Wow, you made a lot of inferences there. Incorrectly, I might add.
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No, @HawkeyePA's point includes also being arrogant, liberal, and from State College. So remove the mask or any of the aforementioned, and one is no longer necessarily one of those kinds of jagoffs. Not to worry; there are many more kinds of jagoffs available to PA residents.
No, that's not true. People talk about sports , and it goes beyond win or lose. They like the topic.
It's easy for him to just briefly say he wasn't physically well enough to perform at a competitive level. The. People will still talk of course, but who cares?
Your "take" is just your prejudice old timer, and I'm guessing it's one of many. Comparing all those old Hawkeye stars to SL and the modern times is apples to oranges. Is it time for your evening pills?
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And many available to IA residents as well. People can be arrogant, liberal OR conservative, and from Iowa City. It's big messy world out there. HOWEVER, hating on SL is just another PA homer prejudice because he jilted them. Never met a fan base so toxic as PSU wrestling fans. Great wrestling teams. Toxic fans.
a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result.
Read that definition a few times and mull it over. He never made any excuses but plenty of people here are upset that people talk about it and don't automatically sing his praises.
Plenty here wanted to tslk about him as the GOAT. Sanderson won more matches by a tech fall or pin (116) than Lee wrestled.
People get excited and get crazy over hype. Others respond and disagree . Like I said PSU had four wrestlers with better careers then Lee and I'm not talking about two time Hodge winner David Taylor.
And when people criticized them I didn't give a crap.
I get it. You’re still salty Spencer rejected Carl and you had to deal with dog water 125 pounders the last 5 years. Just do it somewhere else.
No, just ignorant. You probably spent more time researching steak marinates than looking into COVID origins and the why.
You know MAGAmoron, since you claim to be a Hawkeye fan you must know that when Spencer came to Iowa, one of his stated goals was to bring an NCAA championship to IC.
He did that. Without Spencer there would never have been a championship. No way. He made Iowa relevant again.
And the really sad thing is, that he might have ruined his international future by trying to bring home a couple more.
So what thanks does he get from a wanker like you? Nothing but shade and slander.
By the way, those videos I put up for you earlier in this thread clearly showed that before his knees got torn up, SL had no problem at all going seven minutes. Kind of trashes a big part of your narrative doesn't it? Moron.
I don't disagree with you on some of this stuff, but I don't think it was just about the money. I bought quite a few of those 6 dollar tickets, and you're right about it being a blah product. I think it probably had more to do with going outside the program for some fresh blood. The money obviously helps. I mean every serious program in the country is all about raising money, and new facilities.
You're also correct about getting some moron fans that come with the winning. I think that just goes with the territory.
It's not completely relevant, but I remember going to an NC State match, and there were less fans than most of the High School matches I had been to. The fans there were die hards. Fast forward to a few years ago and Reynolds was sold out. I sat next to some people who probably didn't even know there was a program before Pat Pop. I've just tried to remind myself that new eyes on the sport has to be a good thing in the long run.
In this case phrase. People talk about sports , fans more than anyone hyped Lee. Opposing fans joined the discussion and people disagree.
It's a simple concept many people here can't grasp because they want not only Lee to be great , but everyone has to agree m.
It's not going to happen. Your guy isn't the best ever, he's very good. Better than most by evidence of 3 championships and 4 AAa.
Why that isn't enough and why simple disagreements irritate some so much is beyond me. But if you're a sports fans your team or guy isn't going to win them all.
you certainly would make a great example of a Jagoff... maybe even You Identify as Karen ?? I could give 2 shits less what you think because the wearing of a mask is less than 3% effective and its well documented that 99% of the people that wear them by themselves in automobiles are douche bags.
I have always said to the mask Nazis out there, if you really believe masks are effective, then why are you threatened by the next person not wearing one. The response is always a look of complete confoundment or an immediate emotional outburst. Neither are good looks.
If you remember back to the days of Shop class, you recall the kind of masks that were worn by guys in wood, metal, and autobody shop. They weren't those cloth masks or paper mask that you seen so many wearing incorrectly.
Because even some of the potheads in those classes understood that the particles that they might breathe in were a certain size, and they had to use some serious equipment to make sure they didn't inhale them.
Much more effective masks than the type people wore in public for a virus even though they were worried about much larger particles.
What are you, a Jedi? Do you think you can trick all the Stormtroopers by waving your hand and spouting BS? Everything you said was a lie, including your Username. You made that up to make the Lefties think that that's what people with those political leanings believe, and so conservatives would read your drivel. You are one of the fastest to reach ignore for me, and that's saying something.
I didn't have time to read many posts after yours, but I'm sure you have been similarly called out by many reasonable posters on this thread, but I had to throw in my .02. I would say good day, sir, but you do not even deserve that for that post.
Wrong.
The team matters immensely. Just the mere fact you hang out here constantly as do other than Iowa fans and get digs whenever you can proves team matters.
Circumstances. Publicly naming him the GOAT was done for what reason? Motivation, raising his mental state? Spencer and the coaching staff knew where he was physically and psychologically and I have no doubt where trying to push him across the finish line. Something never done at Iowa.
Excuses are for wusses. Okay, did Spencer give any excuses or whine about anything after his loss? Bad narrative by you, so what if he made money off the phrase. NIL.
As far as you saying he forfeited out of Nationals while being physically able to compete. Who are you to make that statement? The only reason you make that comment is you are anonymous on a message board. Some have spoken to Spencer and his father and don't make the assumption you made after talking to them.
Spencer had publicity because of who he was, where he was from, the injuries he had, and vile Penn State fans. You posed a coulda, shoulda, woulda statement not facts. I refuted your opine.
It is not human nature to smirk at anyone no matter the situation. Once again, you smirk anonymously and claim,"I'm only doing what anyone would do." People call you out and hurl insults at you because they get tired of what you call factual opinions.
All I can say is someday maybe you will grow a pair and tell Tom, Terry, Spencer, Larry, or any of us on this board straight to our faces.
Iowa was never irrelevant. Their average finish since 2010 is about three. The lowest was five one time, and were two national titles in the total the majority of their finishes were third and fourth, so I would not say they were irrelevant prior to the arrival.
Of course I'm counting their success with him but still they were doing quite well before he got there.
What are you talking about? Know who you are replying to as I am a devout Christian and resent that comment Worked in the area of sports my whole life and have never been wound tight about sports as a fan or coach.
Happen to be around Coe College enough to speak with Larry. Great guy, father, husband. It's the crowd you post with that makes sports more than a hobbie, not me.
Edit to add, how many posts and replys do you have to just this thread? I would say you take wrestling and yourself way more serious than you care to admit.
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Between 2010 and 2017, the Hawkeyes won 1 Big Ten and 0 NCAA championships. You can define the word for yourself however you want. But in terms of Iowa's expectations for the program, that record is irrelevant.
He didnt reject CS. Suriano committed. Without that happening hed of been a lion.
Do you know how the internet and web browsers work and how long it takes to type a few sentences?
That experiment worked out great for you guys.
Iowa's expectations are probably unrealistic , however I would say finishing an average of 3 in the last 14,15 years is very good. Expecting another dynasty in this current age probably is unrealistic. It's similar to any other team in the years 1975-2010. Iowa didn't win in 77 , 87-89, 94, 01 -07. To expect that now is a pipe dream IMO
They've won 2 national championships since 2010, I think finished 5th once, 2nd twice and 3rd and 4th 4x each. That's extremely good. OSU is the only other team to win a national title in that time other than Iowa and PSU. They'll continue to battle and for the foreseeable future they will be in the mix.
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Well it’s official, you don’t know anything. Or you’re someone that Spencer rolled up and threw out in the first period and are still bitter about it. Either way, give your ass a break it has to be tired from talking so much.
