote in their study findings ahead of peer review.
• FDA authorized flu vaccine makers include: CSL Limited (OTCQX:CSLLY) (OTCQX:CMXHF), GSK (NYSE:GSK), Sanofi (SNY) (OTCPK:SNYNF) (GCVRZ), and AstraZeneca (AZN) (OTCPK:AZNCF)

 

[Urohawk]

sign me up!

• A study backed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has detected a slightly increased risk of stroke in older adults who received COVID-19 bivalent vaccines and influenza vaccines together.
• The analysis was based on administrative files of more than 5.3M Medicare beneficiaries aged 65 years and older who received influenza vaccines and COVID-19 bivalent shots developed by Pfizer (NYSE:PFE)/ BioNTech (NASDAQ:BNTX), and Moderna (NASDAQ:MRNA) from August 31 to November 6, 2022.
• The investigators found no elevated stroke risk in the study group after they received only bivalent COVID shots.
• However, the concomitant use of bivalent shots and high-dose/adjuvanted flu shots led to an increased risk of non-hemorrhagic stroke (NHS) and transient ischemic attack (TIA), the researchers wrote in their study findings ahead of peer review.
• FDA authorized flu vaccine makers include: CSL Limited (OTCQX:CSLLY) (OTCQX:CMXHF), GSK (NYSE:GSK), Sanofi (SNY) (OTCPK:SNYNF) (GCVRZ), and AstraZeneca (AZN) (OTCPK:AZNCF)

Now do covid itself and flu itself.....

 

[hawkeye54545]

In

 

[kwik44]

Where's Joe's Place??

Immediately!

 

[Flie]

CDC and FDA Identify Preliminary COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Signal for Persons Aged 65 Years and Older​

Although the totality of the data currently suggests that it is very unlikely that the signal in VSD represents a true clinical risk, we believe it is important to share this information with the public, as we have in the past, when one of our safety monitoring systems detects a signal. CDC and FDA will continue to evaluate additional data from these and other vaccine safety systems.

“The absolute risk is miniscule,” said Dr. Steve Nissen, a cardiologist and researcher at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio. “I mean it is trivial in comparison to the risk for people over 85 of dying from COVID.”

At least five other recent studies — many launched to try to tease out this link, have not found any additional risk of stroke after vaccination for COVID-19, influenza or both.

“Available data do not provide clear and consistent evidence of a safety problem for ischemic stroke with bivalent mRNA COVID-19 vaccines when given alone or given simultaneously with influenza vaccines,” said Dr. Tom Shimabukuro, director of the Immunization Safety Office at the CDC in a public presentation of the data on Wednesday to the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices.

 

[noleclone2]

Lol at the OPs link not being a real article and not actually linking to the study, just giving their interpretation of study.

 

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[Hawki97]

I must be the strongest most hardened mutha phucka on HORT. All these studies the likes of @KFsdisciple brings up - I’ve had a lot of the shots and I’m good. Absolutely nothin’. Soz about all you study boys being a bunch of pussies I guess.

 

[lucas80]

KF's posting indicates a history of catastrophic strokes.

 

[KFsdisciple]

KF's posting indicates a history of catastrophic strokes.

It would have been so much worse with the vaccine... am I doing this right?

 

[goldmom]

I got my flu shot yesterday.
My doc told me two freakin years ago to maybe get it separate from any covid booster.
Apparently I’m not doomed.

 

[noleclone2]

I got my flu shot yesterday.
My doc told me two freakin years ago to maybe get it separate from any covid booster.
Apparently I’m not doomed.

Well I got both of mine together two weeks ago and I have had zero issues and cjsnshshsgdhsjajshsytyshsbbbbnjsksjskiuhbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb

 

[DFSNOLE]

Lol at the OPs link not being a real article and not actually linking to the study, just giving their interpretation of study.

Much like the news he seeks and consumes, truth and accuracy are not essential elements to telling the story.

 

[jawatkins]

I haven’t stroked it once since I got the shots.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

I got my covid shots.
Last summer when I tested positive for covid, I missed one day of work.
My brother in law didn't get any covid shots.
When he got covid, he died.

 

[torbee]

Literally the only sentence in this entire asinine discussion that matters:

“The absolute risk is miniscule,” said Dr. Steve Nissen, a cardiologist and researcher at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio. “I mean it is trivial in comparison to the risk for people over 85 of dying from COVID.”

 

[jawatkins]

I got my covid shots.
Last summer when I tested positive for covid, I missed one day of work.
My brother in law didn't get any covid shots.
When he got covid, he died.

That dude is a bummer, man.

But seriously that sucks. I hope everybody takes a real look at things does the right thing for their health and for their loved ones.

 

[KFsdisciple]

I got my covid shots.
Last summer when I tested positive for covid, I missed one day of work.
My brother in law didn't get any covid shots.
When he got covid, he died.

What else was wrong with your brother before he died?

 

[jawatkins]

What else was wrong with your brother before he died?

Needed new tires on his 2007 Honda.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

What else was wrong with your brother before he died?

My brother died of liver cancer.
My brother in law died of covid. He had part of his colon removed approximately 20 years ago. Otherwise, he was rarely sick.

 

[goldmom]

I got my covid shots.
Last summer when I tested positive for covid, I missed one day of work.
My brother in law didn't get any covid shots.
When he got covid, he died.

I’m sincerely very very sorry to hear that. It was such a random thing - people you thought were/looked healthy would get it and have a sniffle and the next person would die.
I hope we don’t see a bounceback.

 

[PackerHawkeye1]

Literally the only sentence in this entire asinine discussion that matters:

“The absolute risk is miniscule,” said Dr. Steve Nissen, a cardiologist and researcher at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio. “I mean it is trivial in comparison to the risk for people over 85 of dying from COVID.”

This is the usual case for these fear inducing risk headlines. When presented as a percentage increase it seems far worse than comparing absolute risk differences. Worse the variability of the estimates is often overlooked in reporting.

 

[torbee]

This is the usual case for these fear inducing risk headlines. When presented as a percentage increase it seems far worse than comparing absolute risk differences. Worse the variability of the estimates is often overlooked in reporting.

It's like refusing to cross a busy street to get away from a bear about to attack you because you might get hit by a car.

Sure, that could happen. But the bear is a clear and present danger.

 

[bdcolt45er]

It's like refusing to cross a busy street to get away from a bear about to attack you because you might get hit by a car.

Sure, that could happen. But the bear is a clear and present danger.

I could fight a bear.

 

[goldmom]

I could fight a bear.

Yeah okay.
I’m taking the bear in this one.

 

[jawatkins]

I could fight a bear.

Is that some kind of a gay nightclub thing?

 

[Tom Paris]

It would have been so much worse with the vaccine... am I doing this right?

No. No you’re not.

 

[torbee]

Yeah okay.
I’m taking the bear in this one.

Me too!

 

[bdcolt45er]

Yeah okay.
I’m taking the bear in this one.

I've been lifting weights for about 5 weeks I think I'll be fine.

 

[torbee]

What else was wrong with your brother before he died?

Ooh, Ooh, I can answer that one!

He didn't listen to sound medical advice from professionals.

 

[KFsdisciple]

Ooh, Ooh, I can answer that one!

He didn't listen to sound medical advice from professionals.

Ahhh yes the "experts"... people like the fake ass lying media? Those experts?

 

[torbee]

Ahhh yes the "experts"... people like the fake ass lying media? Those experts?

My doctor told me to get a Covid 19 vaccine.

So I did.

And when I got Covid I was better within 3 days. Pleased I listened to my doc.

 

[KFsdisciple]

My doctor told me to get a Covid 19 vaccine.

So I did.

And when I got Covid I was better within 3 days. Pleased I listened to my doc.

I didn't take the poison, also got covid and was fine in about 3 days... what's your point?

 

[torbee]

I didn't take the poison, also got covid and was fine in about 3 days... what's your point?

That you're a broken record.

And dumb.

 

[CLUB215]

sign me up!

• A study backed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has detected a slightly increased risk of stroke in older adults who received COVID-19 bivalent vaccines and influenza vaccines together.
• The analysis was based on administrative files of more than 5.3M Medicare beneficiaries aged 65 years and older who received influenza vaccines and COVID-19 bivalent shots developed by Pfizer (NYSE:PFE)/ BioNTech (NASDAQ:BNTX), and Moderna (NASDAQ:MRNA) from August 31 to November 6, 2022.
• The investigators found no elevated stroke risk in the study group after they received only bivalent COVID shots.
• However, the concomitant use of bivalent shots and high-dose/adjuvanted flu shots led to an increased risk of non-hemorrhagic stroke (NHS) and transient ischemic attack (TIA), the researchers wrote in their study findings ahead of peer review.
• FDA authorized flu vaccine makers include: CSL Limited (OTCQX:CSLLY) (OTCQX:CMXHF), GSK (NYSE:GSK), Sanofi (SNY) (OTCPK:SNYNF) (GCVRZ), and AstraZeneca (AZN) (OTCPK:AZNCF)

Lol man you're terrified of a little needle and constantly remind us.

 

[jonesy5960]

I’m sincerely very very sorry to hear that. It was such a random thing - people you thought were/looked healthy would get it and have a sniffle and the next person would die.
I hope we don’t see a bounceback.

Genetics have by all accounts played a massive role in the progression of infections.

 

[jonesy5960]

Ahhh yes the "experts"... people like the fake ass lying media? Those experts?

No. People like the vast majority of medical professionals and epidemiologists. Why would any sane person listen to anyone else?

 

[jawatkins]

Lol man you're terrified of a little needle and constantly remind us.

Hey now I got the shot and I’ve got the white coat syndrome. They were cutting on my foot one day and the next thing I know there’s 5 people in the room putting an ice bag on my neck, checking my blood pressure and trying to get me to talk, guess I went out like a light. So I don’t watch when the scalpel comes out anymore.

 

[CLUB215]

Hey now I got the shot and I’ve got the white coat syndrome. They were cutting on my foot one day and the next thing I know there’s 5 people in the room putting an ice bag on my neck, checking my blood pressure and trying to get me to talk, guess I went out like a light. So I don’t watch when the scalpel comes out anymore.

I thought white coat syndrome is when your BP is elevated in the Dr office.

 

[jawatkins]

I thought white coat syndrome is when your BP is elevated in the Dr office.

it is, mine goes crazy there. I give keep my numbers at home and give those to the doctor