Agreed - wrestling someone who you have become familiar with there style daily in practice can make for odd scores
Day 2 wrestle offs
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There are some sweet matchups tomorrow. I'm almost tempted to get up at 5 am and drive 4.5 hours to watch.
First off Warner is a beast but I have never been impressed with Holloway. Can't wait till tommorrow for Cash vs. Warner.
Stickly putting a beat down on Perez made me feel better about 125 IF Lee does not go this year. What I would give for Murnin or Happel to get to 133. Turk will be fine guys just tough beating a guy that is that good and wrestle on a daily basis. Sorensen is still 2nd best at 149, Greer. What till tomorrow and you all see Kem. Hopefully the Bull is good to go soon. Young & Gunther will be the best match of the day. PDIII is gonna be fun to watch. Wilcke will win the spot and AA. Stollhouse will win easily and outside of Snyder he beats everybody!
Stickly putting a beat down on Perez made me feel better about 125 IF Lee does not go this year. What I would give for Murnin or Happel to get to 133. Turk will be fine guys just tough beating a guy that is that good and wrestle on a daily basis. Sorensen is still 2nd best at 149, Greer. What till tomorrow and you all see Kem. Hopefully the Bull is good to go soon. Young & Gunther will be the best match of the day. PDIII is gonna be fun to watch. Wilcke will win the spot and AA. Stollhouse will win easily and outside of Snyder he beats everybody!
Yeah surely one of the 3 - some talent in that crew for sure.
At some point he's gotta say "**** it! What do I have to lose?"
I will take a wild guess and say 200
200 was close to my eyes also. Seen a few wrestlers taking pictures of the crowd. Might be a few tweets
I was always thinking that Lee would take a RS to prepare for the next Olympics. And be on the Team this season. With the injury hanging out there .... it might be OBE - so he takes it this season.
Wait this Warner kid is good? Huh who’d thunk it?
You must have missed the post yesterday where someone said that if warner struggled he wasn’t who we thought he was. So you n the simplest terms, yeah I might have been joking
Go through doors, turn left, take elevator to 2, exit and turn right to the wall and turn left
He’s just plain too big for 141. Not happening so everyone can stop fantasizing.
OK great size master - can any of the 141 guys make it to 133?
Not fantasizing - just don't know what the deal is - guys often wrestle up on redshirt years
It's early in the day, but my brain can't think of recent examples of ranked or highly touted wrestlers (i.e. - disciplined) on RS wrestling up on their off year and then dropping back down. I'm sure there are those that do it, but it must be a small minority that do so. I remember when Joseph of PSU missed two tourneys his RS year when he couldn't maintain 157 at weigh ins because that is the weight where his coach wanted him to be. Kids don't get to decide what they want to do when on RS, and why would any good coach want their wrestler getting used to one weight and size when they won't be at that weight next year?
Edit to add that Joseph moved to 165 later his RS year and was at 165 last year, but the point was that he proved that he was no longer a 157. That is different that choosing to wrestle 165 because you don't feel like cutting during your RS year. Wrestling is all about discipline. You can't take time off from self-discipline if you want to be a champion.
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McD wrestled 133 his RS year and was a career 125
As I said, I'm sure there are examples out there, but I don't think it's a good idea for the reasons stated. I don't think it helps the wrestler in the long run.
You're going to see one of your highly touted recruits wrestling up this year and back down next, so It's refreshing to know they're lacking self discipline and coaching out in HV.
If you are going to make a monumental cut for the team, like Murin to 133 would be, wrestling your true freshman year up a weight has nothing to do with lack of self-discipline. It is just smart. You take this year as a chance to focus on wrestling and you start planning the decent in the off-season.
I guess we'll agree to disagree then. Wrestling at a higher weight as a redshirt for no good purpose is not an optimum recipe for success in my book. In fact, if you take the long view, I can't think of any good reason to yo-yo like that. If you can't maintain the weight or don't expect to wrestle at the lower weight when off redshirt, then that's one thing, but to do it to make your redshirt year a little easier is another.
Of course It helps him. Allows the RS wrestler to eat appropriately to get stronger with more muscle mass. Still has plenty of time to get his body acclimated to a lower weight. Pure body chemistry.
I think you're confused as to who's in line with your thinking. That, or you accidentally quoted the wrong person....
Quoted wrong person. This is not a very hard concept to understand and if one of his PSU boys was doing it he would be banging the drum about how Cael wants his kid to have fun and focus on wrestling his redshirt year.
You won't ever find a fandom post from me. My comments weren't exclusive to Iowa.
I think Berge up at 157 is good for verk at 149 this open circuit season. They see enough of each other in practice, meeting in open tourneys all the time isn't optimal in my view.
Plus Berge wrestled up much of the time in his HS career and it served him well.
Good plan and we should see him against MJo this weekend at the Princeton open.
I thought he missed weight at 157 a few times and that’s why he went up to 165
My 2 cents of potentially faulty memory are that he missed 149 at the first event, and people were like "Whoa." Then, later in the season, he missed 157 and people were like "WTF?!" That's when rumblings about discipline and whether he was going to stay in the program started to crop up.
EDIT: And what added confusion and fuel to the fire (for fans not in-the-know) was that after missing 149 at the first event, he withdrew instead of just going 157 that day. Not sure who's decision it was, but some inferred it was a firm consequence for missing weight.
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thanks for turning yet another Hawkeye wrestling thread into a topical discussion of ****ing Penn State.
Kaleb Young is from Punxsutawney so maybe he could be "The Groundhog". Extend the animal theme to 174.
