Man, some of you on here are out of line. Can’t we wait for the verdict until you hang them?
Davenport coach alleges racist comments by basketball refs
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Reference to wdmValley vs North BB game a couple of years ago…..rephuquin’lax partner! Seriously!
Much easier to ruin someone’s reputation making yourself look like some sort of hero online than wait for the facts to play out before crapping on someone.
It's the all 3 of them part that doesn't make sense.
His son said that or something similar to me multiple times. I could be wrong about how long he coached for his dad. Thought it was several years.
Are officials somehow more moral than non officials? There is racism everywhere, especially in rural Iowa. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if this 100% true.
That little speech before games regarding sportsmanship.
Where the high school AD can remove fans for shouting at refs.
I've seen fans removed from gyms.
Racists everywhere! I don’t know how anyone, other than white people, can tolerate living in this state.
Yea. I don’t like when people are lumped together. In my opinion, it’s much more likely that one ref said something, and he just accused all three of doing it. Could be wrong though.
That’s totally on the local school to remove fans. Not the association.
How many fans have you seen removed? How many fans at the game, after the game, on message boards are criticizing officials?
Because black and diverse means urban. You should have stuck with the economics of the school
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Uh no. It’s urban because it’s in the city. Like I said, just because there aren’t a lot of big buildings doesn’t mean it’s not urban. The school is literally on 53rd Street which is one of the main commercial corridors of the entire Quad Cities.
Urban I guess but that word generates a picture in people's head that isn't accurate. It is closer to Eldridge than downtown Davenport. Elkridge I guess is urban as well if urban means any city or town.
Davenport North is on the very edge, it is diverse, and it is very poor. Nothing about it look urban. It looks like a small town high school. Like I said you should have stuck with diverse and economically challenged. Urban gives the same stereotypical image of poor black and brown people and it isn't accurate. Poor people live in the country too. It's ok
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You are wrong on every level. That’s fine. Davenport North is an urban school, full stop. Ask anyone who works in education around here.
I’ve experienced a lot of this. The re-segregation over the last 40+ years has, naturally, reinvigorated racist, or racist-style stuff. I brought it to the attention of my AD, he looked at me like I was crazy, then he, himself, witnessed some stuff and realized the problem I was describing was, in fact, real.
There is zero doubt this is true. Empowered racist attitudes because if the ability to otherize people. Some of that goes away when people actually live and work with people of other races.
It's funny because I have traveled and lived all over the world. Every country and culture otherizes within their society. It doesn't take much. Race in this country is an easy separation and segregation that makes it possible. Most other countries don't have the racial demographics we do bit make no mistake they behave in the same way on other identifiers.
I didn’t say that at all. How often do you think it occurs in a highly public setting that not 1 but 3 white men directly called a black man the n-word where others in the vicinity would hear it?
For all I know, they certainly could have but that seems far fetched. Which lead to my gripe of doxxing them publicly instead of going through the appropriate channels.
A lot wrong in this post too Mitch. But I’ll just mention that in Iowa we’re not paid by the association unless it’s postseason. We’re paid by the schools and compared to other states, we’re paid pretty well.
There is a lot in this thread Mitch does not understand
There is zero chance…ZERO, that three refs of varying years of experience all took it upon themselves to use the N-word towards a coach and a team without the coach going bonkers immediately, telling everyone there it happened and the place becoming a complete fire ball. ZERO chance that happened. None. GTFO of here with that stupid shit.
A KKK ref went 48 years without ever saying it and decided in his 5th decade of officiating to let that be the time he slings the N word at a coach and players.
Idiots.
A KKK ref went 48 years without ever saying it and decided in his 5th decade of officiating to let that be the time he slings the N word at a coach and players.
Idiots.
The alleged behavior did not take place in rural Iowa, fwiw.
One thing Mitch is correct about...there's a lot of incompetent officials...some of it might have been Covid fallout.
And as I said, USSSA, AAU, and club sports refs get paid more for the time involved.
There is also a lot of incompetent fans.
Are you saying officiating is better in the club circuit?
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Well then they are as dumb as you are. It’s in the city. Feel free to look up its SES compared to NS and PV.
There are horrible refs in AAU ball.
I am saying that since the club circuit refs are paid better, more good officials are headed that direction.
Nope...around DM/Ames/CR, officiating is pretty damn good.
Club basketball officials are about $25/game last I knew and they usually ref 8-12 games/day. Each game is about an hour or a little less. So call it $250 for a 10 hour day. Varsity DH pays $120-$150 for a 3 1/2 hour night (add 2 hours for travel if you wish). Money is better for the time at the varsity level.
Youth football is good money. $50/game for likely 4 games so $200 on a Sunday afternoon. But you're also dealing with terrible football so it's a give and take.
This topic has veered off the path of the OP but your info just isn't right. Also, money really isn't a big factor for low ref numbers, at least in Iowa. It's a factor but there's much bigger ones out there - notably, no one wants to travel to BFE on a Tuesday night; just the reality of living in a rural state.
I’ve experienced officials at the HS, college and AAU/grassroots levels over the past 25 years… not just in Iowa but all across the country. In my experience most college officials are pretty good. There’s some very good HS officials, but far more are inexperienced or just not very good. AAU has some good HS/college officials at some events, but most have crews who might be good that mail it in to get the games over with so they can get to the next one. Guys are calling 8-12 games in a day. Frustrating to players, coaches and parents to experience.
I can pretty much guarantee you that the same club officials are doing high school
Does the IHSAA pay the officials? I coached softball for 29 years. The checks written to our officials were from the school. At tournament time, the girls union assigned our officials and paid them.
