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Daviyon Nixon

If a player gets buried on the depth chart in college, it's because he isn't good enough to play. If a player is not good enough to play in college, then he isn't good enough to play in the pros. There are few exceptions to this rule.

That's absolutely not true and one of the dumbest things I've heard, and I hang out on HROT. Being low on the depth chart is one reason why kids transfer. We've had a couple of QB's recently leave and have been successful at other colleges.
 
He said he is "taking visits" which is a violation of a verbal commitment per our antiquated coaching staff's policy. He's gone either by his own choice or by KF archaic policy about taking visits.
you know this is a fact? how do you know that he has not discussed this with the coaches? you don't, so lets just leave it at that.
 
Clayborn and King are listed as DE.
I assume you meant Klug and not King, since King is a CB. Klug and Clayborn are listed as DE indeed but isn't that considered under the heading of DL? I believe what is being discussed is the number of defensive lineman the Hawks have in the league. Wouldn't this include both DE and DT?

Klug DE
Clayborn DE
Davis DT
Johnson DT
Daniels DT
 
So this kids Dad was shopping for offers under the table so the IWCC Staff wouldn't find out, and share the info with Iowa? If they sent Bama his highlight video, it seems like they had already decided that Iowa was not the place for him.
Where was this said or rumored to have happened?
 
I assume you meant Klug and not King, since King is a CB. Klug and Clayborn are listed as DE indeed but isn't that considered under the heading of DL? I believe what is being discussed is the number of defensive lineman the Hawks have in the league. Wouldn't this include both DE and DT?

Klug DE
Clayborn DE
Davis DT
Johnson DT
Daniels DT
My bad, meant Clayborn and Klug. I guess I thought we were talking specifically about Nixon and the DT position. My point was Iowa does not put as many DTs in the NFL as Alabama. But Iowa really needs Nixon to stay committed.
 
Dear Kirk:
It might be a good idea to start winning the games you should
Signed,
DN
You know, this is a real issue with today's kids. Have a bad season and some kids can turn the other way and look elsewhere. It's just a different world we live in today. Kids changing schools like I change my lunch plans.
 
So he made the right decision then?

I think he would be in a similar position with any of the three schools. If you're good enough to start at Alabama, you're probably good enough to start at Stanford or Iowa. The only thing one might say is he gets to practice against the best and is surrounded by other extremely talented players. You could say that to an extent with Stanford and to a lesser extent with Iowa.

But I think what you want me to say is this - since the OUTCOME is good for him, he must have made the right DECISION. I personally don't think the outcome tells you whether your decision was a good one or not in general, but yeah, in this specific case, I guess his outcome is ok?
 
My bad, meant Clayborn and Klug. I guess I thought we were talking specifically about Nixon and the DT position. My point was Iowa does not put as many DTs in the NFL as Alabama. But Iowa really needs Nixon to stay committed.

Totally agree with you on that one. And the fact that the Hawks need this kid to stay committed. Can't fault him if he decides to go for greener pastures. Hopefully he stays committed to us though.
 
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He said he is "taking visits" which is a violation of a verbal commitment per our antiquated coaching staff's policy. He's gone either by his own choice or by KF archaic policy about taking visits.
This statement would be correct. Unless........>Somehow there is a clause committed before he went to JC. However, I find this highly doubtful, so he is probably gone if he visits Bama via Kirk's commitment policy.
 
This statement would be correct. Unless........>Somehow there is a clause committed before he went to JC. However, I find this highly doubtful, so he is probably gone if he visits Bama via Kirk's commitment policy.

I thought the policy essentially said if the athlete was upfront about the visits, it generally is not a problem. Although if they visit, we will still look around as well. People keep acting like the Eno thing is the norm, but the back story on that made it obvious that it wasn't a normal situation because of the coaches not being upfront with KF and such.
 
I thought the policy essentially said if the athlete was upfront about the visits, it generally is not a problem. Although if they visit, we will still look around as well. People keep acting like the Eno thing is the norm, but the back story on that made it obvious that it wasn't a normal situation because of the coaches not being upfront with KF and such.

Can't take official visits when committed. I think they have allowed unofficials maybe?
 
I assume you meant Klug and not King, since King is a CB. Klug and Clayborn are listed as DE indeed but isn't that considered under the heading of DL? I believe what is being discussed is the number of defensive lineman the Hawks have in the league. Wouldn't this include both DE and DT?

Klug DE
Clayborn DE
Davis DT
Johnson DT
Daniels DT
there was also a King on the DL if I am not mistaken along side Klug who was a DT not a DE.
 
This reminds me of what I said about the Ross P situation:

1) Of his three choices, Alabama, Stanford, and Iowa, only one of them was absolutely the wrong choice, and it happens to be the one he made (Alabama)
2) I say that because it is the one with the most competition to play (I still believe this is correct)
3) I also say that because it is the worst academically and the odds of making the NFL or any pro football job are slim

Well, that's all water under the bridge now as he made the choice and he's a starter with (probably) an NFL future. Sigh...
Isn't he a starter on the number 1 team in the country and isn't he projected as a day 2 draft pick? Seems like he did ok?? Bummed the Badgers never moved on Nixon. But with his transcript he would have needed multiple years in JUCO to get in and he is to talented to play two in JUCO.
 
I hope that he makes the right decision. Hopefully that is staying with the Hawks. He did sign an LOI and I am wondering if he would have to sit out if he went elsewhere? I am a bit clueless when it comes to this stuff. Whatever he decides, I hope it works out for him.
 
Agree, he has a equal chance of playing in the NFL from Bama or Iowa. Now what school does he have the most chance of winning conference and national championships ?
True, but the same could be said for every recruit in the country. Thats why they capped the schollies at 85. Yes teams find creative ways to get around this a little, but their limited. My point was, that he may be one of several DL they offer, and pretty much all of them will be higher ranked. Not to mention the 5 stars they already have who can't get off the bench. Just sayin......
 
If a player gets buried on the depth chart in college, it's because he isn't good enough to play. If a player is not good enough to play in college, then he isn't good enough to play in the pros. There are few exceptions to this rule.
As you said there are some exceptions. Matt Cassell NEVER started a game in college at QB for USC, and went on to have a pretty successful NFL career. I'm sure Bama could put some guys in the league who weren't starters. Heck Iowa has had several tight ends end up getting a shot in the league who weren't regular starters. HKC was a shared starter for part of his senior year, Eric Jensen bounced around the league for a couple of years, and he had limited starts at Iowa.
 
The plan has been for him to enroll at semester is my understanding. What is the time frame on when he would have to say "I'm going here."..tia
 
His dad screamed out loud when heard about the Bama offer.

He says he'll probably visit them.

He surely is gone.
 
DN sure seems like he'll be the next Ross Piersbacher. Unfortunate, but Iowa football will continue, such as it is, with DN or without him.
 
DN sure seems like he'll be the next Ross Piersbacher. Unfortunate, but Iowa football will continue, such as it is, with DN or without him.
And fortunately we have Shannon, and Lindy coming in. Still hope Nixon joins the hawks though. Could be very solid on the DL for the next several years.
 
DN sure seems like he'll be the next Ross Piersbacher. Unfortunate, but Iowa football will continue, such as it is, with DN or without him.

This makes no sense. Who said Hawkeye football would cease to continue without him? Think before you post.
 
You know, this is a real issue with today's kids. Have a bad season and some kids can turn the other way and look elsewhere. It's just a different world we live in today. Kids changing schools like I change my lunch plans.

I get what you're saying, and I hope he stays with Iowa. But some times trends can't be ignored.
2009 BCS bowl
2010 pre-season ranked - then tanked (and lost star recruits)
2011 worse than 2010
2012 worse than 2011

2015 BCS bowl
2016 pre-season ranked - then tanked (and lost star recruits)
2017 worse than 2016
2018 ????????

The pattern is simple to explain. He cares about results when his seat is warm.
 
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I get what you're saying, and I hope he stays with Iowa. But some times trends can't be ignored.
2009 BCS bowl
2010 pre-season ranked - then tanked (and lost star recruits)
2011 worse than 2010
2012 worse than 2011

2015 BCS bowl
2016 pre-season ranked - then tanked (and lost star recruits)
2017 worse than 2016
2018 ????????

The pattern is simple to explain. He cares about results when his seat is warm.
Buying season tickets next year forsure
 
Isn't he a starter on the number 1 team in the country and isn't he projected as a day 2 draft pick? Seems like he did ok?? Bummed the Badgers never moved on Nixon. But with his transcript he would have needed multiple years in JUCO to get in and he is to talented to play two in JUCO.

Ross started his second year at Bama and held the spot. He is projected a late first round or early second round pick.

He made a great choice, but I have a feeling his draft status would not have changed if he was a Hawkeye.
 
My bad, meant Clayborn and Klug. I guess I thought we were talking specifically about Nixon and the DT position. My point was Iowa does not put as many DTs in the NFL as Alabama. But Iowa really needs Nixon to stay committed.

So does Alabama have 10 players specifically at DT in the NFL, or are you talking out both sides of your mouth?
 
I believe he just missed being eligible. As long as his grades are in order after this semester at JC, he's good to transfer for the spring semester.
Then I haven't been paying attention to changes in rules. Used to be if a HS player didn't qualify, and went to a JC, he would have to spend two years there and graduate to be eligible to play the next two in college. . That was a combo of test scores and grades in HS. Maybe his "missing" was grades only. Or as I said, rules do change.
 
wh
Sooo northern Illinois?
I was talking about Iowa having been involved with him for a long time, and bama talking to him for the first time on Tues. .The Hawks took a chance on him when no other power 5 conf. teams did, with the exception of Purdue. Hope that makes a difference with him.
 
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Went back and double checked. Iowa has 4 DL in the NFL. Not sure where you get 5. That's not close. Anything else you want to be wrong about? And if you are going to count Iowa's long snapper count Alabama's long snapper.
I met Iowa's long snapper & then fiancé in Ft C. He was saying that he was trying out for the Broncos but used to play for the Hawks.

I was flying back to DM the weekend of the Iowa-ISU night game. Finally I threw it out there about tickets. He was polite & told me he hasn't even made the Broncos team yet. I told him I could care less about the NFL, looking for free Cy-Hawk tix. We 3 laughed & all understood how important Hawk games/tickets are nation wide.

I know it's a lame story but there were around 10 Bronco fans there & they thought we were all 3 crazy!
 
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