They'll go to school when it is "less dark" on days further from the winter solstice.
Daylight Savings Time
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I'm with you on the first part, because of the way our work schedules work, I need the energy in the morning more than I need it in the afternoon/evening.
No because when it hits summer we don't need the sun to come up at 5 in the morning.
I think we could argue about the timing on the calender of the time changes but I see the time changes for those of us in the north as necessary.
I can’t imagine what traveling to Europe must be like for people who have trouble adjusting on and off DST.
Its really not a big deal either way….i think inmay have one clock to set anymore.
Im usually up by 5am regardless. I am usually trying to get to bed by 9- so i dont care for the light as late on the back end of the day,
Speaking of the sun coming up, i dont know how many of you still use an alarm clock instead of your phone…..but keep your phone out of the bedroom at night and get yourself a sunrise clock. The gradual dark red to bright yellowish hue is an ideal way to wake up vs the beeping or ringing of an alarm. Plus you get better sleep if youre not scrolling on your phone before you fall asleep.
High schoolers 14 and up drive themselves too. I'd rather have those drivers driving when it's light out.
Can you drive by yourself at 14? When I was that age, there were farm permits which allowed farm kids to drive to school and home at 14 and 15. My father wouldn't allow me or my siblings to have one, but I had friends that used them. Town kids were jealous.
Yep. School permits if you live a certain distance or farther from the school. My son had one when he was 14.
someone can correct me if im wrong, but they can get school permits to go to and from school and school activities and they cant have any passengers
I believe in Iowa that is still the case, except siblings are allowed as passengers. And the "school activity" part means a lot of things, like of course sports practices (early morning or night), 4-H, FFA, dances, going to athletic events, going to the school to work out etc. it is supposed to be the most direct route, but many abuse that.
I don't have a problem with putting my phone down to go to sleep, can't say the same thing for my wife. But I will say having something which gently increases the light in the room until the alarm goes off intrigues me as a gentler way of waking up.
I may look into that one.
I read this that you do have a problem putting your wife down to go to sleep and I approve that message.
Mine starts with a dark red glow 20 mins before my alarm time. Gradually turns to oranges colors to yellowish hues.
I typically am awake before it goes off so i will just lay there until i see the red glow.
There has been one time when i woke up at its full brightness and it was 4 minutes past what i set my alarm for. Still more pleasant than a ring, buzz or beep.
A lot of times I'm awake before my alarm but this morning I was dead asleep and dreaming when it went off.
I live on the western edge of Central time zone. Sunrise today was ~8:15. School day starts at 8:00. With he later time change, our kids are already walking to school in the dark. Changing to permanent DST would mean sunrise would hit somewhere around the start of 3rd period.
Now, walking to school in small town Nebraska in the dark is kinda just a way of life, I did it as a grade schooler. Permanent DST would mean that those on the Eastern edge of the time zone would get to share in the experience. I'd really question how well that would work in places like Chicago.
Florida agreed with you for a period of time at one point and switched to permanent DST. Might check to see how long it lasted and why the switched back.
In my day, it snowed starting right about Halloween and there was snow on the ground from then until March. We walked in the dark a mile or so to and from school every day and we liked it. We didn't have your fancy down coats and your Pategonia vests, none of the fancy LL Bean boots. We put sandwich bags over our shoes and we trudged through the snow with no cell phones, no nice bus rides.
And they walk to the bus in the dark anyways. See my subsequent post regarding sunrise time of 7:48am on December 10.
For FAR FEWER DAYS, in case that point wasn't clear for you...
they just need to set the clocks between the two and leave it. I don’t feel like it’s beneficial one way or the other anymore. In the summer it’s bright out when I get up and sometimes bright when I head to bed. In the winter it’s dark when I drive to work and dark when I get home.
Someone should get ahold of the sun and let it know to be out a little more in the winter and a little less in the summer.
Someone should get ahold of the sun and let it know to be out a little more in the winter and a little less in the summer.
It's not the sun's fault, we need to straighten the earth on its axis a bit.
The actual solution is to change the length of an hour throughout the year.
In December, the hours between 6pm and 6pm should be 50 minutes long, and from 6pm to 6am the hours should be 70 minutes long. So the sun would rise at 7am and set at 8pm; it's just that those hours would fly by quickly. In June you would reverse this, so the sun would still rise at 7am and set at 8pm; but those hours would take a long time. Make incremental adjustments in March and September.
Problem solved.
In December, the hours between 6pm and 6pm should be 50 minutes long, and from 6pm to 6am the hours should be 70 minutes long. So the sun would rise at 7am and set at 8pm; it's just that those hours would fly by quickly. In June you would reverse this, so the sun would still rise at 7am and set at 8pm; but those hours would take a long time. Make incremental adjustments in March and September.
Problem solved.
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Just had to fix some DST related problems in a code base because somebody forgot the CST to UCT offset changes from -6 to -5 during DST.
It's just another thing for liberals to complain about. They are always looking for something to bitch about.
When is Iowa going to get rid of this crap already.
Nothing like driving into work in the dark again and damn near having a deer run out in front of me just so it can still be bright out at 7:30 tonight.
If Iowa isn’t going to get rid of it, why don’t they wait until like mid April when it can be a bit brighter in the morning and it’s warmer out in the evening? Most years in Iowa it’s still chilly out this time of the year and you can’t do much outside anyway.
Nothing like driving into work in the dark again and damn near having a deer run out in front of me just so it can still be bright out at 7:30 tonight.
If Iowa isn’t going to get rid of it, why don’t they wait until like mid April when it can be a bit brighter in the morning and it’s warmer out in the evening? Most years in Iowa it’s still chilly out this time of the year and you can’t do much outside anyway.
That would be my view on the time change. Don't scrap the whole idea of the time change but the time change needs to occur a month later in the spring and a month earlier in the fall.
Zero impact on my life. I don't even realize it happens anymore with the way technology works.
while I'm on your side of the arguement, that statement is completely false. I drive by tons of kids walking to school every day in Cedar Rapids.
