Dave Wannstedt says he has heard ISU and Kansas to Big Ten
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Exactly. Exactly the reason ESPN was prodding the AAC to poach Big 12 schools, and probably exactly the reason FOX is/will prod the Big 12 to poach AAC schools. Why push the Irate 8 into P4 conferences and pay a premium when they can push them toward a G5/6 conference and broadcast the same teams for 1/4 the cost? The answer is it's not in the TV companies best interest to push the remaining 8 schools towards a major college football conference.
And when that doesn't happen will never hear or see from you again. Big10 is not adding KU and ISU who both are historically the worst fball programs in the nation. Not going to happen. It's not about fit, it's a business and that means money. Big10 schools will not sign up to lose money for 2 schools that bring nothing to the table. Believe Wannesttedt or Miller if you want, but if that's your sources I would backoff your confidence. Have fun in the AAC
The irony of what some Clone fans post in regards to what they have to offer is quite entertaining.
In MBB... it's "we had a few bad seasons but the history of the program is very strong.
In football... even though we have been bad for decades, we've turned the corner recently.
Say what you need to justify what you have to offer the B1G. Even if both claims are true, either you're offering a successful past or a upswing currently. I don't think it's a good argument to make.
And if the Irate8 survives to collect those checks from Texas and OU, hard to see why schools wanting to make the jump to P5 would risk joining a conference that likely doesn't exist beyond 2025 at the most?
In MBB... it's "we had a few bad seasons but the history of the program is very strong.
In football... even though we have been bad for decades, we've turned the corner recently.
Say what you need to justify what you have to offer the B1G. Even if both claims are true, either you're offering a successful past or a upswing currently. I don't think it's a good argument to make.
And if the Irate8 survives to collect those checks from Texas and OU, hard to see why schools wanting to make the jump to P5 would risk joining a conference that likely doesn't exist beyond 2025 at the most?
Very good point. Clearly ISU is a top 15 program now. Why can't they be the flagship of the B12 and carry everyone else on their back. I hear they're a top 10 team this year and a valid NC contender. What do they need the B1G for?
Now that I think about it, why is the B1G waiting....I'd hate to see them lose out on such a huge opportunity.
/sarcasm
If the B1G flubs this up and doesn't invite this rising superpower immediately, does Iowa start negotiating to join the Big 12 instead? How can we sit idly by while the Big 12 grows national title contenders so well?
I mean we do have the Bowlsby in right, so Iowa could easily jump to the Big 12. No probs. Some CF loser is gonna read this and jump back over there and say over on HR they are posting they want in the Big 12!
Well the PAC 12 commish said yesterday they'd let their intentions be known shortly if they are looking to expand or not. Figure would be before the start of the season and if any conference would add a team would be them out of the 3. If they say no we are good for now basically will prove what Wannstadt said was just some garbage rumor. Even the ISU beat writer for the Gazette was on 1600am yesterday and they brought up his statement and he even said just sounds like another rumor and hasn't heard a thing from anyone else backing it up and if anything would question why the PAC 12 would not try and take a Texas team.
JFC, Iowa State fans are desperate for validation.
Do a lot of Iowa fans go to their board for attention? Serious question.
Do a lot of Iowa fans go to their board for attention? Serious question.
I would love to have all that past data, but it isn't available in a ready to use form. And I can only get it back to 2012 from my source. Maybe I'll capture the data before it goes away and figure out how to more quickly analyze it. Unfortunately the names for schools are inconsistent and they typically list games not schools, so it takes some effort to separate that out and clean it up before you can use database or spreadsheet tools on it. And to make matters worse, each year may use a different format.
It's been quite a while since games haven't been available on TV.
Viewer ratings are not just a measure of your own team and how good they are in a particular season They are highly influenced by the opponent and what network they are on, as well as other games they are up against. One Iowa-Iowa State games on FS1 in the past for example had terrible ratings. Only 567K viewers. There's no way to prove it, but I would guess if it were on one of the major stations the numbers would have been far better just from being on a more visible channel. Ohio State is the team that surprises me how substantial their viewer numbers have been. It would be interesting to see how long that has been the case.
Eventually Iowa will just be absorbed by ISU’s immense gravity.
Here's some data to analyze, ESPN told the B12 they don't want you without OU and UT. No new deal negotiations. That's a trending turd.
I don't know why ISU is limiting themselves to the B1G, seems like they should be in serious discussions with the SEC to set up a potential bidding war to lure their rising program. They probably were slated to go with OU/Texas when this all kicked off but thought they'd push for a bigger share in the SEC.
JFC every time one of you posts I remember why I'd like nothing more than to see ISU become a G5 program.
JFC every time one of you posts I remember why I'd like nothing more than to see ISU become a G5 program.
I’m a boomer..... look I appreciate you taking the time to try and find the data.... I tried too and ran into the same thing but I’m guessing you know your way around the internet more than I do
Truth is I don’t give a shit about that data..... I know what the answer is and it’s not even close who has historically had higher tv ratings..,,, larger crowds and generated considerably more revenue...
you can point to that OSU game last year all you want..... and you probably should latch onto whatever you can to feel relevant
I watch a lot of college football and like I stated if I’m not watching a good game ...., I’ll tune into the Clowns games to root for their opponents and in the past a lot of their games weren’t even televised..... I suppose the advent of all the fox regional channels has helped to get them televised somewhere most of the time these days and I guess I’ve heard something about a Cyclone network? I assumed that was an attempt to address the otherwise lack of coverages for Cyclone sports
According to some ISU fans, Pollard is examining all the offers from the other P5 conferences that are bidding for them to join, and will take the best one.
Dave..................Dave.......................who are those Big Ten people you say were at Fox in Arizona when you were there? Pretty easy question to ask him right???? We know it was not the University Presidents, so who the hell was it? The BTN people is that what he meant to say?
Rumor has it they already turned them down. They were the first choice over OU and Texas but Pollard wanted to be the bear of the Big 12 still.
As we've discussed already on this board, not in 2020. ISU averaged nearly a million more viewers per game than Iowa.
So you are using data during a pandemic year where the hawks didn’t play all of its games and started 8 weeks later? I wonder if those type of things had anything to do with the cyclones getting more viewers?
What if we do a sample size of let’s say 10 years or 20 years, how does ISU fare? They teach sample size at ISU, right?
You never win arguments with lil bros. Nothing is rational.
It may have helped Iowa State get more viewers, but it doesn't explain why Iowa's average numbers were not very good.
This one needs to go on every page in this thread. What were we talking about again?
They're here!
This is so f-ing lame, but its what we expect from you. Like I said like dog poop stuck to our collective shoe.
It may have helped or it did help? So if it did then you would have to think these numbers you are using from a shortened pandemic year are pretty skewed as well? I wonder if these higher ups have thought about this?
Also, let’s talk about sample size. Let’s take this data back 10 years and compare or let’s check the revenue of each university the past decade and compare. Waitttttt, we shouldn’t do that since it doesn’t fit ISU fans narrative!! Stupid me for bringing common sense to the cyclones dishonest argument on expansion and their university.
May have helped?
Iowa is in a Power conference and Iowa State is not. Doesn't matter how many times you post anything.
Did you ever respond to which team was in the lowest rated Big 12 championship game by a large margin?
In response I’ve asked multiple times. What were the number like in 19’, 18’ or the previous 5-10 years? Funny never a response. I wonder why???
