D Line Must be really good -

[Herkey Ohio]

The D line must be really good -

Has anybody heard how Llewellyn and Bowie are doing?
I was pretty high on them when they were recruited but have not heard much about them.
Any Updates?

48Max Llewellyn

5.7

6'5" | 230 LBS | WDE​

2021

URBANDALE

URBANDALE, IA

DL 6-5 243 #Fr. Urbandale, IA Urbandale



86Jeff Bowie

5.6​

6'5" | 242 LBH

WEST BRANCH, IA

DL 6-5 270 #Fr. West Branch, IA West Branch

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

We are are stacked on the DL…so barring a run of injuries [knock-on-wood emoji] we most likely won’t hear/see much from them until next spring.

 

[pistachio1999]

Time for Waggoner to really shine.

 

[nbanflfactory]

They're only rs fr....

 

[RomanHawk]

Time for Waggoner to really shine.

Don't mean to knock him, but I'm surprised how solidly he is entrenched in the lineup compared to the contribution he seems to make. Am I missing something?

 

[coorsoriginal02]

Don't mean to knock him, but I'm surprised how solidly he is entrenched in the lineup compared to the contribution he seems to make. Am I missing something?

The staff's loyalty to seniority is at play here.

 

[OILCHECKER]

Don't mean to knock him, but I'm surprised how solidly he is entrenched in the lineup compared to the contribution he seems to make. Am I missing something?

Yes, you are missing something

 

[RomanHawk]

The staff's loyalty to seniority is at play here.

Agree, but I think inertia and favoritism get mistaken for loyalty. The biggest test of KF loyalty was in the Doyle situation and I saw none.

 

[nbanflfactory]

Agree, but I think inertia and favoritism get mistaken for loyalty. The biggest test of KF loyalty was in the Doyle situation and I saw none.

He had no choice in modern America...

 

[pocha444444]

Don't mean to knock him, but I'm surprised how solidly he is entrenched in the lineup compared to the contribution he seems to make. Am I missing something?

I'm a big fan of Hurkett, hopefully he can push him. It's possible he would have passed him up last year had he not had the injury.

 

[pistachio1999]

The staff's loyalty to seniority is at play here.

You dare question Phil Parker?

 

[Hawkeye Marching Band]

Yes, you are missing something

JW is indeed a solid lineman, but I think he'd be better at tackle. His remaining at DE likely means we have more guys ready to play on the inside than on the outside.

 

[BBHawk]

Thank god we have some posters set the coaches straight when they pick who the starters are. Loyalty, favoritism, seniority, modern America ( whatever that is🤣) listed as reasons why decisions are made. No mention of staff evaluation after many, many hours of practice and game film.

Maybe the staff knows more than you do?

Nah!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😍

 

[SLarew]

JW is a solid player. I would say his fundamentals are very good and he doesn’t make many mistakes. Maybe he doesn’t have stars but there is a reason KB and PP keep him in lineup and it’s Not seniority or favortism

 

[BBHawk]

JW is a solid player. I would say his fundamentals are very good and he doesn’t make many mistakes. Maybe he doesn’t have stars but there is a reason KB and PP keep him in lineup and it’s Not seniority or favortism

Wags was a 4-star recruit with great offers - MI, OH State, OR, UCLA, OK, and FL to name a few. His commitment was a recruiting coup.

 

[pocha444444]

JW is indeed a solid lineman, but I think he'd be better at tackle. His remaining at DE likely means we have more guys ready to play on the inside than on the outside.

He's only listed at 267 lbs but that's probably 20 lbs more than Matt Neubauer weighed when he played inside.

 

[Auger]

Waggoner is a space eater and holds the line. Iowa likes their DL to hold the trenches like a viking shield wall where nothing gets past and they slowly crush you. They then have a couple beserkers that smash through the opposing line and destroy the backfield.

 

[coorsoriginal02]

You dare question Phil Parker?

Nah, not really. In Phil we trust.

 

[BurgHawk87]

Waggoner is a space eater and holds the line. Iowa likes their DL to hold the trenches like a viking shield wall where nothing gets past and they slowly crush you. They then have a couple beserkers that smash through the opposing line and destroy the backfield.

Sometimes the best d tackles have little to show in their stat lines. I'd take a guy who can eat up double teams and not allow anyone to get second level over someone who knifes in for the occasional sack but also gets pancaked in the run game.

 

[BBHawk]

Sometimes the best d tackles have little to show in their stat lines. I'd take a guy who can eat up double teams and not allow anyone to get second level over someone who knifes in for the occasional sack but also gets pancaked in the run game.

Wags is a DE, not a tackle. He might slide inside once in a while but he really knows how to hold the edge and direct traffic inside where the tackles can swallow up the runner. That or collapse the pocket.

 

[nbanflfactory]

Thank god we have some posters set the coaches straight when they pick who the starters are. Loyalty, favoritism, seniority, modern America ( whatever that is🤣) listed as reasons why decisions are made. No mention of staff evaluation after many, many hours of practice and game film.

Maybe the staff knows more than you do?

Nah!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😍

clearly you are just hating because coors doesn't brew his own beer!


-----if you can't figure out my comment about "modern america" and the doyle situation, then I probably can't help you there

 

[nbanflfactory]

Sometimes the best d tackles have little to show in their stat lines. I'd take a guy who can eat up double teams and not allow anyone to get second level over someone who knifes in for the occasional sack but also gets pancaked in the run game.

bruh, stats are all that matters, don't you know????

 

[BBHawk]

clearly you are just hating because coors doesn't brew his own beer!


-----if you can't figure out my comment about "modern america" and the doyle situation, then I probably can't help you there

What's that got to do with Waggoner?

 

[nbanflfactory]

What's that got to do with Waggoner?

It was a reply to post 8. Stay on topic of the off topic please sir. Thanks sir

 

[BurgHawk87]

Wags is a DE, not a tackle. He might slide inside once in a while but he really knows how to hold the edge and direct traffic inside where the tackles can swallow up the runner. That or collapse the pocket.

Well shit. Started a little too early on my beer consumption today.

 

[ZachJump]

Maybe the staff knows more than you do?

They only know more than me when I am sober.

 

[BBHawk]

Well shit. Started a little too early on my beer consumption today.

No sweat. Can't drink because of the medication I am on for another week. ☹️

 

[bulletproof90]

While deep, I don't think we know yet that the D-line is gonna be really good.

Don't mean to be a Debbie downer, but just don't think it really holds a candle to, for example, a line that had Clayborn, Daniels, Klug, Ballard, and Binns.

 

[RatTailGuy]

Thank god we have some posters set the coaches straight when they pick who the starters are. Loyalty, favoritism, seniority, modern America ( whatever that is🤣) listed as reasons why decisions are made. No mention of staff evaluation after many, many hours of practice and game film.

Maybe the staff knows more than you do?

Nah!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😍

That’s total Bullshit the board internet knows alllllllll

 

[Ladell-hawk]

While deep, I don't think we know yet that the D-line is gonna be really good.

Don't mean to be a Debbie downer, but just don't think it really holds a candle to, for example, a line that had Clayborn, Daniels, Klug, Ballard, and Binns.

You make a good point. We have a lot of good players and depth on the DL, but for this to be a great D-line a couple guys will need to take their game to a higher level. I think there are several guys capable of doing so. Go Hawks !

 

[SI_NYC]

Don't mean to knock him, but I'm surprised how solidly he is entrenched in the lineup compared to the contribution he seems to make. Am I missing something?

I’d guess he controls his gap well allowing the LBs to make plays. Vital to a defense but it won’t grab the casual fan’s attention.

 

[dbrocket]

Agree, but I think inertia and favoritism get mistaken for loyalty. The biggest test of KF loyalty was in the Doyle situation and I saw none.

Because he was treating Black players like shit. That's the definition of "addition by subtraction."

 

[pistachio1999]

Who will be the best running backs they will face this season?

 

[BBHawk]

Who will be the best running backs they will face this season?

Off the top of my head I'd say the 3 best running offenses Iowa will face is OH State, WI, and MI. Not sure which will be best because they all have offensive lines that have new starters but all 3 are in reload mode so they will probably be good.

 

[Birky]

Who will be the best running backs they will face this season?

Ibrihim is allegedly full strength, and whoever the fvck OSU has will be great.

 

[GarryO37]

The staff's loyalty to seniority is at play here.

This tracks being that he’s been getting playing time for years.

 

[paednoch23]

Ibrihim is allegedly full strength, and whoever the fvck OSU has will be great.

Ibrahim has zero breakaway speed. A power runner but he is never gonna take it to the house. 99% of his highlights are short runs for TDs. The Illini linebacker runs him down in one of these.

 

[Birky]

Ibrahim has zero breakaway speed. A power runner but he is never gonna take it to the house. 99% of his highlights are short runs for TDs. The Illini linebacker runs him down in one of these.

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Turns out he is trash.

 

[Frosty7130]

The staff's loyalty to seniority is at play here.

Yeah, it's not like a RSFR led the team in sacks last season or anything lmao

 

[HungryHawk]

Who will be the best running backs they will face this season?

Braelon Allen is pretty damn good. Already getting comparisons to Ron Dayne.